Way Green Bay is looking right now proves Rogers is shot

[Adoni Beast]

5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Parcells wants mentally tough qbs and Pennington was a cerebral qb.  Too bad his shoulders were tissues. 

Hard for anxious owners to sit first round qbs when the team sucks and you have a meh game manager in there.  This is the bad cycle the jets are in.  They’re either reaching for qbs who can’t play in the nfl or trading for fading stars past their prime.  

The difference between those owners and the good ones is lack of strategic long-term investment thinking. Good teams are forward thinking. We are not.

[T0mShane]

8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He couldn't really throw deep but I also thought he couldn't throw that medium length (e.g. 10 yards) sidelines throw down the field.  It was far too high risk of it being taken back for a pick 6.

Pennington had a tremendous deep ball. Look at his college tape with Randy Moss. He just had no velocity into intermediate areas. 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Adoni Beast said:

The difference between those owners and the good ones is lack of strategic long-term investment thinking. Good teams are forward thinking. We are not.

True and it keeps biting us in the a**.  We should draft a qb this year but won’t, a guy to sit behind rodgers and learn and then replace him.  Instead we’ll take OL and DL and go for broke trying to eke out a wildcard next year to justify every bad decision made the past 2 yrs with no qb succession plan.  Then when rodgers inevitably misses half the season and they don’t make the playoffs and everyone gets canned, we’ll draft the next overrated shiny new qb who is completely unprepared for the nfl and the cycle repeats

[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Pennington had a tremendous deep ball. Look at his college tape with Randy Moss. He just had no velocity into intermediate areas. 

Anyone could have a tremendous deep ball when throwing to a young Randy Moss

[Jet Nut]

39 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Pennington did not have "basic QB attributes".  He had a noodle arm and there were throws he couldn't make.

Before the shoulder injuries his arm was more than adequate.   

[Adoni Beast]

Just now, Augustiniak said:

True and it keeps biting us in the a**.  We should draft a qb this year but won’t, a guy to sit behind rodgers and learn and then replace him.  Instead we’ll take OL and DL and go for broke trying to eke out a wildcard next year to justify every bad decision made the past 2 yrs with no qb succession plan.  Then when rodgers inevitably misses half the season and they don’t make the playoffs and everyone gets canned, we’ll draft the next overrated shiny new qb who is completely unprepared for the nfl and the cycle repeats

More than anything this team needs a VP of Football Ops…someone who is going to oversee the GM+HC and how we scout, evaluate, develop, train players.

Someone to set a vision of this is how its supposed to look and work and determine standard.

You get a real footbal guy like a Mike Shanahan or Pete Carroll if he’s actually done coaching, etc. 

[Jetkwondo]

16 hours ago, Biggs said:

Addition by subtraction.  Rodgers was in hard decline and he’s a terrible teammate.   

Aaron Rodgers' first season with the New York Jets lasted only four plays, but he still made an impact. On Friday, he was voted by his teammates as the Jets' most inspirational player for the 2023 season. "I've said it a million times: He loves his teammates, and his teammates love him," coach Robert Saleh said.Jan 5, 2024

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, Adoni Beast said:

More than anything this team needs a VP of Football Ops…someone who is going to oversee the GM+HC and how we scout, evaluate, develop, train players.

Someone to set a vision of this is how its supposed to look and work and determine standard.

You get a real footbal guy like a Mike Shanahan or Pete Carroll if he’s actually done coaching, etc. 

exactly. 

[rangerous]

16 hours ago, nyjets1969 said:

This is almost the same identical offense as last year and they look good. If this is result of Rogers decline holding the offense back then  next year reality will set in.

oh yeah, the packers are a real juggernaut.  they won one additional game over the previous season after going 13-3 when malfy replaced mccarthy.  my guess is the whole team was getting old and moldy and they were able to get rid of guys like lazard and make room for the up and comers.  rodgers would've done equally well if not better but they were also running out of time in keeping love.

[Biggs]

5 minutes ago, Jetkwondo said:

Aaron Rodgers' first season with the New York Jets lasted only four plays, but he still made an impact. On Friday, he was voted by his teammates as the Jets' most inspirational player for the 2023 season. "I've said it a million times: He loves his teammates, and his teammates love him," coach Robert Saleh said.Jan 5, 2024

What an inspiration.  We won the exact same amount of games we won without his inspiration.

[Biggs]

4 minutes ago, rangerous said:

oh yeah, the packers are a real juggernaut.  they won one additional game over the previous season after going 13-3 when malfy replaced mccarthy.  my guess is the whole team was getting old and moldy and they were able to get rid of guys like lazard and make room for the up and comers.  rodgers would've done equally well if not better but they were also running out of time in keeping love.

Rodgers hasn't had a playoff game remotely as good as Love did last night since 2009.

[Jetkwondo]

2 minutes ago, Biggs said:

What an inspiration.  We won the exact same amount of games we won without his inspiration.

Well, something held that locker room together and the team, especially the D,  playing hard all season... maybe, just maybe

[Biggs]

2 minutes ago, Jetkwondo said:

Well, something held that locker room together and the team, especially the D,  playing hard all season... maybe, just maybe

The team with a good coaching staff and a reasonable backup QB is in the playoffs.  We may have lost in the first round but we make the playoffs.  See Cleveland as an example.  

[Dcat]

17 hours ago, nyjets1969 said:

This is almost the same identical offense as last year and they look good. If this is result of Rogers decline holding the offense back then  next year reality will set in.

This has to be the dumbest post in 2024 thus far.  I mean extraordinarily stupid.  Green Bay's current run proves NOTHING about Rodgers.    

[Dcat]

17 hours ago, MTJ06 said:

4 receivers who have made good contributions this year are rookies

 Musgrave, Kraft, Reed and Wicks

shhhh...  don't disturb the OP's nonsensical rant.

[Dcat]

53 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Pennington had a tremendous deep ball. Look at his college tape with Randy Moss. He just had no velocity into intermediate areas. 

after the shoulder blow out, dude couldn't even play ping pong well.

[Green Ghost]

6 hours ago, Jet2020 said:

Relax. It was the Cowboys in playoffs. Packers were 9-8 and will not have a shot next week. 

Look behind the numbers….  Did you watch how the Packers played in the second half of the season?

They are the youngest team in the NFL, and they continued to get better as the season went along.

[Dcat]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

Look behind the numbers….  Did you watch how the Packers played in the second half of the season?

They are the youngest team in the NFL, and they continued to get better as the season went along.

sure did.  But again, contrary to the OP's nonsensical claim, Green Bay's play proves nothing about Rodgers.  This thread belongs in the sewer.  

[CTJetsFan]

What Love has accomplished this year has NOTHING to do with Rodgers being "shot".

[Green Ghost]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Fwiw, give the Packers credit for sitting Love for a few years and letting him learn.  Imagine if ZW had at least a year or 2 to learn before getting thrown to the wolves.

It would’ve taken two years to realize Zach sucks?

[rex-n-effect]

Does it prove Aaron Rodgers is shot or that having Lazard as his WR1 and Cobb as WR2 was a recipe for disaster?

[Raideraholic]

5 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Fwiw, give the Packers credit for sitting Love for a few years and letting him learn.  Imagine if ZW had at least a year or 2 to learn before getting thrown to the wolves.

Love looked really bad early in the year .  The packers were thinking of getting rid of him after the Raider game.( he looked that bad)  .   As the season progressed he got better, great job by Love.

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

8 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Ummm... when the Packers drafted Love, Rodgers already had one of the greatest WRs on the planet on his team and he won a couple of MVPs. It was the D that was holding them back, not the O.

Ummm. He won won two more, ummm, MVPs, ummmm, after, ummmm, they signed his replacement instead of signing another WR or OL, or umm anything other than ummm, his replacement. 

[bicketybam]

No it's one of the key reasons Green Bay wanted to get rid of him.  He just wanted to be surrounded by his guys and trashed management draft picks publicly.  It's why were stuck with Lazzard and Hackett. 

Both guys were signed/hired king before the Rodgers trade went down. I truly believe Lazard was going to be signed anyway as he was (unfortunately) one of the top free agent wideouts. Hackett was signed in an effort to lure Rodgers but it wasn't dictated by him.

Green Bay wanted to get rid of him because of his contract, his age and most importantly their belief that Love was ready.

[Biggs]

1 hour ago, bicketybam said:

 

 

Both guys were signed/hired king before the Rodgers trade went down. I truly believe Lazard was going to be signed anyway as he was (unfortunately) one of the top free agent wideouts. Hackett was signed in an effort to lure Rodgers but it wasn't dictated by him.

Green Bay wanted to get rid of him because of his contract, his age and most importantly their belief that Love was ready.

 

They didn’t know Love was ready.  They drafted him based on skills.  Until you get the keys there is no way to know how he wii process or react.  They were tired of Rodgers and didn’t believe he could take them deep into the playoffs.

it’s obvious that the GM and HC hate Rodgers.

[BroadwayRay]

Aaron Rodgers was known to be "shot" when the Jets started courting him a year ago. In his own words, he was "90% retired."

 

[Barry McCockinner]

Packers would have won last night with Rodgers at QB.

[Dcat]

6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Packers would have won last night with Rodgers at QB.

easily

[Larz]

Packers proved that is is nice to hit on a  a HOF QB after 25 picks and later on draft a first round QB and let him sit for 3 years 

jets should totally do that 

[LSJF]

On 1/15/2024 at 10:12 AM, Augustiniak said:

True and it keeps biting us in the a**.  We should draft a qb this year but won’t, a guy to sit behind rodgers and learn and then replace him.  Instead we’ll take OL and DL and go for broke trying to eke out a wildcard next year to justify every bad decision made the past 2 yrs with no qb succession plan.  Then when rodgers inevitably misses half the season and they don’t make the playoffs and everyone gets canned, we’ll draft the next overrated shiny new qb who is completely unprepared for the nfl and the cycle repeats

[The Crusher]

Does this mean he’s less shot now? 

[Rich Thornburgh]

I thought Rodgers was against shots