UntouchableCrew Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Chrebetfan80 said: I think they had no choice but to gamble. Tepper's instability scared a lot of candidates off I believe. Also the fact that you have to really believe Bryce Young is your guy because you're saddled with him for the foreseeable future. Agreed. I think the volatility of the job and the fact that the mandate is basically "save Bryce Young's career" makes it a pretty limiting opportunity unless you're a big believer in Young. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 36 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Ok but to make it fair, trade Zack Wilson to the Panthers and has to start for 3 years Hello Woody!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 50 minutes ago, JetPotato said: WRONG Tepper earned his billions on his own. He has some insight on how to build success. Woody was handed everything he has and is. Never worked, never needed to, never learned from failure, never learned from success. He's as incompetent a human being as you can be. I'm not sure that matters. Tepper may be a brilliant hedge fund manager but that doesn't necessarily translate to running a football operation -- he has yet to return a winning season since he bought the team which is a much worse start to his ownership tenure than Woody. More impressive person than Woody? Clearly. Not sure there's a shred of evidence he's a better NFL owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 Meh. This board roasted the Detroit Head Coach hire a few years ago and that has turned out to be a fantastic move in hiring CampbellTrue, but that was more the opening press conference than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Temper is Absolutely a worse owner. Tried calling play’s during a game, and this is the 6th coach in 6 years and Landing Reich was, initially, a move in the right direction. But the owner couldn’t stay away. He drifted into the draft evaluation process, stumping up for Young ahead of Stroud or Anthony Richardson. He joined film room sessions with the staff, critiquing play calls. They were not, according to Reich, “fun meetings”. Tepper put another draft pick on the table before the recent trade deadline, encouraging GM Scott Fitterer to acquire a wide receiver – like, say, DJ Moore. When those microwave meals fell short, Tepper did what he does best: he fired someone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, JohnnyLV said: Meh. This board roasted the Detroit Head Coach hire a few years ago and that has turned out to be a fantastic move in hiring Campbell It's amazing just how often the majority of this board and the group speak/sheeple it produces is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I'd absolutely rather have this guy and a fresh staff then Saleh and Hackett 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: I'm not sure that matters. Tepper may be a brilliant hedge fund manager but that doesn't necessarily translate to running a football operation -- he has yet to return a winning season since he bought the team which is a much worse start to his ownership tenure than Woody. More impressive person than Woody? Clearly. Not sure there's a shred of evidence he's a better NFL owner. Tepper doesn't hold the current streak for most consecutive years without a playoff appearance in the 4 major American sports. That's a Woody accomplishment. Tepper is showing that he has a genuine desire to win. He holds people accountable. By those measures alone, he is heads and shoulders above the idiot Johnson. You can argue about the methods all you want, but recognizing that things aren't working and making changes to TRY to correct it are the first step in any process. Woody is too stupid to even get to Step 1. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Let's check back in three years and compare him and Saleh's records for first three years. Shall we?If the Jets canned Saleh and hired this guy, this place would be in full meltdown mode. He may very well turn out to be a good coach but he's the exact kind of hire that would send most Jets fans here to the nearest bridge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Tepper doesn't hold the current streak for most consecutive years without a playoff appearance in the 4 major American sports. That's a Woody accomplishment. Tepper is showing that he has a genuine desire to win. He holds people accountable. By those measures alone, he is heads and shoulders above the idiot Johnson. You can argue about the methods all you want, but recognizing that things aren't working and making changes to TRY to correct it are the first step in any process. Woody is too stupid to even get to Step 1.He's the ******* guy that picked Bryce Young over Stroud! Holy sh*t, this place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 How much $ is Reich walking away with. (Set for life.) Canales just got a bag and a whole lot of coaches would trade places with him in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, bicketybam said: 3 hours ago, JetPotato said: Tepper doesn't hold the current streak for most consecutive years without a playoff appearance in the 4 major American sports. That's a Woody accomplishment. Tepper is showing that he has a genuine desire to win. He holds people accountable. By those measures alone, he is heads and shoulders above the idiot Johnson. You can argue about the methods all you want, but recognizing that things aren't working and making changes to TRY to correct it are the first step in any process. Woody is too stupid to even get to Step 1. He's the ******* guy that picked Bryce Young over Stroud! Holy sh*t, this place. Holy sh*t indeed. And we selected Zack and Sam. What’s your point? I’ll take the volatile, hold people accountable type, 99/100. Talk to me in 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 They didn't snatch up the highly successful Mike LaFleur??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 How many OCs has Bowles had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, bicketybam said: 7 hours ago, The Crusher said: Let's check back in three years and compare him and Saleh's records for first three years. Shall we? If the Jets canned Saleh and hired this guy, this place would be in full meltdown mode. He may very well turn out to be a good coach but he's the exact kind of hire that would send most Jets fans here to the nearest bridge. Yeah, this is the nonsense that makes me miss @SAR I avatar of Jets first time coordinator to head coach disasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Holy sh*t indeed. And we selected Zack and Sam. What’s your point? I’ll take the volatile, hold people accountable type, 99/100. Talk to me in 10 years.We selected Zach AFTER the best QB was taken. The Panthers could have picked Stroud but the owner talked them into Young. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 hours ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: I don't think this is a bad move. He's a good OC. There could be worse. Agreed. The Panthers need to develop Young, and this guy’s resume says he might be able to do it. He makes more sense for them right now than a Vrabel type HC… a young offensive mind who will try to implement a scheme for their young QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 2 hours ago, OilfieldJet said: Holy sh*t indeed. And we selected Zack and Sam. What’s your point? I’ll take the volatile, hold people accountable type, 99/100. Talk to me in 10 years. We selected Zach AFTER the best QB was taken. The Panthers could have picked Stroud but the owner talked them into Young. Big difference. I’m glad this makes you feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 hours ago, OilfieldJet said: Nope, call me in 10 years if the Panther's don't make the playoffs. BTW, I will take the under on that bet. Woody is the worst owner in the NFL. No, Tepper is and its not even close Let me know when Woody pours drinks on fans and fires 2 coaches in mid season 2 years in a row a huge contingent of Charlotte fans have stopped rooting for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said: Somehow, this doesn't make me feel any better... Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, sciond said: No, Tepper is and its not even close Let me know when Woody pours drinks on fans and fires 2 coaches in mid season 2 years in a row a huge contingent of Charlotte fans have stopped rooting for them We disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: We disagree. That we agree on.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I’m glad this makes you feel better.It's just a fact. Imagine the Jets having the #1 pick in 2021 and Woody demanding that JD take Zack Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 A six-year contract? Panthers may set the world record for number of ex-head coaches on the payroll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 15 hours ago, JetPotato said: Tepper doesn't hold the current streak for most consecutive years without a playoff appearance in the 4 major American sports. That's a Woody accomplishment. Tepper is showing that he has a genuine desire to win. He holds people accountable. By those measures alone, he is heads and shoulders above the idiot Johnson. You can argue about the methods all you want, but recognizing that things aren't working and making changes to TRY to correct it are the first step in any process. Woody is too stupid to even get to Step 1. Tepper doesn't hold the streak, but he's chasing it. In the five years before Tepper bought the Panthers: They were 51-28-1 They had 4 playoff appearances in 5 years The won the NFC Championship and appeared in the Super Bowl in 2015 They advanced at least to the divisional round three times In the six years since Tepper bought the Panthers: They are 31-68 0 playoff appearances 7 Head Coaches You argue Tepper has displayed he "has a genuine desire to win" but I'd argue he's equally displayed that he's an impatient meddlesome buffoon whose first six years as an owner are substantially worse than Woody Johnson's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 20 hours ago, chirorob said: He weeps tears of joy he isn't going to that dumpster fire. Perhaps but the Panthers have been to 2 SB's and countless playoff games since Woody has owned the Jets. Tepper is a different animal but the Jets look up at the Panthers since Woody's ownership. EDIT: @UntouchableCrew said it much better than I could. Didn't see his post.^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Perhaps but the Panthers have been to 2 SB's and countless playoff games since Woody has owned the Jets. Tepper is a different animal but the Jets look up at the Panthers since Woody's ownership. EDIT: @UntouchableCrew said it much better than I could. Didn't see his post.^^^^ Panthers pre Tepper were a MUCH better franchise. He is the new Snyder, or worse. Woody is a dumb ass. There's no joy in saying, "32 teams!! There is an owner worse than ours!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, chirorob said: Panthers pre Tepper were a MUCH better franchise. He is the new Snyder, or worse. Woody is a dumb ass. There's no joy in saying, "32 teams!! There is an owner worse than ours!" Tepper is not worse yet for certain but the smart money says he will be. Very surprising actually. A smart businessman making such poor decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 16 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Tepper is not worse yet for certain but the smart money says he will be. Very surprising actually. A smart businessman making such poor decisions. Yeah, when Tepper first bought the team and hired Rhule I was jealous. He seemed like he was going to be good. Now he's one of the few owners who genuinely seems worse than Woody to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 The path to an NFL head coaching job could not be clearer. 1 of 2 pathways. Dudes who can manage both (Matt LaFleur) are a lock to get hired. 1) Get a job as an NFL OC and playcaller and do a halfway decent job, especially with a middle of the road or down bad QB. All it takes is one year. 2) Have any coaching association whatsoever to Sean McVay If you are an offensive minded coach these days, it’s much easier. Just have 1 good year on your resume and coaches will be convinced you could the next McVay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 hours ago, southparkcpa said: Tepper is not worse yet for certain but the smart money says he will be. Very surprising actually. A smart businessman making such poor decisions. Just about every Panthers fan I know thinks he is a tool and stopped supporting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, sciond said: Just about every Panthers fan I know thinks he is a tool and stopped supporting them. agreed... but doesn't mean he is worse than dickhead Woody, Woody has accomplished zero., Tepper has accomplished much. He is solely responsible for bringing MLS here. But yes, he looks like he can't stop meddling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 7 hours ago, southparkcpa said: agreed... but doesn't mean he is worse than dickhead Woody, Woody has accomplished zero., Tepper has accomplished much. He is solely responsible for bringing MLS here. But yes, he looks like he can't stop meddling. All true... I can't get past the drink pouring thing.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Yikes ! Tony Pauline from the shrine game practices On Friday, the Carolina Panthers fired offensive line coach James Campen, who had been with the team since 2022. The team’s offensive line struggled and could not protect Bryce Young, the first pick of the 2023 NFL Draft. Many of Carolina’s blockers have not met expectations. I’m also told Campen made a few enemies within the organization, as he was the eyes and ears for owner David Tepper in the locker room. In fact, sources at Shrine practice Saturday told me that Tepper had more than a few people in the locker room who would report back to him on the goings on, which destroyed team chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 he will definitely need to hedge the QB position especially with bryce young. a number 2 is critical I highly recommend he offers the new york jets picks for zach wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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