83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: This might be the worst take on QB’s here and that’s hard. Let me know when Baker wins an MVP over all those talented QB’s you listed. Winning an MVP is a non sequitur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: This might be the worst take on QB’s here and that’s hard. Let me know when Baker wins an MVP over all those talented QB’s you listed. Argue that boomer is a top 5 QB in his era. No need for insults. Most ppl I talk to obviously say he was a franchise QB, was really good and had his moments. At no time did anyone ever think he was better than Marino Elway Kelly Montana Moon Cunningham Aikman Fouts Favre- was a bit later but again boomer wasn't close to this level Jim McMahon was absolutely more talented but career ruined by injuries Steve Young - emerged in 88-89 and was 100% better There's more but I don't feel like looking it up Danny White was in his prime in the Earl 80s and was absolutely better. But boomer didn't come along until 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 For reference:https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EsiaBo00.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 What’s plan B for the Bucs? Zach ? Nix? Flacco? Brissett? I don’t think Cousins leaves minny but if he does I’d guess he goes to Atlanta you just won the division, made the playoffs, and paid your homegrown WR 25 million. Keep him happy with a QB he knows. He may not get $40, but he’s not hitting free agency either. If I had to guess I’d say $32 but that Jones contract really screwed the market so who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I like Baker, he’s got limits but he’s defo got game. Any semi competent NFL QB is getting paid. There are just not enough good QB’s, not that I’d know what one looks like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Baker is a better QB than Derek Carr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 hours ago, AFJF said: Not Jets related but heard speculation on a podcast yesterday with a former scout and current Steelers media guy say quite flippantly that they expect Baker Mayfield to get over $40 million per year. I mean, I know he had a good year but that's crazy, right? What do you think his new deal comes in at? Crazy? No. Any QB that can argue his value should start at Daniel Jones should ask for at least 40M. I think Baker should. Unless there is a bidding war between Min, ATL, TN, LV, NYG and TB, I think Tampa signs him to 3yr-100 million-40 guaranteed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, PFSIKH said: Crazy? No. Any QB that can argue his value should start at Daniel Jones should ask for at least 40M. I think Baker should. Unless there is a bidding war between Min, ATL, TN, LV, NYG and TB, I think Tampa signs him to 3yr-100 million-40 guaranteed. @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 @Jetsfan80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Larz said: He may not get $40, but he’s not hitting free agency either. If I had to guess I’d say $32 but that Jones contract really screwed the market so who knows I'm not really big on Baker, but he's getting $40 given the new cap. Tua and Dak are gonna approach 60 and I'd take him over both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 He's a starting NFL QB. He's probably in the bottom half of the second 10. I would probably take him over guys like Kyle Murray, Carr, Geno Smith and maybe even Tua and Dak Prescott. I say that because in a big game I would want him ahead of all of those guys. Right now he has a better future than Rodgers and probably Cousins coming off big injuries. He's been to 4 playoff games and has 2 wins. Both losses came against better teams on the road. He's hung around, bet on himself, improved and brought some real game to the table. You could do a lot worse. See the NY Jets as an example. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Baker needs to let Tua's deal come through first then use that as the starting point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 6:56 AM, Larz said: What’s plan B for the Bucs? Zach ? Nix? Flacco? Brissett? I don’t think Cousins leaves minny but if he does I’d guess he goes to Atlanta you just won the division, made the playoffs, and paid your homegrown WR 25 million. Keep him happy with a QB he knows. He may not get $40, but he’s not hitting free agency either. If I had to guess I’d say $32 but that Jones contract really screwed the market so who knows Assuming he hits incentives it’s basically $38 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 For a QB of bakers ability this is basically a bargain. Happy for him. I'm still pissed at how dumb the Cleveland front office is. Completely ridiculous amateur hour by their front office 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Awful signing but I suppose it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Poor Gardner Minshew bout to backup Rodgers for $4 million a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 7:27 AM, PFSIKH said: Crazy? No. Any QB that can argue his value should start at Daniel Jones should ask for at least 40M. I think Baker should. Unless there is a bidding war between Min, ATL, TN, LV, NYG and TB, I think Tampa signs him to 3yr-100 million-40 guaranteed. Damn...10 M off on the guaranteed. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Does this mean he’ll get to do the NFL commercials again? They were funny as hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 This is a much better contract than what the Jets got Rodgers for. I am not convinced that, today (not 2021), Rodgers is better than Mayfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 hours ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: For a QB of bakers ability this is basically a bargain. Happy for him. I'm still pissed at how dumb the Cleveland front office is. Completely ridiculous amateur hour by their front office Why? Cleveland is in the AFC while Tampa is the NFC. We should be happy that a good QB went to the other conference. Or in addition to the Bills and Jets you're also a Browns fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 13 hours ago, New York Mick said: Does this mean he’ll get to do the NFL commercials again? They were funny as hell I couldn't stand his commercials and you couldn't get away from them. Plus he did nothing at the time to earn them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/8/2024 at 2:06 PM, jeremy2020 said: I'm not really big on Baker, but he's getting $40 given the new cap. Tua and Dak are gonna approach 60 and I'd take him over both of them. I also was certain he'd get 40+ (or high 30's at a minimum) but somehow Tampa got him cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/8/2024 at 8:27 AM, PFSIKH said: Crazy? No. Any QB that can argue his value should start at Daniel Jones should ask for at least 40M. I think Baker should. Unless there is a bidding war between Min, ATL, TN, LV, NYG and TB, I think Tampa signs him to 3yr-100 million-40 guaranteed. 13 hours ago, PFSIKH said: Damn...10 M off on the guaranteed. Can I get your guess at the numbers for the next Mega Millions? Try to not be off at all this time though. Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 40 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Can I get your guess at the numbers for the next Mega Millions? Try to not be off at all this time though. Thx! I know right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Why? Cleveland is in the AFC while Tampa is the NFC. We should be happy that a good QB went to the other conference. Or in addition to the Bills and Jets you're also a Browns fan? That's true. That doesn't negate the browns stupidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: That's true. That doesn't negate the browns stupidity I want as many teams in the AFC (preferably those in our division, other than us) to make stupid decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I want as many teams in the AFC (preferably those in our division, other than us) to make stupid decisions.You think we can get an AFC team to trade for Zach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: I want as many teams in the AFC (preferably those in our division, other than us) to make stupid decisions. I agree. I'm simply talking about football competency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, bicketybam said: You think we can get an AFC team to trade for Zach? "Says the guy who would be telling the same stale joke over and over" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 "Says the guy who would be telling the same stale joke over and over"That's new! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Why? Cleveland is in the AFC while Tampa is the NFC. We should be happy that a good QB went to the other conference. Or in addition to the Bills and Jets you're also a Browns fan? I can assure you I love the jets. My father is a die hard jets fan. My favorite players growing up were Marvin Jones, Ray Mickens, Curtis my favorite Martin, Randy Thomas, Glenn, Coleman and Sam Cowart who previously played for buffalo. My all time favorite jet is probably Vinny Testaverde or Marvin Jones. I was obsessed with Marvin Jones growing up and had his Same number in HS. I was naive enough to think I could play lb at Florida State lol Buffalo grew on me growing up because of how good they were along with trying to be different from my old man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I can assure you I love the jets. My father is a die hard jets fan. My favorite players growing up were Marvin Jones, Ray Mickens, Curtis my favorite Martin, Randy Thomas, Glenn, Coleman and Sam Cowart who previously played for buffalo. My all time favorite jet is probably Vinny Testaverde or Marvin Jones. I was obsessed with Marvin Jones growing up and had his Same number in HS. I was naive enough to think I could play lb at Florida State lol Buffalo grew on me growing up because of how good they were along with trying to be different from my old man. Just tell me how old you were in 1992. That will tell me everything I need to know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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