Augustiniak Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: What if Bakhtiari wants to be the Secretary of State instead? I would think he can do both especially if he ‘plays’ for the jets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: What if Bakhtiari wants to be the Secretary of State instead? What if Becton wants to be the Secretary of Agriculture? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Not sure how he did last year (pff scores) but was a pro bowler in 2021, he would 100% for sure be on my list of guys to look closely at. Pff is promoted by gambling conglomerates for the perception of privileged information. The NFL helps prop it up to help sell the industry. Its amateur in qualitative analysis at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: What if Bakhtiari wants to be the Secretary of State instead? Him and Aaron are already talking to the CIA about how they’re gonna do it this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I’m going to add onto this and say that, PERSONALLY *NOT SOURCED*, I think Smith is using us for more money from annotjer team *cough* Chiefs *Cough* and Bakhtiari will be our LT. Chiefs should just laugh and say “go ahead! Join the Jets!” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, section314 said: Isn’t MVS another WR who can’t catch? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, celtasnake said: I really hope MVS stands for, i don´t know, Michael Vontae Smith for example, and not Marquez Valdes-Scantling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I didn’t hear anything on Jonah, but gross if true. Was there any talk to try to bring Frankie Luvu back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Chiefs should just laugh and say “go ahead! Join the Jets!” Lmfao, it’s worked for every other team so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, section314 said: Was there any talk to try to bring Frankie Luvu back? Nyet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Was this posted? Didn’t see it if so. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39706509/saints-michael-thomas-release-free-agency Worth a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 29 minutes ago, section314 said: Isn’t MVS another WR who can’t catch? Yes, but he’s really fast, and he only drops the really important passes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 https://arizonasports.com/story/3543958/arizona-cardinals-release-dj-humphries-free-up-salary-cap-space/ Could be a target depending on how his knee checks out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 51 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Pff is promoted by gambling conglomerates for the perception of privileged information. The NFL helps prop it up to help sell the industry. Its amateur in qualitative analysis at best. Perhaps but since the masses have no access to 'real' quantitative analysis it is all we have is it not? Or do you have access to a site with much better info? Share if you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: Those who prefer Tyron Smith to Bakhtiari: I don’t thank that dream is over yet. Those who don’t want MVS: I don’t think that nightmare is over yet. If we sign MVS so help me god. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted March 14 Popular Post Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If we sign MVS so help me god. I mean, yeah, it will probably suck until April to find out who are real #2 WR is. That being said, if we land a LT like Tyron Smith to finish the o-line, I think the flexibility it gives us at 10 is better than being stuck with overpaying someone in FA, and being forced to go OL in the draft. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: I mean, yeah, it will probably suck until April to find out who are real #2 WR is. That being said, if we land a LT like Tyron Smith to finish the o-line, I think the flexibility it gives us at 10 is better than being stuck with overpaying someone in FA, and being forced to go OL in the draft. I still think we should draft OT in the draft (assuming JD and the scouts believe in one of the guys who will be available to us). Tyron Smith is an injury risk and I think Morgan Moses is in the final year of his deal. If we can add an OT at 1.10 to AVT and Tippmann, that would give us 3 pieces to build around. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted March 14 Popular Post Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I still think we should draft OT in the draft (assuming JD and the scouts believe in one of the guys who will be available to us). Tyron Smith is an injury risk and I think Morgan Moses is in the final year of his deal. If we can add an OT at 1.10 to AVT and Tippmann, that would give us 3 pieces to build around. You’d be spending a Top 10 pick on a guy who would be a backup swing tackle for at least a year if all goes well. If the Jets sign Smith, you have to go with an offensive weapon at #10, be it Odunze or Bowers most likely. They’ve drafted Warren and Mitchell in back to back years as developmental OT’s and there’s nothing saying they can’t take one in the 3rd or 4th this year either. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Untouchable said: You’d be spending a Top 10 pick on a guy who would be a backup swing tackle for at least a year if all goes well. If the Jets sign Smith, you have to go with an offensive weapon at #10, be it Odunze or Bowers most likely. They’ve drafted Warren and Mitchell in back to back years as developmental OT’s and there’s nothing saying they can’t take one in the 3rd this year either. I understand the rationale but I hate that every year our OL is a mess and we have a lot of that puzzle still left to solve. If we have a chance to put a longer-term piece into place on the OL, I hope we do so. That said, if we add to our weapinzz, I'm sure I'll be very happy on draft day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 48 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Yes, but he’s really fast, and he only drops the really important passes. Lam Jones’ grandson?😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I understand the rationale but I hate that every year our OL is a mess and we have a lot of that puzzle still left to solve. If we have a chance to put a longer-term piece into place on the OL, I hope we do so. That said, if we add to our weapinzz, I'm sure I'll be very happy on draft day. I get that people have been pissed about the OL being in shambles but I think we’ve already made significant headway if AVT comes back healthy. Tyron Smith gets banged up here and there. Not typically season ending stuff, just misses a couple of games now and again. If a dude like Warren has to step in for a game or two, I don’t think that’s the end of the world. He was a guy that always had starting potential, the knee injury his senior year is what knocked him down to the 4th round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I mean, yeah, it will probably suck until April to find out who are real #2 WR is. That being said, if we land a LT like Tyron Smith to finish the o-line, I think the flexibility it gives us at 10 is better than being stuck with overpaying someone in FA, and being forced to go OL in the draft. How about we sign a Wr who is not a dog instead of a Rodgers buddy? Boyd, or Samuel I'd easily take OBJ or MVS. I would like a vet Wr but not a stink fest Lazard version 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Connor Williams Arguably one of the best Centers in the game, but is questionable to be ready to start the season. Would you roll the dice that he could be ready by the start, at the latest within the first quarter of the season? Could play center, and push Tippman out, or could play guard and let Tippman grow at center. Either way, strength the o line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 55 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Yes, but he’s really fast, and he only drops the really important passes. so a faster Corey Davis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Land Tyron Smith and we may be cooking with a very above average OL come September 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Idk how you guys can worry about free agents when we are 2 weeks away from a potential Tyrod Taylor QB1 storyline 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: How about we sign a Wr who is not a dog instead of a Rodgers buddy? Boyd, or Samuel I'd easily take OBJ or MVS. I would like a vet Wr but not a stink fest Lazard version 2.0 I agree. I wouldn’t rule any of those other names out other than Samuel. I don’t think he’s on the short list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: How about we sign a Wr who is not a dog instead of a Rodgers buddy? Boyd, or Samuel I'd easily take OBJ or MVS. I would like a vet Wr but not a stink fest Lazard version 2.0 It doesn’t matter who, me, JD Saleh or even Woody want. There is only one voice on this ship, and that’s why it is sinking faster than the Titanic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Idk how you guys can worry about free agents when we are 2 weeks away from a potential Tyrod Taylor QB1 storyline You looking for a bridge to buy, perchance? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 35 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Perhaps but since the masses have no access to 'real' quantitative analysis it is all we have is it not? Or do you have access to a site with much better info? Share if you do. No. You can get the all 22 and watch the film. Anyone that's ever played a decent level of football and knows the game can do a good job that represents a grade based in reality. Qualitative analysis is not a hard science either so it's somewhat subjective. Ie what is a good block? What defines a 100 vs 75 on a block. Are you knowledgeable enough to understand route concepts and who's fault it is on certain plays etc. Pff, and to some degree football outsiders are in the business of selling " privileged" information. The NFL media pundits promote the information/ data to create the veneer of credibility. Its just another scam basically. Some of the quantitative data and analytics are useful. Or a QBs overall passer rating on third down etc. But coaches and front offices have their own data analysis. Its certainly not pff lol. they have their own data analysis depts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: No. You can get the all 22 and watch the film. Anyone that's ever played a decent level of football and knows the game can do a good job that represents a grade based in reality. Qualitative analysis is not a hard science either so it's somewhat subjective. Ie what is a good block? What defines a 100 vs 75 on a block. Are you knowledgeable enough to understand route concepts and who's fault it is on certain plays etc. Pff, and to some degree football outsiders are in the business of selling " privileged" information. The NFL media pundits promote the information/ data to create the veneer of credibility. Its just another scam basically. Some of the quantitative data and analytics are useful. Or a QBs overall passer rating on third down etc. But coaches and front offices have their own data analysis. Its certainly not pff lol. they have their own data analysis depts No sorry saying go get the film is silly becasue to look at one LT like Humphries i have to look at all the tackles in the league. A flawed org with flawed evals? I've seen outliers in some stuff that makes no sense at all but at least it gives a person some compartive info vs zero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 With Simpson and Moses being more gap/power OLmen… …I’m starting to wonder if the Jets sign Trent Brown, who I didn’t think was a scheme fit before. They should be planning for more power OL scheme with the additions they’ve made. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: No sorry saying go get the film is silly becasue to look at one LT like Humphries i have to look at all the tackles in the league. A flawed org with flawed evals? I've seen outliers in some stuff that makes no sense at all but at least it gives a person some compartive info vs zero. I agree it's not useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 If we sign Kevin Zeitler to play RG, and kick AVT out to LT, we’d have 3/5’s of the Raven’s OL. Which I believe ranked #1 in rushing yards last year. Just a thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 12 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: If we sign Kevin Zeitler to play RG, and kick AVT out to LT, we’d have 3/5’s of the Raven’s OL. Which I believe ranked #1 in rushing yards last year. Just a thought. Zeitler for one year is cool. Little old with Moses and Zeitler. But it's certainly an improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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