varjet Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Leave AVT at RG. sign a LT and assume he platoons with Carter Warren, since the likely suspects are injury prone trade down and get a second round pick. first round and second round picks are bpa OT or WR only. we could end up with a Guyton and Pearsall for example. We should assume this is a one year rental of Moses so drafting a T is ok There be lots of OL injuries hope we can get mosley’s or Clark’s replacement in round 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 hours ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said: Qualitative analysis is not a hard science either so it's somewhat subjective. The issue here are the tools, how they are used and the lack of hard science mathematics. For instance...two players sacks numbers may be 10 or 11 in a given year. The guy with 11 is not necessarily better than the guy with 10. Now, if the data sets are both normally distributed, and test as such, and the standard deviation is more than 1, you can mathematically prove 11 is better than 10. Things are not always normally distributed. There are also very few people on this planet that can use other forms of statistics to analyze data that follow other distributions. Even those who can have to find others to validate their models. Making this even harder. Not to mention Cray and Massively Parallel systems can cost more than the salary cap to operate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Today would be a great day to sign Tyron Smith. Speak this into existence JN. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 13 hours ago, Beerfish said: If we sign MVS so help me god. Michael Thomas on a 1 yr. "prove it" deal? Make it happen AR! 13 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Was this posted? Didn’t see it if so. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39706509/saints-michael-thomas-release-free-agency Worth a look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Michael Thomas on a 1 yr. "prove it" deal? Make it happen AR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I hope JD didn’t screw the pooch letting QJ leave The Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms on a one-year deal with former New York Jets defensive lineman Quinton Jefferson, a source told ESPN's Jake Trotter. Jefferson, 30, enjoyed one of his most productive seasons in 2023. After being released by the Seattle Seahawks (his second stint with the team), he signed a one-year, $3.6 million contract with the Jets and wound up playing 14 games -- all starts. Jefferson recorded a career-high six sacks and had 34 tackles before his season ended prematurely in December, when he suffered tears to both sides of his groin, each tear requiring surgery. At the end of the season, he expressed optimism about his chances of returning for OTAs in the spring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 37 minutes ago, GKnight83 said: The issue here are the tools, how they are used and the lack of hard science mathematics. For instance...two players sacks numbers may be 10 or 11 in a given year. The guy with 11 is not necessarily better than the guy with 10. Now, if the data sets are both normally distributed, and test as such, and the standard deviation is more than 1, you can mathematically prove 11 is better than 10. Things are not always normally distributed. There are also very few people on this planet that can use other forms of statistics to analyze data that follow other distributions. Even those who can have to find others to validate their models. Making this even harder. Not to mention Cray and Massively Parallel systems can cost more than the salary cap to operate Nerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 41 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Michael Thomas on a 1 yr. "prove it" deal? Make it happen AR! I’d consider Thomas as a camp body option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 mike williams/boyd AND samuel - need 2 WRs. gotta get someone that can pretend to be a LT before the draft. bahktiari probably - that could open up some draft freedom (trade down) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, heymangold said: mike williams/boyd AND samuel - need 2 WRs. gotta get someone that can pretend to be a LT before the draft. bahktiari probably - that could open up some draft freedom (trade down) Please, no more Packers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 32 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: I hope JD didn’t screw the pooch letting QJ leave The Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms on a one-year deal with former New York Jets defensive lineman Quinton Jefferson, a source told ESPN's Jake Trotter. Jefferson, 30, enjoyed one of his most productive seasons in 2023. After being released by the Seattle Seahawks (his second stint with the team), he signed a one-year, $3.6 million contract with the Jets and wound up playing 14 games -- all starts. Jefferson recorded a career-high six sacks and had 34 tackles before his season ended prematurely in December, when he suffered tears to both sides of his groin, each tear requiring surgery. At the end of the season, he expressed optimism about his chances of returning for OTAs in the spring. He was on a one year deal here, coming off two penis enlargement surgeries and Cleveland only wants to risk one year on him, too. I think the team will manage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Today would be a great day to sign Tyron Smith. Speak this into existence JN. I think the Mosely deal is foreshadowing Tyron Smith. This gives JD alot of flexibility to trade down in the draft and recoup a second or third rounder in a deep draft. Probably try and get OBJ or MVS as a three and draft a WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Please, no more Packers. i mean i don’t want the guy but it seems inevitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Wit said: I think the Mosely deal is foreshadowing Tyron Smith. This gives JD alot of flexibility to trade down in the draft and recoup a second or third rounder in a deep draft. Probably try and get OBJ or MVS as a three and draft a WR. love all of this except the WR talk haha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Wit said: I think the Mosely deal is foreshadowing Tyron Smith. This gives JD alot of flexibility to trade down in the draft and recoup a second or third rounder in a deep draft. Probably try and get OBJ or MVS as a three and draft a WR. I doubt we get Tyron but I'd be fine with MVS who may have something to prove and a rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: I doubt we get Tyron but I'd be fine with MVS who may have something to prove and a rookie MVS is the one WR I absolutely don't want. So, we absolutely will get him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Tyron + Boyd then Bowers at #10 I can get on board with that 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Untouchable said: Tyron + Boyd then Bowers at #10 I can get on board with that Ok on the first two, the third one, I jump, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, section314 said: Ok on the first two, the third one, I jump, Why? Dude is a game breaker who can also block his ass off and is a team leader. Conklin is a solid player, but he’s nearly 30 and entering the last year of his deal. If the Jets further solidify the OL and bring in another quality wideout like Boyd, then I don’t get why Bowers is such a no-go for so many. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I would love to get Tyron Smith. He seems like a better option than David Bakhtiari. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted March 14 Popular Post Share Posted March 14 Anyone think that maybe OL aren’t excited to come here because Carter sucks, MetLife turf sucks, and OL regularly drop like flies on this team? All things being equal, I’d look elsewhere, too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, slats said: Anyone think that maybe OL aren’t excited to come here because Carter sucks, MetLife turf sucks, and OL regularly drop like flies on this team? All things being equal, I’d look elsewhere, too. Sad but true. Carter seems universally despised among players who have played for him. And the MetLife turf is like walking into a buzzsaw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, slats said: Anyone think that maybe OL aren’t excited to come here because Carter sucks, MetLife turf sucks, and OL regularly drop like flies on this team? All things being equal, I’d look elsewhere, too. Definitely. Throw in Saleh and Hackett as well and it's a revolting idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Kelly2Allen18 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, GKnight83 said: The issue here are the tools, how they are used and the lack of hard science mathematics. For instance...two players sacks numbers may be 10 or 11 in a given year. The guy with 11 is not necessarily better than the guy with 10. Now, if the data sets are both normally distributed, and test as such, and the standard deviation is more than 1, you can mathematically prove 11 is better than 10. Things are not always normally distributed. There are also very few people on this planet that can use other forms of statistics to analyze data that follow other distributions. Even those who can have to find others to validate their models. Making this even harder. Not to mention Cray and Massively Parallel systems can cost more than the salary cap to operate I honestly just think it's some middle aged dude making up the numbers in the basement at pff headquarters 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 56 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Why? Dude is a game breaker who can also block his ass off and is a team leader. Conklin is a solid player, but he’s nearly 30 and entering the last year of his deal. If the Jets further solidify the OL and bring in another quality wideout like Boyd, then I don’t get why Bowers is such a no-go for so many. He's a TE in the 1rd rd where so many others have not lived up to expectations here. He is awesome on college but a little light in the ass so his blocking may not hold up in the NFL. People have seen other teams not have the success they hoped for with 1st rd TE's lately (see atlanta) and....well New York Jets: First Round Tight Ends: 2008: #30 - Dustin Keller 2000: #27 - Anthony Becht 1995: #9 - Kyle Brady 1992: #15 Johnny Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Smith and Bakhtiari should be priorities for the LT position. Around the Super Bowl, there were talks of Donovan Smith wanting to finish out his career playing for the Jets. He grew up a Jets fan. Could be a cheaper option if they were still looking to draft a LT at 10. He has injury issues and not on the same talent level as Smith or Bakhtiari but has starting experience and could be solid depth / 6th lineman if they were to find another option via the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Today would be a great day to sign Tyron Smith. Speak this into existence JN. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyM Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, heymangold said: mike williams/boyd AND samuel - need 2 WRs. gotta get someone that can pretend to be a LT before the draft. bahktiari probably - that could open up some draft freedom (trade down) Can we stop with this Bahktiari nonsense? Guy's on one leg at this point in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Atlanta loading up. That offense should be fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Trade Zach Wilson for Desmond Ridder? Ridder is a better QB3 than some of the draft prospects projected to go on day 3. Plus it would free up some cap space. Atlanta's OC, Zac Robinson, is believed to be a QB whisperer that could try to fix Wilson. They could have a backup to Cousins that wouldn't challenge him for playing time. EDIT: Didn't see the news that he got traded before I posted this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Roster spots absolutely disappearing for Zach Wilson. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, T0mShane said: Roster spots absolutely disappearing for Zach Wilson. Getting cut or Jets QB3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 No need to lose any sleep. They didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Atlanta loading up. That offense should be fun. So Atlanta is Cousins and Heineke then, no developmental guy at all for 2024. Wonder if they'll pick a guy at QB late now to stash on their P.S. as a developmental kid. Will Ridder make the Cardinals roster? They have Clayton Tune, a guy I liked alot as a late-round dev. guy last year. If AZ prefers Ridder, and dumps Tune, could be a kid we could stash on OUR P.S. in 2024 perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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