Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted September 9 Popular Post Share Posted September 9 It's almost like, you shoudnt be an ignorant idiot and understand there is history around these incidents that tells a very familiar story; He was released after several minutes, but the incident was filmed by nearby fans and quickly went viral on social media. Hill said he didn't know why the situation escalated the way it did. "Right now, I'm still trying to put it all together ... I still don't know what happened," he said after the game. "But I do want to use this platform to say, 'What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill?' Worst-case scenario, you know? ... Everybody has bad apples in every situation, but I want to be able to use this platform to figure out a way to flip this and make it a positive on my end and Miami-Dade and do something positive for the community. "It's hard. I don't want to bring race into it, but sometimes it gets kind of iffy when you do. What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill? Lord knows what those guys would have done. I just wanted to make sure I was doing what my uncle always told me to do whenever you're in a situation like that -- put your hands on the steering wheel and just listen." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 The law will always favor the rich and famous. There is nothing to see here but another routine behavior from society. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted September 9 Popular Post Share Posted September 9 If the cop just held him for a few hours longer we might not be alone in last place. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nj meadowlands Posted September 9 Popular Post Share Posted September 9 Probably not a good idea to rough up someone worth $180 million in front of tons of cameras 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Sounds like he had a Scotty Scheffler type arrest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 13 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: Probably not a good idea to rough up someone worth $180 million in front of tons of cameras Apparently the idiot also put all world good guy, Calais Campbell in hand cuffs as well because he was "disrupting police procedure" by simply asking what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 if I was a player I would never be driving to games or to clubs-you make huge money get a driver.... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 48 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: It's almost like, you shoudnt be an ignorant idiot and understand there is history around these incidents that tells a very familiar story; He was released after several minutes, but the incident was filmed by nearby fans and quickly went viral on social media. Hill said he didn't know why the situation escalated the way it did. "Right now, I'm still trying to put it all together ... I still don't know what happened," he said after the game. "But I do want to use this platform to say, 'What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill?' Worst-case scenario, you know? ... Everybody has bad apples in every situation, but I want to be able to use this platform to figure out a way to flip this and make it a positive on my end and Miami-Dade and do something positive for the community. "It's hard. I don't want to bring race into it, but sometimes it gets kind of iffy when you do. What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill? Lord knows what those guys would have done. I just wanted to make sure I was doing what my uncle always told me to do whenever you're in a situation like that -- put your hands on the steering wheel and just listen." Damn, same exact things I told me sons. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 If you're a traffic cop on administrative leave does that mean you have to go into the office? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sonny Werblin Posted September 9 Popular Post Share Posted September 9 So, sadly I have been stopped by the police more than the average person for traffic violations. I speed., a lot. Fortunately, most of my traffic stops occur in states other than my home state., But I once even had to go to a class and take a written test to reduce my points to a level to keep my license. Despite my numerous roadside police interactions, I have never been asked to get out of my car, been handcuffed, or asked to consent to the search of my car. I have yet to find a black man who has a similar - get a ticket be on your way - experience with all of their traffic stops. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted September 9 Popular Post Share Posted September 9 12 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Damn, same exact things I told me sons. Hands on the wheel always. If asked for registration, say "I'm going to get it out of the glove box" (or wherever it is) and wait for the officer to confirm. Be polite, calm no matter if you are facing a calm or agitated officer. Your job is to end the situation cleanly and if there was any misconduct, deal with that afterwards via your attorney. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted September 9 Popular Post Share Posted September 9 The guy that escalated a fricken' TRAFFIC STOP to the point that two people were cuffed with one of them winding up on the ground would have been recommended for termination if he worked on my father's shift. Stupid. The job is "protect and serve", not be a petty tyrant. If a traffic stop is too stressful and frightening for you to de-escalate and handle professionally and courteously, then you chose the wrong career path. People go into Law Enforcement for a lot of reasons, and MANY of them don't really know what the job is or what it will entail. Same in the Fire Service. The trick is to weed them out early when you identify potential problems, but Municipal Unions create a lot of cases of "Negative Retention", and that goes for PD, FD, Teachers, etc. I had a "Firefighter" on my truck for a while that was literally terrified of going into... buildings on fire. He lasted 3 years on the job before he finally left - for another department that ran less fires. I don't know the answer, Law Enforcement is kinda' important, but the concept of hiring guys out of College who got a Criminal Justice degree but have never been in a bad neighborhood or a real fistfight in their lives is NOT working... nor is hiring anyone willing to do a difficult and stressful job for crap pay that just want authority... As to what happened when he was cuffed, in the Words of wisdom from my Grandfather (NYPD 1923-1966), passed to his sons, and eventually to me: "When the cuffs are on, the fight is over". 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Florida 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: The guy that escalated a fricken' TRAFFIC STOP to the point that two people were cuffed with one of them winding up on the ground would have been recommended for termination if he worked on my father's shift. Stupid. The job is "protect and serve", not be a petty tyrant. If a traffic stop is too stressful and frightening for you to de-escalate and handle professionally and courteously, then you chose the wrong career path. As to what happened when he was cuffed, in the Words of wisdom from my Grandfather (NYPD 1923-1966), passed to his sons, and eventually to me: "When the cuffs are on, the fight is over". Haha you neg rep’d me yesterday for calling the cop a dumb ass. Lmfao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Florida indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 59 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Sounds like he had a Scotty Scheffler type arrest. Not completely sure but i dont think Scotty was face down on the pavement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 28 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: Haha you neg rep’d me yesterday for calling the cop a dumb ass. Lmfao What a difference a day makes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 i am going to hold my judgement for the body cam footage. i am holding out hope the cop cant be that much of a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 35 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: The guy that escalated a fricken' TRAFFIC STOP to the point that two people were cuffed with one of them winding up on the ground would have been recommended for termination if he worked on my father's shift. Stupid. The job is "protect and serve", not be a petty tyrant. If a traffic stop is too stressful and frightening for you to de-escalate and handle professionally and courteously, then you chose the wrong career path. People go into Law Enforcement for a lot of reasons, and MANY of them don't really know what the job is or what it will entail. Same in the Fire Service. The trick is to weed them out early when you identify potential problems, but Municipal Unions create a lot of cases of "Negative Retention", and that goes for PD, FD, Teachers, etc. I had a "Firefighter" on my truck for a while that was literally terrified of going into... buildings on fire. He lasted 3 years on the job before he finally left - for another department that ran less fires. I don't know the answer, Law Enforcement is kinda' important, but the concept of hiring guys out of College who got a Criminal Justice degree but have never been in a bad neighborhood or a real fistfight in their lives is NOT working... nor is hiring anyone willing to do a difficult and stressful job for crap pay that just want authority... As to what happened when he was cuffed, in the Words of wisdom from my Grandfather (NYPD 1923-1966), passed to his sons, and eventually to me: "When the cuffs are on, the fight is over". One of my good friends says “wanting to be a cop should disqualify you from the job” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 31 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: Haha you neg rep’d me yesterday for calling the cop a dumb ass. Lmfao Yeah, I did. Because instead of going on a crusade for justice or whatever, I waited to see what happened instead of having a knee jerk reaction to a 10 second TikTok video. But you've never worn a uniform or done a dangerous job, so I suppose it's easy to make judgements like that so fast... Enjoy the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 36 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Florida Yeah. We have all the "bad cops" down Here. Unlike the storied and professional LEO'S of NYPD, LAPD, Detroit, Baltimore, Minneapolis.... they're all basically like Bobbies compared to "Florida"... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I would have been 4th Gen Law Enforcement if I went that route. When my dad asked me "Why the FD and not Police" back in 2000 or so, the answer was simple: Society hates the Police, and the media is making it worse. It's not going to be a good job for much longer. I can get the same pay and benefits, but when I show up, people say, "Thank God, the firemen are here" instead of, ****, the Cops.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 15 minutes ago, PS17 said: One of my good friends says “wanting to be a cop should disqualify you from the job” Growing up my dad told me over and over again, "Don't be a cop". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 11 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: I would have been 4th Gen Law Enforcement if I went that route. When my dad asked me "Why the FD and not Police" back in 2000 or so, the answer was simple: Society hates the Police, and the media is making it worse. It's not going to be a good job for much longer. I can get the same pay and benefits, but when I show up, people say, "Thank God, the firemen are here" instead of, ****, the Cops.... It's an impossible job and it's a thankless job. Still in many casses the Police are their own worst enemy. They protect the worst at the expense of the best when they should be weeding them out from within instead of protecting them in almost every case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 34 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Yeah, I did. Because instead of going on a crusade for justice or whatever, I waited to see what happened instead of having a knee jerk reaction to a 10 second TikTok video. But you've never worn a uniform or done a dangerous job, so I suppose it's easy to make judgements like that so fast... Enjoy the game. Cute. Or maybe...I saw multiple videos and read multiple different reports and knew what happened and understood the situation and was able to make a very simple and accurate reaction to an obvious mishandled situation. But yeah, tell me more about knee jerk reactions as you're doing a 180 today.... Oh and I used to wash windows on skyscrapers, I had to wear a uniform and it was very dangerous. I love you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jamesr Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Florida As a non-US person, it feels like "America" generally. On the few times I've been stopped while driving (in the UK) it was always a very civil affair with the police practically apologising for the inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 21 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: I would have been 4th Gen Law Enforcement if I went that route. When my dad asked me "Why the FD and not Police" back in 2000 or so, the answer was simple: Society hates the Police, and the media is making it worse. It's not going to be a good job for much longer. I can get the same pay and benefits, but when I show up, people say, "Thank God, the firemen are here" instead of, ****, the Cops.... Fwiw, nobody in that thread talked sh*t about the police or took general shots at policing or said they "hate the police". In fact, I specifically said my best friend is an ex-jersey cop and he is salt of the earth and also said, that 90% of these guys are wonderful humans. Nobody is in this thread, is behaving that way as well. I called the cop handling this, a dumbass. Why? Because he is. And simply pointed out a fact, that our country has a history of this behavior that cant be ignored and blaming it on the media is kind of silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, jamesr said: As a non-US person, it feels like "America" generally. On the few times I've been stopped while driving (in the UK) it was always a very civil affair with the police practically apologising for the inconvenience. The police in the UK aren't facing traffic stops with people who have loaded guns in their cars. This post should get this thread locked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I would still like to onow why nobody is talking about the kick the officer gave him. Its on video. I dont get it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Where joe w namath? We need his valuable insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 4 minutes ago, Biggs said: The police in the UK aren't facing traffic stops with people who have loaded guns in their cars. This post should get this thread locked It should hardly be locked over that. Have you ever watched how European police deal with a guy wielding a knife they take their time and eventually it ends well unlike in the US where the cops starts screaming like maniacs and then they unload their entire clip give me a break. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t think that US cops Are out of control 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Where joe w namath? We need his valuable insight No, we certainly don't need that. At all, at anytime. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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