Reddick Killed Deal that Joe Douglas and Reps had in Place

[JetNation]

After months of being under the impression that the Jets and Joe Douglas haven’t made any effort to get defensive star Haason Reddick under contract, NFL insider Ian Rapoport says that’s not the case.

In fact, Rapoport says that Joe Douglas and Reddick’s reps had an agreed upon deal in place before the player shot it down.  There are no detailed specifics on what the deal would have entailed other than the fact that it would have been a pay raise for Reddick.  The deal would have also allowed Reddick to recoup all of the fine money he had incurred up to that point according to Rapoport.

“The deal was all but worked out with his former agents at CAA and Jets management, sources say. Reddick, who is on the hook for millions and millions in fines, had a contract offer that would have given him the opportunity to make up for the fines and make more money than he was originally scheduled to earn.”

Now the Reddick has been dropped by his representatives, it’s fair to say any new agency would have quite the headache on their hands with Reddick.

At this point he has cost himself more money in fines (almost $9 million) than he will ever make back with a new deal.  So no matter what happens, Reddick will walk away from the situation with significantly less money than he would have if he’d allowed his representatives to close the deal with the Jets.

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[Bronx]

Reddick ruined his career. 

 

 

[GangGreeninBetween]

Reddick is a headcase, but i wish he was on the field with McDonald. These 2 would be a threat on the field together, like a Freeney and Mathis duo from Indy back when Peyton was there.

[Larz]

If you look at his career he never got the big multi year deal. He thought with his consistent production that he had finally earned it. He felt he didn’t need to prove himself to anyone. He wanted 3 years not 1 

Total failure by JD to assess the basic plot here. 

[Creepy Lurker]

What the hell? That was literally the ideal situation for both parties and would have been idiotic if JD didn’t plant to do that. I think this is just the case of being a crazy samurai and nothing more. 

[Integrity28]

[LionelRichie]

23 minutes ago, Larz said:

If you look at his career he never got the big multi year deal. He thought with his consistent production that he had finally earned it. He felt he didn’t need to prove himself to anyone. He wanted 3 years not 1 

Total failure by JD to assess the basic plot here. 

JDs position hasn’t changed: show up and we’ll talk.  The eagles wouldn’t extend him so why should we sight unseen?   

[Larz]

I mean you guys know why he was available for trade, right ?

where is the precedent for finalizing a trade with another team but only having a verbal agreement to negotiate the extension months later with the player?

a star player producing at elite levels over multiple years? 
 

I can’t think of one. 
 

Reddick wanted 3/25. 
 

If you aren’t paying that you don’t trade for him and try to squeeze his nuts in a vice 

 

The agent agreed to the 1 year raise because it meant a commission, not that it was what the client wanted 

[Larz]

5 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

JDs position hasn’t changed: show up and we’ll talk.  The eagles wouldn’t extend him so why should we sight unseen?   

That’s clearly not the point. The point is he had no agreement with the player when he finalized with the team. 
 

 

[AFJF]

32 minutes ago, Larz said:

If you look at his career he never got the big multi year deal. He thought with his consistent production that he had finally earned it. He felt he didn’t need to prove himself to anyone. He wanted 3 years not 1 

Total failure by JD to assess the basic plot here. 

Agents accepted the offer.  Player is insane.

[Larz]

Just now, AFJF said:

Agents accepted the offer.  Player is insane.

You can’t be serious with this 

[AFJF]

9 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

JDs position hasn’t changed: show up and we’ll talk.  The eagles wouldn’t extend him so why should we sight unseen?   

And Joe D. eventually balked, offering him a pay raise and a shot to wipe out all the fines without him showing up.  Probably figured that if he caved and offered a pay raise and wiped out the fines it would get the deal done.  The agents agreed to the deal and the player is crazy.

[LionelRichie]

Just now, AFJF said:

And Joe D. eventually balked, offering him a pay raise and a shot to wipe out all the fines without him showing up.  Probably figured that if he caved and offered a pay raise and wiped out the fines it would get the deal done.  The agents agreed to the deal and the player is crazy.

Or this is CAA try to cover their asses with a leak to rapaport.   No one knows what deal was or wasn’t in place.  

[Adoni Beast]

Between this and the lawsuit against Reddick, the Jets need to hire some private investigator team for free agents and trades. I don’t envision any scenario where this guy ever plays a down for us. Burning 3rd round picks like they’re going out of style.

[LionelRichie]

6 minutes ago, Larz said:

That’s clearly not the point. The point is he had no agreement with the player when he finalized with the team. 
 

 

So what?   The player had a contract.   There’s no requirement to redo the contract although JD indicated a willingness to once he showed up.   The structure of the trade with the future 3 was probabaly designed for a 1-year rental with a pay bump and JD would get 4 back in a comp pick when reddick left via FA. 

[Trotter]

Makes woodys comments the other day very bizarre.

if the offer is accurate what more is woody thinking telling him to come up here and we will work it out?

woody going to give him multiple years guaranteed?

something is off

[Larz]

1 minute ago, LionelRichie said:

So what?   The player had a contract.   There’s no requirement to redo the contract although JD indicated a willingness to once he showed up.   The structure of the trade with the future 3 was probabaly designed for a 1-year rental with a pay bump and JD would get 4 back in a comp pick when reddick left via FA. 

So what ? lol ok. 

[Rangers9]

Look the bottom line is that Reddick doesn't want to play pro football if he doesn't get salary he wants. Maybe he just doesn't think it's worth the risks.

[C Mart]

16 minutes ago, Larz said:

You can’t be serious with this 

I would think the agent talks to the client to get an idea what the player wants / will accept whether $$, term, or combination of. That doesn't mean the player for whatever reason won't change his mind.  Again go back to Reddick's intro presser.  The constant slamming of JD over this is ridiculous.  If people haven't figured out there is something far deeper going on w/Reddick well keep blaming JD

[ARodJetsFan]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

Reddick ruined his career. 

 

 

Reddick's an afterthought at this point.

He has no bearing on this team whatsoever.

[CanadaSteve]

47 minutes ago, Larz said:

If you look at his career he never got the big multi year deal. He thought with his consistent production that he had finally earned it. He felt he didn’t need to prove himself to anyone. He wanted 3 years not 1 

Total failure by JD to assess the basic plot here. 

We get it: you don't like Douglas. 

IF this information is true, this is not on Douglas, nor is it on his agent.  This is squarely on Reddick going back on his word and being a complete head-case.  

Make like Frozen, and 

[The Voice of Reason]

1 hour ago, JetNation said:

After months of being under the impression that the Jets and Joe Douglas haven’t made any effort to get defensive star Haason Reddick under contract, NFL insider Ian Rapoport says that’s not the case.

In fact, Rapoport says that Joe Douglas and Reddick’s reps had an agreed upon deal in place before the player shot it down.  There are no detailed specifics on what the deal would have entailed other than the fact that it would have been a pay raise for Reddick.  The deal would have also allowed Reddick to recoup all of the fine money he had incurred up to that point according to Rapoport.

“The deal was all but worked out with his former agents at CAA and Jets management, sources say. Reddick, who is on the hook for millions and millions in fines, had a contract offer that would have given him the opportunity to make up for the fines and make more money than he was originally scheduled to earn.”

Now the Reddick has been dropped by his representatives, it’s fair to say any new agency would have quite the headache on their hands with Reddick.

At this point he has cost himself more money in fines (almost $9 million) than he will ever make back with a new deal.  So no matter what happens, Reddick will walk away from the situation with significantly less money than he would have if he’d allowed his representatives to close the deal with the Jets.

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Yet there are so many here still trying to blame JD... 

[C Mart]

Per Rappaport:

Currently the only NFL player holding out, Reddick must report by Week 13 to receive an accrued season, or his contract will toll and everyone will be in the same situation next year.

[Larz]

Just now, C Mart said:

I would think the agent talks to the client to get an idea what the player wants / will accept whether $$, term, or combination of. That doesn't mean the player for whatever reason changes his mind.  Again go back to Reddick's intro presser.  The constant slamming of JD over this is ridiculous.  If people haven't figured out there is something far deeper going on w/Reddick well keep blaming JD

Far deeper than wanting a final big payday of 3/25 but getting offered 1/22 or whatever? 
 

If you ask the other 31 GMs “who is the dummy here?” It’s a shutout. 31-0 it’s JD 

If you are buying a house and the sellers agent agrees to your offer but says the seller wants a LOT more, do you sell your house expecting to be able to squeeze the seller down months later?

no, you don’t. You get it in writing. 

[C Mart]

Just now, Larz said:

Far deeper than wanting a final big payday of 3/25 but getting offered 1/22 or whatever? 
 

If you ask the other 31 GMs “who is the dummy here?” It’s a shutout. 31-0 it’s JD 

If you are buying a house and the sellers agent agrees to your offer but says the seller wants a LOT more, do you sell your house expecting to be able to squeeze the seller down months later?

no, you don’t. You get it in writing. 

Prove that...Show me the 31-0 proof

[Larz]

2 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

We get it: you don't like Douglas. 

IF this information is true, this is not on Douglas, nor is it on his agent.  This is squarely on Reddick going back on his word and being a complete head-case.  

Make like Frozen, and 

I don’t like accepting verbal agreements when the standard for 100 years is written.  JD did a dummy. It’s pretty obvious 

[The Voice of Reason]

10 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Makes woodys comments the other day very bizarre.

if the offer is accurate what more is woody thinking telling him to come up here and we will work it out?

woody going to give him multiple years guaranteed?

something is off

All he asked was for Reddick to show up... That doesn't disagree with this report in any way 

[Green Ghost]

1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said:

Reddick's an afterthought at this point.

He has no bearing on this team whatsoever.

And yet….

The owner said this week he wants him on the team The GM traded a conditional 2nd (now a 3rd) for him  The DL hasn’t been good.There are 10 threads discussing why he’s not.

I’d say he has plenty of bearing on the team.

[Larz]

Just now, C Mart said:

Prove that...Show me the 31-0 proof

Flaccid argument at best. 
 

make the case it’s 31-0 Reddick 

[Dunnie]

I say just forget about this guy ... He's obviously done with football.

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[C Mart]

Just now, Larz said:

Flaccid argument at best. 
 

make the case it’s 31-0 Reddick 

Judon, same situation as Reddick, was traded to Atlanta. No extension, yet. 

[BCJet]

54 minutes ago, Larz said:

If you look at his career he never got the big multi year deal. He thought with his consistent production that he had finally earned it. He felt he didn’t need to prove himself to anyone. He wanted 3 years not 1 

Total failure by JD to assess the basic plot here. 

Failure by JD to assess the situation?  So JD went after a player with 50 sacks in the past 4 years, only paid a 3rd round pick because the entire league knew he wanted more money, then gave him more money which the players own agents advised him to take and he did a bad job?

Im amazed at how people can look at this.  Reddick's holdout is not something that could  have been considered when JD looked at all the possible outcomes, it is a complete abberation that what will likely turn out to be the worst holdout in the history of the NFL, 

[C Mart]

8 minutes ago, Larz said:

Far deeper than wanting a final big payday of 3/25 but getting offered 1/22 or whatever? 
 

If you ask the other 31 GMs “who is the dummy here?” It’s a shutout. 31-0 it’s JD 

If you are buying a house and the sellers agent agrees to your offer but says the seller wants a LOT more, do you sell your house expecting to be able to squeeze the seller down months later?

no, you don’t. You get it in writing. 

As you go get your 31-0 proof. Ask the GMs if any think Reddick's is getting 3/25 in '24.  Give me that tally.  So since it will easily be a NO (I would guess his agent did that). What is Reddick gaining now?  0......While losing $800k every week

[Larz]

Watt is going to get 5/140

Myles Garrett signed a five year, $125 million contract extension with the Browns. Garrett received $50 million in full guarantees at signing and $100 million is guaranteed in total. Garrett received a $21 million signing bonus and his 2020 and 2021 base salaries are fully guaranteed.

Nick Bosa signed a five year, $170 million contract extension with the 49ers on September 8, 2023. Bosa received $122.5 million in guarantees of which $88 million is fully guaranteed at signing. Bosa received a $50 million signing bonus and his 2023 base salary is guaranteed

Maxx Crosby signed a four year, $94 million contract with the Raiders on March 11, 2022. Crosby received $53 million in guarantees of which $26.515 million is fully guaranteed at signing according to Pro Football Talk. 

Trey Hendrickson signed a 4 year contract worth $60 million with the Bengals. Hendrickson received $16 million in guarantees including a $10 million signing bonus. 
 

 

 

******* JD slapped the hood of the car and “how’s 1 year ?” 
 

literally nobody reading this thread would buy anything worth more than $1,000 without something in writing. 

[Larz]

2 minutes ago, C Mart said:

As you go get your 31-0 proof. Ask the GMs if any think Reddick's is getting 3/25 in '24.  Give me that tally.  So since it will easily be a NO (I would guess his agent did that). What is Reddick gaining now?  0......While losing $800k every week

That’s

not

the

point