Irish Jet Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Depends, Revis is slightly more, however Cutler's positional value just about evens it out and actually puts him slightly ahead. That being said, elite player-for-player deals are ridiculously rare (I've been studying to the bone lately, so my memory's hazy, but I'm fairly certain it's only happened once in the salary cap era), and it's easier to believe that a deal will consist mostly of picks. Weren't the Broncos involved in one a few years back, Bailey for Portis? Revis will not be traded though. People need to remember the aforementioned Champ Bailey is still there and although Denver need help on D, not at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Why would he? Teams aren't gonna be lining up to sign him. You've got far more established QBs available via free agency now. Clemens would be a moron to demand his release. The only team he has any value to right now is the Jets. If they don't get Cutler, he is competing for the starting job which he will most likely win. If they do get Cutler, he will be an enormous help in helping Cutler learn the offense. Believe it or not, there have been plenty of guys who made damn nice careers of being backup QBs in this league. Gary Kubiak was Elway's backup and eventually his QB coach, now he's a HC. If it's not going to happen for Clemens as a starter, he could do a lot worse than being a 10-year backup with the same team. He would have been passed over twice. He says he never been given a chance. If the whole Cutler thing goes down, it would say that the Jets have little confidence in Clemens. Farve was suppose to school Clemens and now its happened again. I'd tell the Jets to F off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Why so when people disagree with the all out lunacy that has taken over you can smite them for having a different opinion? This thread looks like it was started by Paris ****ing Hilton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 He would have been passed over twice. He says he never been given a chance. If the whole Cutler thing goes down, it would say that the Jets have little confidence in Clemens. Farve was suppose to school Clemens and now its happened again. I'd tell the Jets to F off. And if you were in Clemens position, you would be an idiot for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Why so when people disagree with the all out lunacy that has taken over you can smite them for having a different opinion? The fact that you disagree is not an issue. The manner in which you voice your disagreement is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The fact that you disagree is not an issue. The manner in which you voice your disagreement is. That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Didn't you get memo? 10-6 a fine season for pats but just miss playoffs sorry Well, it was a good run while it lasted. CrashingJet will probably let you bunk at his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLs StepChild Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 This thread looks like it was started by Paris ****ing Hilton! I wrote it that way cause people here are acting like a bunch of little school girls. Yes. Cutler is good. Yes I'd like to see him here FOR A REASONABLE DEAL! But this all out circle jerk for this guy and the refusal to see his obvious flaws is beyond f*<king ridiculous. People getting ready to throw everything at the Broncos for the chance on a guy with some serious issues is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 He would have been passed over twice. He says he never been given a chance. If the whole Cutler thing goes down, it would say that the Jets have little confidence in Clemens. Farve was suppose to school Clemens and now its happened again. I'd tell the Jets to F off. If Clemens isn't going to start for the Jets he's probably not going to start for anyone else ... so why not wait a year and hit the open market ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Weren't the Broncos involved in one a few years back, Bailey for Portis? Revis will not be traded though. People need to remember the aforementioned Champ Bailey is still there and although Denver need help on D, not at CB. Yes, that's the one I was referring to. And I agree with the second part; Revis is ridiculous, but with how bad they are on D, Cutler's value affords them the opportunity to upgrade positions that are far, far worse off for them right now. They'd be able to justify it because of how good he is, but it makes more sense to go after picks from their position if it's a 2-team deal with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 And if you were in Clemens position, you would be an idiot for doing so. You would be an idiot for staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The fact that you disagree is not an issue. The manner in which you voice your disagreement is. +1 There's really no reason to start a thread specifically to disagree with a topic that is currently under discussion in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I wrote it that way cause people here are acting like a bunch of little school girls. Yes. Cutler is good. Yes I'd like to see him here FOR A REASONABLE DEAL! But this all out circle jerk for this guy and the refusal to see his obvious flaws is beyond f*<king ridiculous. People getting ready to throw everything at the Broncos for the chance on a guy with some serious issues is idiotic. Pound some salt skippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Weren't the Broncos involved in one a few years back, Bailey for Portis? Revis will not be traded though. People need to remember the aforementioned Champ Bailey is still there and although Denver need help on D, not at CB. Champ Bailey is 30 years old and is coming off of numerous injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Champ Bailey is 30 years old and is coming off of numerous injuries. denver does not want to pay Revis Nmane A coin I can't spell his phucking name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 If Clemens isn't going to start for the Jets he's probably not going to start for anyone else ... so why not wait a year and hit the open market ... Self respect. Maybe he can play? Has he really been given a fair shot? Also, it just 1 more season wasted. Just get on with it and part ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLs StepChild Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The fact that you disagree is not an issue. The manner in which you voice your disagreement is. Please if I were on the Cutler ball washing brigade, any over the top absurd enthusiasm would be welcome. But coming in with some over the top sarcasm is forbidden? I'll do my best to use verbiage from here on out that is in accordance with proper Oxford English. Point is simple, be smart, make a play, don't take away top picks for the franchise in doing it. In short DO NOT DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 denver does not want to pay Revis Nmane A coin I can't spell his phucking name Nnamdi how the **** do you get Nmane? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Let the games begin. Cutler could do wonders for this team. Obviously we do not want to overpay, but how many times does a team get the chance to pair up a dominant defense with a young franchise QB? It's amazing how many people are against this move. Get it done Tanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Self respect. Maybe he can play? Has he really been given a fair shot? rev up that trolling motor and ... go fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Self respect. I missed the memo where that dictated a player having actual trade value. Perhaps we can refer to it as The Fredo Principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Nnamdi how the **** do you get Nmane? LOL it was on the tip of my phucking tongue who names their kid NNamdi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Vick > Cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Champ Bailey is 30 years old and is coming off of numerous injuries. He's still one of the best. They will not be looking for a CB and I doubt the Jets will want to trade a player who's not only great, but one they just gave a $6M roster bonus to. It's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Vick > Cutler Tebow's new chick > Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I missed the memo where that dictated a player having actual trade value. Perhaps we can refer to it as The Fredo Principle. I'm smaaaaht!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The Jets better get him. or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I missed the memo where that dictated a player having actual trade value. Perhaps we can refer to it as The Fredo Principle. Trade/release whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 +1 There's really no reason to start a thread specifically to disagree with a topic that is currently under discussion in another thread. Agreed. Its the ultimate attention whore move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Please if I were on the Cutler ball washing brigade, any over the top absurd enthusiasm would be welcome. But coming in with some over the top sarcasm is forbidden? I'll do my best to use verbiage from here on out that is in accordance with proper Oxford English. Point is simple, be smart, make a play, don't take away top picks for the franchise in doing it. In short DO NOT DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. Relax, fans get emotional. I'm sure Tanny has it under control...he has a good track record with orchestrating trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Vick > Cutler In a swordfight??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 it was on the tip of my phucking tongue who names their kid NNamdi? Who names their kid Leprosy? But there was a kid who played for Florida State I believe a few years ago named Leprosy Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 NFC Championship Game > Never made the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Trade/release whatever. "Mr. T, I'd like to be released." "On what grounds?" "Self-respect, I'm invoking The Fredo Principle of common contract law." "Oh, no problem Kellen, don't do that. We'll get it done by the close of business today." Yeah, definitely sounds reasonable. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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