joewilly Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 well, we could very easily. It could be said that on paper we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Nope, we'll have a good running game again. That will carry the offense. The fact that we have Schotty still here worries me though along with the issues at QB and WR. We will not be the worst though, our O-line is far too good for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Well, you will eventually need somebody to throw the ball on offense... Has that been squared away yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Nope, we'll have a good running game again. That will carry the offense. The fact that we have Schotty still here worries me though along with the issues at QB and WR. We will not be the worst though, our O-line is far too good for that. make no mistake.......we have a good o-line but we look to be one of the worst offenses in the league right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 we're not pretty looking thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 What makes the 2008 Baltimore Ravens offense on paper look any sexier? Quarterback -- Baltimore Joe Flacco is a sexier name than Kellen Clemens or Brett Ratliff because he was a 1st round pick, but all three were unknown -- Flacco coming into 2008, Clemens and Ratliff coming into 2009. For now, BAL has the edge. Backfield -- Slight edge to Jets BAL: Willis McGahee, Ray Rice, LeRon McClain NYJ: Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, Tony Richardson Wide Receivers/Tight Ends -- Slight edge to Baltimore BAL: Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton, Yamon Figurs, Todd Heap NYJ: Jerricho Cotchery, David Clowney, Chansi Stuckey, Dustin Keller Offensive Line -- Jets BAL: Jared Gaither, Ben Grubbs, Jason Brown, Chris Chester, Willie Anderson NYJ: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Alan Faneca, Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, Damien Woody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I kind of agree. I think we have an above average o line and rb's. Which should be able to carry the team. But, we won't be able to run with 8 guys in the box. We have to have some sort of weapons for the passing game or it won't matter who we have back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 guys we're jet fans. this shouldn't be hard for any of us. we go into the season convinced we have the worst offense ever in the nfl. anything good that happens on the field will be a pleasant surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I kind of agree. I think we have an above average o line and rb's. Which should be able to carry the team. But, we won't be able to run with 8 guys in the box. We have to have some sort of weapons for the passing game or it won't matter who we have back there. All we need to do is have the QB do just enough to keep the defense back. We really don't need more than 20 passes from the QB to win. This team is going to be a lot like the 2004 Steelers, 2008 Ravens and other run first, run second and maybe pass third teams of the past. We are going to run the football down a defenses throat until they can prove that they can stop it consistently enough for us that we're not scoring. It will be frustrating at times, but that is what we're going to be doing so we best get used to it. You wanted Rex Ryan? You got Rex Ryan and his teams. Get ready for a ton of 10-6, 13-10 games and winning by RUNNING NOT THROWING and defense, during this regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 last year the jets offense was great and lookey what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdropOFvenom Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I don't think we have enough in the Passing Game right now to keep those Defenses honest, they'll stack the box against the run until we prove ourselves capable of beating it. We really need that explosive option at WR to make them pay for that, which I'm hopeful is where our 1st round pick is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 and what happens if the Jets struggle running the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 We still wont be the worst offense in the AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 so favre and coles are irreplaceable ? and baker too ? favre carried the jets maybe twice last year, and coles and baker can easily be replaced QB is still a huge concern, but coles can be replaced by a number of veterans and baker already has been replaced we may still sign veteran WR's after the draft, and we'll certainly land 1 or 2 in the draft winning with defense and a running game can work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 well, we could very easily. It could be said that on paper we are. For future reference, anything you need to qualify with three 'coulds' isn't worth saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 For future reference, anything you need to qualify with three 'coulds' isn't worth saying. thanks, I coulda used this info an hour ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Cotchery's good for 1,000 yards but everyone else on the WR core... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 so favre and coles are irreplaceable ? and baker too ? favre carried the jets maybe twice last year, and coles and baker can easily be replaced QB is still a huge concern, but coles can be replaced by a number of veterans and baker already has been replaced we may still sign veteran WR's after the draft, and we'll certainly land 1 or 2 in the draft winning with defense and a running game can work You better hope so. The running game will only be as effective as your QB. If he cannot keep the opposing Ds honest, then the Jets are going to struggle offensively. The Jets D should be improved, but I doubt it is at Baltimore's level. The Ravens were able to win with a rookie QB because of a great D. The other team rarely scored over 17 points. If the Jets D can do this the team will be ok. If not, trouble. We still wont be the worst offense in the AFCE. Did Detroit join the AFC East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFootball56 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 What makes the 2008 Baltimore Ravens offense on paper look any sexier? Quarterback -- Baltimore Joe Flacco is a sexier name than Kellen Clemens or Brett Ratliff because he was a 1st round pick, but all three were unknown -- Flacco coming into 2008, Clemens and Ratliff coming into 2009. For now, BAL has the edge. Backfield -- Slight edge to Jets BAL: Willis McGahee, Ray Rice, LeRon McClain NYJ: Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, Tony Richardson Wide Receivers/Tight Ends -- Slight edge to Baltimore BAL: Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton, Yamon Figurs, Todd Heap NYJ: Jerricho Cotchery, David Clowney, Chansi Stuckey, Dustin Keller Offensive Line -- Jets BAL: Jared Gaither, Ben Grubbs, Jason Brown, Chris Chester, Willie Anderson NYJ: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Alan Faneca, Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, Damien Woody The Ravens offense didn't get them to the AFC Championship game either.. Also.. Our WR's are much, much worse on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 1 word: wing-t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 well, we could very easily. It could be said that on paper we are. We're set on every position except QB, and we need 1 or 2 WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 so favre and coles are irreplaceable ? and baker too ? favre carried the jets maybe twice last year, and coles and baker can easily be replaced QB is still a huge concern, but coles can be replaced by a number of veterans and baker already has been replaced we may still sign veteran WR's after the draft, and we'll certainly land 1 or 2 in the draft winning with defense and a running game can work We can probably get a better blocking TE than Baker, who was overrated in that area. He was merely average. We have to get a credible wideout. Someone who can shake a corner playing man defense. I think we have people who can throw. Let's see what BS does with them. I am not as down on our QBs as some here. Until they fail, I adopt a wait and see attitude. Clemens did nto fail. He was put in a meat grinder. Maybe he did not look good, but I do not consider that a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFootball56 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We can probably get a better blocking TE than Baker, who was overrated in that area. He was merely average. We have to get a credible wideout. Someone who can shake a corner playing man defense. I think we have people who can throw. Let's see what BS does with them. I am not as down on our QBs as some here. Until they fail, I adopt a wait and see attitude. Clemens did nto fail. He was put in a meat grinder. Maybe he did not look good, but I do not consider that a failure. Kellen Clemens showed the Jets NOTHING during his 7 games starting.. How is that not considered a failure?? He got his opportunity... He blew it.. He shouldn't get another opportunity, but he probably will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 We still wont be the worst offense in the AFCE. Depends, are we going by stats or by the someonepleasestabmeintheface scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman1 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 well, we could very easily. It could be said that on paper we are. Well,we COULD be the best.We'll just have to wait and see(unless you have a hopped up DeLorean stashed somewhere........). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Kellen Clemens showed the Jets NOTHING during his 7 games starting.. How is that not considered a failure?? He got his opportunity... He blew it.. He shouldn't get another opportunity, but he probably will. I hate to break it to you but the 2007 Jets sucked. The offensive line was horrible. Kellen deserves a chance to play behind a decent o-line before people throw him under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman1 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I hate to break it to you but the 2007 Jets sucked. The offensive line was horrible. Kellen deserves a chance to play behind a decent o-line before people throw him under the bus. Exactly......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Exactly......... I have a soft spot for the guy because I saw him get absolutely crushed by Richard Seymour in Foxboro that season. He had about .25 seconds to get rid of the ball as Clement (I think it was him) didn't bother to touch Seymour on the play. Plus he beat Pittsburgh that year and thats always a good thing in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Thomas Jones is not a great running attack....I promise We need a bruiser.....Beanie Wells would look great wearing Green and White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFootball56 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I hate to break it to you but the 2007 Jets sucked. The offensive line was horrible. Kellen deserves a chance to play behind a decent o-line before people throw him under the bus. That doesn't change the fact that he showed nothing. He was downright erratic, even when he did have time.. Kellen Clemens isn't anything special..... He's basically a version of Chase Daniel that never had the opportunity to be exposed on national tv. There was no way he should have ever been drafted in the 2nd round.... How many mediocre QB's from a spread offense that were injured most of their senior season get selected in the first day???? Nobody in the Jets brass is rooting for Kellen Clemens... Lets not forget he was given every chance in camp last season to win the starting job and by all accounts performed horribly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Thomas Jones is not a great running attack....I promise We need a bruiser.....Beanie Wells would look great wearing Green and White Despite his size, i never thought of Beanie Wells even in the conversation of a bruising runningback. He plays far too soft. I think he's a fantastic prospect and would be a great addition, but as far as a bruiser goes, I personally don't think he's that. He is a much better version of michael bush, but plays very similar to it. Both have great size and speed, but don't pay nearly as big as their size should indicate. If he could have the same demeanor as a marion barber, he'd be near unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 That doesn't change the fact that he showed nothing. He was downright erratic, even when he did have time.. Kellen Clemens isn't anything special..... He's basically a version of Chase Daniel that never had the opportunity to be exposed on national tv. There was no way he should have ever been drafted in the 2nd round.... How many mediocre QB's from a spread offense that were injured most of their senior season get selected in the first day???? Nobody in the Jets brass is rooting for Kellen Clemens... Lets not forget he was given every chance in camp last season to win the starting job and by all accounts performed horribly.. I'm rooting for the Rat but be fair to Clemens. The O-line sucked and he was constantly under pressure. I don't remember him having more than 3 seconds to get rid of the rock EVER that year. The starting running back on this god forsaken team had one rushing touchdown all year ONE!, defense wasn't helping much (an exception or two), and when Coles was in, Cotch tended to be out - when Cotch was in, Coles tended to be out. I'm not going to write him off. He played what, eight games? Ok so now all we need to decide he's a bum is the fact that he played poorly on an AWFUL team for an amazingly long period of eight games, in a season where he wasn't anticipating being the starter? Then the next year in camp he wasn't beating out a QB with several playoff appearances, who ended up deserving a pro-bowl nod? I remember thinking Eli Manning sucked too. There was more than one year that he looked like one of the worst and Giants fans were calling for his head. I specifically remember thinking I'd rather have Grossman over Eli. Now all of the sudden this guy is a top 10 QB in this league. I'm not saying Clemens is good. Not saying that at all. But god, what did you expect him to look like in his first eight starts? What would you want, you want him to look like Flacco's rookie season? You've got to take into account the team he was playing with. What was he supposed to do, wish away the constant pass rush? Turn Justin McDroppins into Jerry Rice? Push TJ into the endzone? Be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 well, we could very easily. It could be said that on paper we are. This is why we need negative rep back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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