Kentucky Jet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Rex Ryan Reaches Out To Steve Young Quote: INDIANAPOLIS – Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young said he was surprised when his phone rang last month and it was Jets head coach Rex Ryan calling. Ryan reached out to Young for clarification on something the ESPN analyst said on the air about Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez struggling to reach his potential under Ryan. Young said Ryan called and asked him, "What the heck are you talking about?" "I think it was a great conversation, really open," Young said Saturday. "I hung up and was like, 'I really respect that guy that he would call, that he would listen.' I'm sure he was like, 'maybe Steve Young's crazy,' but at least have the conversation. Him saying to me, 'I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my spot and I heard you.' I thought it was great." Young, who is part of the four-hour "Sunday NFL Countdown" show on ESPN to preview the Super Bowl on Sunday, said he spoke to Ryan about how offenses struggle under defensive-minded head coaches. Young played for one in George Seifert with the 49ers. "My fundamental premise is I have watched and experienced defensive-minded head coaches and their effect on offense," Young said. "I watched his dad [former Eagles and Cardinals coach Buddy Ryan], and I talked to him about this, and he admitted he is the same way, 'I'm a defensive coach. I coach great defense. That's what I know.' What happens is the premise is great offense needs light and sunshine. Great defense doesn't. It just doesn't. He brings great sunshine and light to his defense because that's what he knows and that's how he coaches, that's how he practices, that's how he talks. Then what happens is the offense that needs sunshine and light doesn't get it." Young explained to him that he needs to pay more attention to his offense and his quarterback, in particular. That doesn't mean just sitting in meeting rooms either. "I think we came to an understanding," Young said. "He said 'I don't feel like I know offense and I don't have the right to go in there.' I said it's not really about that because George Seifert tried to do that. He said you guys were a phenomenal offense with George and I gave him some insight." The two then talked about some different teams and coaches around the league who have gone through similar transitions. "We got to talking about [Patriots coach] Bill Belichick," Young said. "Something happened between Cleveland and the first couple of years in Boston. He had the same struggles in Cleveland. Something happened there that allowed him to make that transition." They also discussed the Ravens, where Ryan was the defensive coordinator for four seasons before coming to the Jets. "We got talking about Baltimore," Young said. "I think they've suffered and still suffer from strong personalities on their defense who don't mean trouble but they'll say to the offense, 'don't screw it up. If you don't screw this up, we win.' Then you call plays to not screw it up. Then you run plays not to screw it up. Then you play not to screw it up. I think the Jets are in that mold right now where the defense is like, 'don't screw it up.' I think it affects the way people play, the way they practice, the way they call plays. Our conversation was all about that." Young said this was the first time a head coach has reached out to him about something he has said on the air. "I thought it was great," Young said. "I was grateful for the chance to talk it out. In TV, I don't even get to say it right. … I was very impressed with his openness to philosophically what I was trying to say." http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/jetsbl...#ixzz1lRTiifs4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Rex Ryan Reaches Out To Steve Young Quote: INDIANAPOLIS – Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young said he was surprised when his phone rang last month and it was Jets head coach Rex Ryan calling. Ryan reached out to Young for clarification on something the ESPN analyst said on the air about Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez struggling to reach his potential under Ryan. Young said Ryan called and asked him, "What the heck are you talking about?" "I think it was a great conversation, really open," Young said Saturday. "I hung up and was like, 'I really respect that guy that he would call, that he would listen.' I'm sure he was like, 'maybe Steve Young's crazy,' but at least have the conversation. Him saying to me, 'I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my spot and I heard you.' I thought it was great." Young, who is part of the four-hour "Sunday NFL Countdown" show on ESPN to preview the Super Bowl on Sunday, said he spoke to Ryan about how offenses struggle under defensive-minded head coaches. Young played for one in George Seifert with the 49ers. "My fundamental premise is I have watched and experienced defensive-minded head coaches and their effect on offense," Young said. "I watched his dad [former Eagles and Cardinals coach Buddy Ryan], and I talked to him about this, and he admitted he is the same way, 'I'm a defensive coach. I coach great defense. That's what I know.' What happens is the premise is great offense needs light and sunshine. Great defense doesn't. It just doesn't. He brings great sunshine and light to his defense because that's what he knows and that's how he coaches, that's how he practices, that's how he talks. Then what happens is the offense that needs sunshine and light doesn't get it." Young explained to him that he needs to pay more attention to his offense and his quarterback, in particular. That doesn't mean just sitting in meeting rooms either. "I think we came to an understanding," Young said. "He said 'I don't feel like I know offense and I don't have the right to go in there.' I said it's not really about that because George Seifert tried to do that. He said you guys were a phenomenal offense with George and I gave him some insight." The two then talked about some different teams and coaches around the league who have gone through similar transitions. "We got to talking about [Patriots coach] Bill Belichick," Young said. "Something happened between Cleveland and the first couple of years in Boston. He had the same struggles in Cleveland. Something happened there that allowed him to make that transition." They also discussed the Ravens, where Ryan was the defensive coordinator for four seasons before coming to the Jets. "We got talking about Baltimore," Young said. "I think they've suffered and still suffer from strong personalities on their defense who don't mean trouble but they'll say to the offense, 'don't screw it up. If you don't screw this up, we win.' Then you call plays to not screw it up. Then you run plays not to screw it up. Then you play not to screw it up. I think the Jets are in that mold right now where the defense is like, 'don't screw it up.' I think it affects the way people play, the way they practice, the way they call plays. Our conversation was all about that." Young said this was the first time a head coach has reached out to him about something he has said on the air. "I thought it was great," Young said. "I was grateful for the chance to talk it out. In TV, I don't even get to say it right. … I was very impressed with his openness to philosophically what I was trying to say." http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/jetsbl...#ixzz1lRTiifs4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Rex Ryan Reaches Out To Steve Young Quote: INDIANAPOLIS – Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young said he was surprised when his phone rang last month and it was Jets head coach Rex Ryan calling. Ryan reached out to Young for clarification on something the ESPN analyst said on the air about Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez struggling to reach his potential under Ryan. Young said Ryan called and asked him, "What the heck are you talking about?" "I think it was a great conversation, really open," Young said Saturday. "I hung up and was like, 'I really respect that guy that he would call, that he would listen.' I'm sure he was like, 'maybe Steve Young's crazy,' but at least have the conversation. Him saying to me, 'I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my spot and I heard you.' I thought it was great." Young, who is part of the four-hour "Sunday NFL Countdown" show on ESPN to preview the Super Bowl on Sunday, said he spoke to Ryan about how offenses struggle under defensive-minded head coaches. Young played for one in George Seifert with the 49ers. "My fundamental premise is I have watched and experienced defensive-minded head coaches and their effect on offense," Young said. "I watched his dad [former Eagles and Cardinals coach Buddy Ryan], and I talked to him about this, and he admitted he is the same way, 'I'm a defensive coach. I coach great defense. That's what I know.' What happens is the premise is great offense needs light and sunshine. Great defense doesn't. It just doesn't. He brings great sunshine and light to his defense because that's what he knows and that's how he coaches, that's how he practices, that's how he talks. Then what happens is the offense that needs sunshine and light doesn't get it." Young explained to him that he needs to pay more attention to his offense and his quarterback, in particular. That doesn't mean just sitting in meeting rooms either. "I think we came to an understanding," Young said. "He said 'I don't feel like I know offense and I don't have the right to go in there.' I said it's not really about that because George Seifert tried to do that. He said you guys were a phenomenal offense with George and I gave him some insight." The two then talked about some different teams and coaches around the league who have gone through similar transitions. "We got to talking about [Patriots coach] Bill Belichick," Young said. "Something happened between Cleveland and the first couple of years in Boston. He had the same struggles in Cleveland. Something happened there that allowed him to make that transition." They also discussed the Ravens, where Ryan was the defensive coordinator for four seasons before coming to the Jets. "We got talking about Baltimore," Young said. "I think they've suffered and still suffer from strong personalities on their defense who don't mean trouble but they'll say to the offense, 'don't screw it up. If you don't screw this up, we win.' Then you call plays to not screw it up. Then you run plays not to screw it up. Then you play not to screw it up. I think the Jets are in that mold right now where the defense is like, 'don't screw it up.' I think it affects the way people play, the way they practice, the way they call plays. Our conversation was all about that." Young said this was the first time a head coach has reached out to him about something he has said on the air. "I thought it was great," Young said. "I was grateful for the chance to talk it out. In TV, I don't even get to say it right. … I was very impressed with his openness to philosophically what I was trying to say." http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/jetsbl...#ixzz1lRTiifs4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Rex Ryan Reaches Out To Steve Young Quote: INDIANAPOLIS – Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young said he was surprised when his phone rang last month and it was Jets head coach Rex Ryan calling. Ryan reached out to Young for clarification on something the ESPN analyst said on the air about Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez struggling to reach his potential under Ryan. Young said Ryan called and asked him, "What the heck are you talking about?" "I think it was a great conversation, really open," Young said Saturday. "I hung up and was like, 'I really respect that guy that he would call, that he would listen.' I'm sure he was like, 'maybe Steve Young's crazy,' but at least have the conversation. Him saying to me, 'I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my spot and I heard you.' I thought it was great." Young, who is part of the four-hour "Sunday NFL Countdown" show on ESPN to preview the Super Bowl on Sunday, said he spoke to Ryan about how offenses struggle under defensive-minded head coaches. Young played for one in George Seifert with the 49ers. "My fundamental premise is I have watched and experienced defensive-minded head coaches and their effect on offense," Young said. "I watched his dad [former Eagles and Cardinals coach Buddy Ryan], and I talked to him about this, and he admitted he is the same way, 'I'm a defensive coach. I coach great defense. That's what I know.' What happens is the premise is great offense needs light and sunshine. Great defense doesn't. It just doesn't. He brings great sunshine and light to his defense because that's what he knows and that's how he coaches, that's how he practices, that's how he talks. Then what happens is the offense that needs sunshine and light doesn't get it." Young explained to him that he needs to pay more attention to his offense and his quarterback, in particular. That doesn't mean just sitting in meeting rooms either. "I think we came to an understanding," Young said. "He said 'I don't feel like I know offense and I don't have the right to go in there.' I said it's not really about that because George Seifert tried to do that. He said you guys were a phenomenal offense with George and I gave him some insight." The two then talked about some different teams and coaches around the league who have gone through similar transitions. "We got to talking about [Patriots coach] Bill Belichick," Young said. "Something happened between Cleveland and the first couple of years in Boston. He had the same struggles in Cleveland. Something happened there that allowed him to make that transition." They also discussed the Ravens, where Ryan was the defensive coordinator for four seasons before coming to the Jets. "We got talking about Baltimore," Young said. "I think they've suffered and still suffer from strong personalities on their defense who don't mean trouble but they'll say to the offense, 'don't screw it up. If you don't screw this up, we win.' Then you call plays to not screw it up. Then you run plays not to screw it up. Then you play not to screw it up. I think the Jets are in that mold right now where the defense is like, 'don't screw it up.' I think it affects the way people play, the way they practice, the way they call plays. Our conversation was all about that." Young said this was the first time a head coach has reached out to him about something he has said on the air. "I thought it was great," Young said. "I was grateful for the chance to talk it out. In TV, I don't even get to say it right. … I was very impressed with his openness to philosophically what I was trying to say." http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/jetsbl...#ixzz1lRTiifs4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Oh for ****'s sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 "We got to talking about [Patriots coach] Bill Belichick," Young said. "Something happened between Cleveland and the first couple of years in Boston. He had the same struggles in Cleveland. Something happened there that allowed him to make that transition." Lol, are these two knuckleheads serious? Something unidentifiable happened first few years with NE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I actually like stories like this. It makes me feel like Ryan's trying to learn to be a better coach. That's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I actually like stories like this. It makes me feel like Ryan's trying to learn to be a better coach. That's a good thing. Truth •. At least Rex can identify that he sucks in some in some areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is why I love Rex and want him as head coach of the Jets for many years. He wants to win, he lives to win, and he doesn't let his pride get in the way. If he thinks someone can offer him something to help him win he listens. Spin it any way you want but the man is trying to improve his supposed weaknesses, that means he's working to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Rex knows defense like Bo knows stuff. If Rex ever knows offense like Bo does then watch out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is why I love Rex and want him as head coach of the Jets for many years. He wants to win, he lives to win, and he doesn't let his pride get in the way. If he thinks someone can offer him something to help him win he listens. Spin it any way you want but the man is trying to improve his supposed weaknesses, that means he's working to get better. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I sense that "Don't screw it up" attitude from Rex. He definitely values his defense far more than his offense. That is not a good approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 That point about Baltimore was awesome...I think Rex is less extreme than the actual players in Baltimore, but the Ravens D has bullied their offense for years. I do not want that to become a thing here. That's my big add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 nice report Kentucky Jet -- all four times... seriously though, I think Rex's ego took a battering last season (deservedly so) and maybe he's now going to reach out and try and move from great defensive coordinator who lets his offensive coordinator run the offense unsupervised and his special teams coordinator to run the special teams unsupervised to a real Head Coach that takes charge of ALL three parts of an NFL team and makes sure that he understands what they are doing, why they are doing it and that THEY ARE DOING WHAT HE WANTS THEM TO DO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Lol, are these two knuckleheads serious? Something unidentifiable happened first few years with NE? I don't know, it's really tough to pin down what exactly happened, but I think it's pretty clear when it did, some time in the middle of the 2001 season. Can't imagine what that would have been though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 This is actually a pretty old story. I cant remember which ESPN show (probably Michael Kay) they asked him abut it as a throwaway at the end of the interview and Young was so thrilled with Rex that he just went on and on and on about it. I guess Rex heard that Young was critical of his handling of the offense and wanted to know why. Specifically he asked him about how he played for Seifert and Young pretty much told him it was tough to play for him because he disliked the offense so much. In some ways it was good for Rex to do, but I also wonder where his head is at if he really takes all that criticism to heart. There are things outsiders see that I think guys on the team are blind to, but Im just not sure about going this far. Still it seemed as if he was open and honest with Young and trying to learn which is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 This article was a lot of fun to read the first 3 times. P.S: This just shows how much Rex wants to improve the JETS. He is looking at all avenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 P.S: This just shows how much Rex wants to improve the JETS. He is looking at all avenues. Did he look in the mirror??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperfoot Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 rex is an exlent coach. him reaching out to steve young just show he is really devoted to the team and wants to branch out and do anything he can to win and improve his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 If our 4th year HC really said that he feels he doesn't know offense and doesn't have the right to get involved with it, I quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Translation: Rex was looking for a clue. By the time he gets a clue, he'll be out on the street..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The thing that cracks me up is after this Rex went out and brought in Sporano. That'll help an offense and a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Sparano? He's doing about as well as I expected him to....... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 This is very encouraging to hear. I hope Rex is here a long time and this is why. I just feel like he wants to do anything it takes to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 This is very encouraging to hear. I hope Rex is here a long time and this is why. I just feel like he wants to do anything it takes to win. Where does hiring Sparano to replace Schotty sync with that? BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Isn't there a software button that stops new people from posting in a really old thread, like this one from February ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 This is why I love Rex and want him as head coach of the Jets for many years. He wants to win, he lives to win, and he doesn't let his pride get in the way. If he thinks someone can offer him something to help him win he listens. Spin it any way you want but the man is trying to improve his supposed weaknesses, that means he's working to get better. If our 4th year HC really said that he feels he doesn't know offense and doesn't have the right to get involved with it, I quit. Trying hard to sparse the competing ideas...personally leaning toward he needs to go because he don't get it...otoh...if dipsh*t Woody keeps him...Rex needs to at least get rid of Sparano and hire Norv as the OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 So inspite of all the inputs, conversations and changes we still stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That point about Baltimore was awesome...I think Rex is less extreme than the actual players in Baltimore, but the Ravens D has bullied their offense for years. I do not want that to become a thing here. That's my big add. Well, it would be nice if their D was really as good as Baltimore's and not just a statistical smokescreen, but yeah, Rex cannot bail. Just taking responsibility without trying to actually effect change on offense is not good enough. He is the head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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