neckdemon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Political ethics (also known as political morality or public ethics) is the practice of making moral judgements about political action and political agents.[1] It covers two areas. The first is the ethics of process (or the ethics of office), which deals with public officials and the methods they use.[2] The second area, the ethics of policy (or ethics and public policy) concerns judgments about policies and laws.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ethics i would consider capital punishment more of a criminal justice issue rather than political but i guess the lines are blurred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 if he's not playing idc as much. if he is playing i'm gonna root for the jets........ to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acupuncturejeff Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'm disapointed. Only 4 posters turning in their Jets fan membership card? I expected at least 4 suicides. People have just lost their fire It's only been an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 you can like dogs or not...but this dude drowned puppies and hung underperforming fighting dogs. sorry thats not forgiveable. I understand that it's not forgivable. I don't like what he did, it just does not effect my life. The fact that he is a terrible QB is my concern. Why can't this team ever have a good QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acupuncturejeff Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I am already seeing non-Jet fans calling the Jets a circus again on other forum sites and facebook. Everyone is laughing at the Jets, except maybe philly fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 kinda like wanting the death penalty for a child murdering pedophile? i am as big an animal lover as anyone. I have a 160 pound canary dog that is like my 4th child. but what the man did is not in the same realm as a child molester. what he did was commit a crime and he has paid the price. I am not going to hold against him what he has already paid for. what concerns me is what he does as a ny jet moving forward. I am not particularly fond of him as a qb, myself. but whats done is done. with any luck, geno progresses as a pro and we will not have to see vick take a meaningful snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acupuncturejeff Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Wish you guys would relax. I don't see how this move hurts the team. It hurts our morals and ethics. anyone with higher morals and ethics is hurt by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I am rooting for Izdik to get injured lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 imo, mike vick is subhuman Here's the "bigger point" to this signing: If you have ONE rock, who are you going to throw it at, Mike Vick or Geno Smith? if you can only make ONE sign, saying "______ Sucks!" and bring it to a game, who's name are you going to fill in, Vick or Geno? Geno is a moldable talent who crumbles when the boo-birds come out, and now he's a default hero for the position on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 See you when Vick is gone. Signed a washed up scumbag, screw this team. What do you mean? You're leaving JN till he's gone? We didnt do anything. And as far as not rooting for them anymore, what if by chance Vick leads the Jets to the Super Bowl, still not rooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I am already seeing non-Jet fans calling the Jets a circus again on other forum sites and facebook. Everyone is laughing at the Jets, except maybe philly fans ohhh brother... dude don't watch Blackfish - you won't be able to sleep. Killer Whales are infinitely smarter than the most intelligent dog yet are being held captive in what amounts to a bathtub. Their babies are taken from them and they are basically tortured so Sea World can sell Shamu t-shirts. Sea World, Marine Land et al... Circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 i am as big an animal lover as anyone. I have a 160 pound canary dog that is like my 4th child. but what the man did is not in the same realm as a child molester. what he did was commit a crime and he has paid the price. I am not going to hold against him what he has already paid for. what concerns me is what he does as a ny jet moving forward. I am not particularly fond of him as a qb, myself. but whats done is done. with any luck, geno progresses as a pro and we will not have to see vick take a meaningful snap my point wasnt that its in the same level of crime. someone made the comment that hoping for an injury to someone who did something bad is hypocritical. so in that case.....capital punishment for a murderer is also hypocritical. i dont agree. i think killing a child molester is perfectly acceptable punishment. just as i think mike vick breaking his leg is perfectly acceptable karma for what he's done....and i hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 It hurts our morals and ethics. anyone with higher morals and ethics is hurt by this. So I dont have high morals and ethics because I'm not hurt by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 What do you mean? You're leaving JN till he's gone? We didnt do anything. And as far as not rooting for them anymore, what if by chance Vick leads the Jets to the Super Bowl, still not rooting? I honestly don't want the Jets to win a superbowl with Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 i'm not gonna abandon the jets because i love football and i cant root for a differetn team. i will, however, be rooting daily for a career ending injury to vick.Are you also rooting for a nuclear holocaust in South Korea? They eat dog there like we eat cheeseburgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I honestly don't want the Jets to win a superbowl with Vick. I can't see him being healthy long enough to reach that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I honestly don't want the Jets to win a superbowl with Vick. luckily we won't have to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acupuncturejeff Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 So I dont have high morals and ethics because I'm not hurt by this? sorry, but to be ok with the Jets signing a guy who strangled dogs, and electrocuted them, it makes me say yes. there is a reason why my facebook is lighting up with people laughing at the Jets, and why this forum is exploding with the hate for this signing. I understand that people say Vick deserves a second chance, but not with me. If I got a felon, I would not be able to work at my profession, as the state won't allow convicted felons, and insurance companies won't allow convicted felons with them, and there is a good reason for this. Only Jet fans, who love their team, is overlooking this, just like when the Philly fans back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acupuncturejeff Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 From the USDA report: The report shows that after failing an FBI polygraph test in October 2007 the former Atlanta Falcon quarterback recanted his denial and admitted taking part in the hanging of dogs from a nylon cord nailed to a tree and drowning others in a five gallon bucket of water. Twice Vick put family pets into the fighting ring with pit bulls because he “thought it was funny to watch the pit bulls. . . injure or kill the other dogs.” Vick also admitted watching his friends hang, shoot and electrocute pit bulls. How anyone can be ok with this signing is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Prediction: Michael Vick is going to be the conversational root of many many bannings, and thread locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mother****er. Mock outrage vote Ape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 It hurts our morals and ethics. anyone with higher morals and ethics is hurt by this. 5 years ago I had a guy working for me who had done 11+ years for murder. He was one of my best employees. Came to work every day for 2 years, worked hard, was good at his job. My problem with Vick is, he won't come to work every day, and he's not so good at his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Best back-up in the league. Yes he is imagine the wildcat packages!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Are you also rooting for a nuclear holocaust in South Korea? They eat dog there like we eat cheeseburgers. big difference between killing an animal for food and drowning puppies because they dont appear to be aggressive enough and hanging dogs because they couldnt win in a forced fight to the death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acupuncturejeff Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Enjoy Cheering for this guy: The report shows that after failing an FBI polygraph test in October 2007 the former Atlanta Falcon quarterback recanted his denial and admitted taking part in the hanging of dogs from a nylon cord nailed to a tree and drowning others in a five gallon bucket of water. Twice Vick put family pets into the fighting ring with pit bulls because he “thought it was funny to watch the pit bulls. . . injure or kill the other dogs.” Vick also admitted watching his friends hang, shoot and electrocute pit bulls. goodbye Jets, it hurts to say this, but goodbye. Izdik stabbed me in the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 What do you mean? You're leaving JN till he's gone? We didnt do anything. And as far as not rooting for them anymore, what if by chance Vick leads the Jets to the Super Bowl, still not rooting? I will lurk and occasionally chime in here, but the Jets are dead to me sibling as Vick is a member of the team. Complete scumbag I will not be associated with. It is bad enough my tickets contribute to his pay. Thankfully myself and my family donate enough to dog rescues to offset it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 big difference between killing an animal for food and drowning puppies because they dont appear to be aggressive enough and hanging dogs because they couldnt win in a forced fight to the death. Is it okay to fight roosters? Is it okay to fish for recreation if you don't eat it (just puncture it's lip and deprive it of oxygen before returning it)? Is it okay to kill bulls? Is it okay to strap a horses nuts with a leather strap and ride it for 8 seconds? Is it okay to cage a wild animal? Is it okay to litter on the beach? Is it okay to kill a mouse? Is it okay pull the plug on a human? Is it okay to slaughter farm animals for food? Is it okay to genetically engineer animals for consumption? Is it okay to take monkeys into space? I don't know. I believe in what I believe, and when it comes to football I root for my favorite team to win. Sports is a release from all the sh*t that's wrong in the world. The southern states where dog fighting is the norm has plenty of other issues to deal with, including people killing, and race stuff. I can't relate to a lot of it. But this guy has been back in the league for 6 years. The crimes he committed occurred in 2006; EIGHT years ago. I'm going to judge him on his utility to this team while he's here, and hope the Jets can improve from .500 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Root for the badge on the front. Not the name on the back. What awful fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 See you when Vick is gone. Signed a washed up scumbag, screw this team. Good Riddance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Root for the badge on the front. Not the name on the back. What awful fans. F*ck that. The bade on the front is a disgrace right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 I hope he dies of a dog attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 F*ck that. The bade on the front is a disgrace right now. Because Michael Vick is the first bad person to play for the Jets. GTFO. He is a bad person, who made bad mistakes and paid for it dearly. Get over it. GOATS GOTTA GOAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Anybody want to sell lower level season tickets let me know face value depending on where the seats are I might be interested. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 One 3 pick game by Geno and they'll be clamoring for Vick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Is it okay to fight roosters? Is it okay to fish for recreation if you don't eat it (just puncture it's lip and deprive it of oxygen before returning it)? Is it okay to kill bulls? Is it okay to strap a horses nuts with a leather strap and ride it for 8 seconds? Is it okay to cage a wild animal? Is it okay to litter on the beach? Is it okay to kill a mouse? Is it okay pull the plug on a human? Is it okay to slaughter farm animals for food? Is it okay to genetically engineer animals for consumption? Is it okay to take monkeys into space? I don't know. I believe in what I believe, and when it comes to football I root for my favorite team to win. Sports is a release from all the sh*t that's wrong in the world. The southern states where dog fighting is the norm has plenty of other issues to deal with, including people killing, and race stuff. I can't relate to a lot of it. But this guy has been back in the league for 6 years. The crimes he committed occurred in 2006; EIGHT years ago. I'm going to judge him on his utility to this team while he's here, and hope the Jets can improve from .500 this year. hey i respect ur right to ur opinion. i might not agree but thats doesnt matter. my opinion is that i dont want him on the team...and if he's here i dont want him to succeed....and i'd like to see him break a leg as i believe he deserves pain and failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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