Bugg Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If they go corner, I'm done. This team;s offense has been form hunger spare the Favre 5 minutes. You will never get past the Pats scoring 10 points. A CORNER? This is scary because Serby is the kind of now nothing media dope the jets and Jints feed trial balloons to to see how it plays. http://nypost.com/2014/04/05/serby-unveils-first-projection-of-upcoming-nfl-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm not exactly pounding the table for Bortles, but I'd like what it would say about the philosophy moving forward--that they won't shy away from throwing big resources into finding a high-level QB. They keep loading up on defense and it's gets them nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 You didn't list kicker.... We have picked a kicker before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 It's possible, and If he is I hope, and assume that's who Idzik selects. Personally, I don't like any of these QBs in the first. If Ponder went in the first, the top 4 (Manziel, Bortles, Carr, Bridgewater) will go in the first. There are numerous desperate teams in need of a franchise QB and will reach , as always, to get one. Texans, Browns, Jags, Raiders, Vikings, Titans and Jets can be said to be all in the market for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm hoping for Lewan, but otherwise just make sure he doesn't suck. Lewan's the best OL in this draft, but I read there's character concerns or something that could get him into the teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Tar. Heel. I voted WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 What if a kicker is BPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 What if a kicker is BPA? LOL, then he better also be wealthy and promise to buy 10,000 PSLs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'll be a little surprised if value and need don't converge on the WR position at the 18th pick of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I clicked safety to be a dick, but could totally see picking a tight end at 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 I clicked safety to be a dick, but could totally see picking a tight end at 18. Hernandez being released from Prison but Jets will back signing as a FA cause rumor is his TE days are over and he is a WR now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hernandez being released from Prison but Jets will back signing as a FA cause rumor is his TE days are over and he is a WR now Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If the board falls like this: 1. Texans: Clowney 2. Rams: Robinson 3. Jags: Mack 4. Browns: Bridgewater 5. Raiders: Watkins 6. Falcons: Matthews 7. Bucs: Evans 8. Vikings: Manziel 9. Bills: Ebron 10. Lions: Gilbert 11. Titans: Carr 12. Giants: Ebron 13. Rams: Mosley 14. Bears: Lewan 15. Steelers: Barr 16. Cowboys: Donald/Hageman 17. Ravens: Dix/Pryor 18. Jets... The Titans at 11 is the big pick to watch. They declined the option on Locker, so they're primed to go QB; it remains to be seen if they want to wait and give Locker one more shot. If they go anywhere other than QB, and if the Browns nab Bridgewater, it's a QB freefall to 18. Two options if things go this way. Draft CB Dennard OR Trade down. I think the JETS would and should draft BPA and i am not convinced a WR would be the BPA if your scenario plays out. I also think on draft day the TE and Safety positions you see players drop down than what they are projected. For example last years draft Eifert was listed in the Top 12 or Top 15 in many mock drafts but ended up falling to #21. So i do expect the JETS to have some options at #18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Whatever QB falls to 18 will probably be BPA on Idzik's board. As we saw with the Richardson pick, he's probably not going to divert from that board in the name of expedience. I'm not sure I get this logic. If a QB is dropping, it would seem to be because the 17 teams picking ahead of the Jets had players rated higher. Why would the Jets be the team that would stop that player's fall? The team was more QB needy last year than they are this year, and managed to hold off on picking one until the second round. They could easily have Lee, Dennard, Cooks, etc., ranked higher than Carr. If the QBs do drop, it'll be because there are a bunch of them in a weak class. Teams will be looking emulate what the Jets did last year and get a decent prospect later. I'm hoping all four QBs are off the board before 18, though. That would mean better prospects dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I still think the desperate need to find an answer at QB will make these top QB's in this draft go high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'll be a little surprised if value and need don't converge on the WR position at the 18th pick of the draft. I think in Idziks mind WR has been addressed with Decker and Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Bortles or Carr. Idzik realizes (and Rex has no clue) that Geno is no sure thing at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I think in Idziks mind WR has been addressed with Decker and Ford. Ford isn't even guaranteed a roster spot come September. He's a #4 or 5 WR, maybe, with return abilities. That's it. There's still a gaping hole at the starting WR spot opposite Decker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 I think in Idziks mind WR has been addressed with Decker and Ford. I'd agree IF the scouts have a 'hidden gem WR' they think will fall to later rounds,,still need reliable true burner,,fords had injury issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I think either manziel drops out of the first or teddy I think at least one of them will be there at 18 and the jets take a OG or LB, with 2 WR's sitting there and it's popcorn time for me, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I think in Idziks mind WR has been addressed with Decker and Ford. agree. WR at 18 is no lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 I think either manziel drops out of the first or teddy I think at least one of them will be there at 18 and the jets take a OG or LB, with 2 WR's sitting there and it's popcorn time for me, lol u hinting jet stake teddy/manzel in 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The depth of the wide receiver position in this draft makes you think no wide receiver in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 u hinting jet stake teddy/manzel in 2nd? wasn't my intention, I think as has been mentioned teams will take them early in the 2nd. teddy throws ballons and manziel could go 1st or 61st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Ford isn't even guaranteed a roster spot come September. He's a #4 or 5 WR, maybe, with return abilities. That's it. There's still a gaping hole at the starting WR spot opposite Decker. I'd agree IF the scouts have a 'hidden gem WR' they think will fall to later rounds,,still need reliable true burner,,fords had injury issues I dont disagree with these assessments but I do think Idzik is convinced that Decker Nelson Kerley are enough of an upgrade from last year and will lead him to draft another position. Honestly I would love if Evans fell to 18. I think he is the most NFL ready WR style wise in the draft and could start day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 I dont disagree with these assessments but I do think Idzik is convinced that Decker Nelson Kerley are enough of an upgrade from last year and will lead him to draft another position. Honestly I would love if Evans fell to 18. I think he is the most NFL ready WR style wise in the draft and could start day 1. ya, my concern w/current WR set is no reliaable outside burner that allows 1) stretch Defense: 2) prevent Def from stacking box to stop run 3) allow TE to roam in slot with only a LB covering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm not sure I get this logic. If a QB is dropping, it would seem to be because the 17 teams picking ahead of the Jets had players rated higher. Why would the Jets be the team that would stop that player's fall? The team was more QB needy last year than they are this year, and managed to hold off on picking one until the second round. They could easily have Lee, Dennard, Cooks, etc., ranked higher than Carr. If the QBs do drop, it'll be because there are a bunch of them in a weak class. Teams will be looking emulate what the Jets did last year and get a decent prospect later. I'm hoping all four QBs are off the board before 18, though. That would mean better prospects dropping. Yeah, I'm not going to pretend to know what Idzik's board looks like, but it seems he's an adherent to it. There's no way that CB and DE were huge team needs last year, but he still took a (relatively) falling Milliner, and then Richardson higher than most predicted him to go over players like Cord Patterson and Jarvis Jones, etc. I don't think that Idzik cares what other team's boards looks like--only his own. If Bortles' name appears ahead of, say, Beckham, Dennard, etc, then I think he'll grab that player but, obviously, we have no idea where he ranks any of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yeah, I'm not going to pretend to know what Idzik's board looks like, but it seems he's an adherent to it. There's no way that CB and DE were huge team needs last year, but he still took a (relatively) falling Milliner, and then Richardson higher than most predicted him to go over players like Cord Patterson and Jarvis Jones, etc. I don't think that Idzik cares what other team's boards looks like--only his own. If Bortles' name appears ahead of, say, Beckham, Dennard, etc, then I think he'll grab that player but, obviously, we have no idea where he ranks any of these guys. idzik will go bap. whoever that person is, whatever position he plays, even DL. An Aaron Donald pick wouldn't totally surprise me he's a natural pass rusher they could stand him up or whatever. In their dreams Watkins or Evans falls. Anthony Barr could fall maybe. Dennard wouldn't be a reach at 18 and neither would Ha-Ha. I don't know that Rex cares about safeties they have problems back there. One guy that is falling thru the cracks is CJ mosely. Im not saying it's likely. but as a darkhorse he's SEC, dinged up like Milliner but still an elite athlete for his position. Makes the team better right away can start. He certainly could end up in the 2nd rd cause no one values ILB but this could be one of those picks where it looks obvious in hindsight (duh obviously they want to get rid of David Harris' monster contract). you said watch TEN at 11 that's true also see alot of synergy with the Steelers at 15. They need a corner bad. They could swoop in a falling Pass rusher. They need a gamebreaker WR. They have a dire need a safety. they need OL too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 idzik will go bap. whoever that person is, whatever position he plays, even DL. An Aaron Donald pick wouldn't totally surprise me he's a natural pass rusher they could stand him up or whatever. In their dreams Watkins or Evans falls. Anthony Barr could fall maybe. Dennard wouldn't be a reach at 18 and neither would Ha-Ha. I don't know that Rex cares about safeties they have problems back there. One guy that is falling thru the cracks is CJ mosely. Im not saying it's likely. but as a darkhorse he's SEC, dinged up like Milliner but still an elite athlete for his position. Makes the team better right away can start. He certainly could end up in the 2nd rd cause no one values ILB but this could be one of those picks where it looks obvious in hindsight (duh obviously they want to get rid of David Harris' monster contract). you said watch TEN at 11 that's true also see alot of synergy with the Steelers at 15. They need a corner bad. They could swoop in a falling Pass rusher. They need a gamebreaker WR. They have a dire need a safety. they need OL too. I dont think he goes BPA if a QB is there. I think w/Geno/Vick now, the Jets have their eye on a specific sleeper QB in 6/7 round, he may even drop to UDFA due to injury plagued 2013 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I voted WR. However, if the thought is to trade up for a pass rusher it makes sense that they are comfortable relying less upon CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If they sign CJ...I would be fine with cb, te, s, ol and go wr in round 2 If no CJ...best avail wr please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I have to apologize. I have officially decided I want beckham Jr. to be drafted by the jets. I have only gotten my wish once, when need met board and the jets took brick so I'm 1 for 33 sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 If the board falls like this: 1. Texans: Clowney 2. Rams: Robinson 3. Jags: Mack 4. Browns: Bridgewater 5. Raiders: Watkins 6. Falcons: Matthews 7. Bucs: Evans 8. Vikings: Manziel 9. Bills: Ebron 10. Lions: Gilbert 11. Titans: Carr 12. Giants: Ebron 13. Rams: Mosley 14. Bears: Lewan 15. Steelers: Barr 16. Cowboys: Donald/Hageman 17. Ravens: Dix/Pryor 18. Jets... The Titans at 11 is the big pick to watch. They declined the option on Locker, so they're primed to go QB; it remains to be seen if they want to wait and give Locker one more shot. If they go anywhere other than QB, and if the Browns nab Bridgewater, it's a QB freefall to 18. Don't see either of those happening. Zimmer from what it sounds like, is not liking Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 idzik will go bap. whoever that person is, whatever position he plays, even DL. An Aaron Donald pick wouldn't totally surprise me he's a natural pass rusher they could stand him up or whatever. In their dreams Watkins or Evans falls. Anthony Barr could fall maybe. Dennard wouldn't be a reach at 18 and neither would Ha-Ha. I don't know that Rex cares about safeties they have problems back there. One guy that is falling thru the cracks is CJ mosely. Im not saying it's likely. but as a darkhorse he's SEC, dinged up like Milliner but still an elite athlete for his position. Makes the team better right away can start. He certainly could end up in the 2nd rd cause no one values ILB but this could be one of those picks where it looks obvious in hindsight (duh obviously they want to get rid of David Harris' monster contract). you said watch TEN at 11 that's true also see alot of synergy with the Steelers at 15. They need a corner bad. They could swoop in a falling Pass rusher. They need a gamebreaker WR. They have a dire need a safety. they need OL too. Aaron Donald doesn't make sense on a number of levels. I prefer Shazier to Mosley. Pryor seems okay. Don't see any OL besides Martin. This is basically what we're looking at at 18 if we don't go receiver or corner as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 You forgot to add K to the category. ******* racist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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