GimmeShelter Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The end of the "plan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Idzik kind of got the shaft but last years draft was his big downfall. I honselty think if both of their performances were exactly the same but personalites were swapped half the people wanting to ditch idzik and keep loveable rex would be on the other side of the fence. Nonsense. First impressions die hard for fans, Rex had immediate success out of the gate, more success then we've ever had in fact. It's like Pennington, guy sucked ass but fans still love him for 2002 WC season. The good will earned at the start of their career sustains them for awhile Idzik came out of the gate and did nothing, he has no good will cause he's had no success. We have one of the worst rosters in football and are terrible at QB and CB, two of the most important positions in the game. Has nothing to do with personality, there's just nothing to point to with the guy to say he's done a good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 still can't believe there's such a thing as an Idzik fan. Guys resume here is a complete dearth of accomplishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 WoodEY Johnson? CasserlEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Nonsense. First impressions die hard for fans, Rex had immediate success out of the gate, more success then we've ever had in fact. It's like Pennington, guy sucked ass but fans still love him for 2002 WC season. The good will earned at the start of their career sustains them for awhile Idzik came out of the gate and did nothing, he has no good will cause he's had no success. We have one of the worst rosters in football and are terrible at QB and CB, two of the most important positions in the game. Has nothing to do with personality, there's just nothing to point to with the guy to say he's done a good job While some situations - Revis in particular - had their own peripheral baggage, ultimately it came down to this, I think, for Woody: Passing league. Biggest needs or long-term solutions needed: QB, WR, CB, OG QB: Brought in a FA QB, retired on us in May = failed Drafted a QB = failed. Brought in a FA QB, wouldn't let him play = failed CB: Let Revis go (though he got a great return and much-needed cap reprieve). Replaced with Milliner, though = failed as of today Let Cromartie go part I: brought in a FA CB for stop-gap = failed Let Cromartie go part 2: over-drafted a CB = failed as of today OG: Let Slauson (nothing special, but certainly start-able) go, watched him re-sign for vet minimum with Chicago = failed Drafted OG in round 3 = failed Drafted OG in round 5 = mostly failed early on, but he was young and certainly has looked better than the above 2nd half of yr 2 = unknown Drafted OG (converted DT) in round 6 = failed Added FA OG on back to back 1 yr deals = meh. Hope was someone would take his job away, so we're exactly where we were 3/1/2013 = failed WR: Skipped WR and TE in every round of his first draft and: Let his rookie QB (and the previous regime's highly-drafted QB) throw to a bad group = failed Brought in Decker (everyone knows his wife wanting to be in NY gave us a decided advantage) = success Skipped WR in round 1 for SS who doesn't look so great yet (and gets hurt easily, it seems) = failed Skipped WR in round 2 for TE = I'll call this success since it's still a pass-catcher and we sure needed an upgrade there as well = success Skipped WR in round 3 for over-drafted CB who didn't play all season and missed almost entire senior year = failed Drafted a punt returner in round 4, cut in September = failed Drafted a WR in round 4 = IR'd in August, was playing poorly enough to get cut otherwise = failed so far Drafted a WR in round 6 = spent most of the season on PS = failed so far Spent $6-7M and a minimum 6th round pick on a FA WR at 1-7. Has $10.5M salary next year that we won't pay, and he won't take a cut = failed Re-signed slot receiver to probably a much larger deal he'd have gotten as a UFA, during 2nd consecutive off-season = relative fail Biggest needs entering 2015: QB, CB, OG, WR Again, there are reasons to be argued for many of these events, but in the end...well they keep saying it's a results-oriented business and for the 3rd straight offseason we have to address these same 4 positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 WoodEY Johnson? That's the username, which may, perhaps unfortunately, become JamEYs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If you want to compare us to the BILLS or FINS ..nothing speaks of SOJF than that. I simply hold a higher standard than the Browns , Bills, and FINS. Across the hall at MetLife is GIANTS management. 4 SB wins since 86 and 5 appearances. Its not by accident that SB's are won by the same handful of teams .... its management. Well the Bills did make the Bowl 4 straight years in the 90's..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 #payupbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Rex to the Bears.isnt Ditka back in good with ownership there finally ?...there's a good way to alienate him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 John Idzik cost us Revis I hate the guy even more today than I did yesterday Idzik you suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 isnt Ditka back in good with ownership there finally ?...there's a good way to alienate him again Is Ditka still pissed that the team carried Buddy off the field after the Bowl win? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Well the Bills did make the Bowl 4 straight years in the 90's..LOL agreed.... thats why I used the GIANTS not Bills as a team to model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 agreed.... thats why I used the GIANTS not Bills as a team to model. I'll take 4 SBs even if all losses rather that knowing you are out of hunt in f**kin October., damn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'll take 4 SBs even if all losses rather that knowing you are out of hunt in f**kin October., damn.. Perhaps...but right now, BILLS fans are about the most miserable I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 God, listening to NY Radio today is a horror show of callers. "Yeah, Woody is like super rich, wadoes he care about, ah? He's too rich to care about winning! Now, I have two candidates, Gruden of course, and whats Bill Cowher doin' these days. Or Holmgren, ya know. I'll take your comments off the air." **** sake. /facepalm I stopped listening to both our moronic sports talk stations except for live events about 18 months ago, fish. Best thing you can do No idiotic callers. No even more idiotic hosts. I occasionally miss the Schmooze and the 14 daily calls from Ira of SI, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Uh oh- Max are you going to clean house as well? No. That happened last year for us. We are all set now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 No. That happened last year for us. We are all set now lol. Where was Tom Shane hiding then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Perhaps...but right now, BILLS fans are about the most miserable I know. more than me? doubt it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Another great Rex Whore talking point today: "I'm not for keeping Rex.....but WHO ELSE CAN WE GET??? NO ONE AVAILABLE IS BETTER!!! NO ONE CAN DO WHAT REX DID!!!! THE NEXT GUY IS SURE TO FAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!" /facepalm Half of Jets Fan Nation assured our next Coach will be a failure.....before we've hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Another great Rex Whore talking point today: "I'm not for keeping Rex.....but WHO ELSE CAN WE GET??? NO ONE AVAILABLE IS BETTER!!! NO ONE CAN DO WHAT REX DID!!!! THE NEXT GUY IS SURE TO FAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!" /facepalm Half of Jets Fan Nation assured our next Coach will be a failure.....before we've hired him. History tends to repeat itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 isnt Ditka back in good with ownership there finally ?...there's a good way to alienate him again Maybe Rex and Ditka are pals? Rex is the opposite of Buddy in terms of wanting to kick everyones a$$. Bears are about defense. Always have been. Perfect landing spot for Tanny and Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Another great Rex Whore talking point today: "I'm not for keeping Rex.....but WHO ELSE CAN WE GET??? NO ONE AVAILABLE IS BETTER!!! NO ONE CAN DO WHAT REX DID!!!! THE NEXT GUY IS SURE TO FAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!" /facepalm Half of Jets Fan Nation assured our next Coach will be a failure.....before we've hired him. Mangoni is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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