Jets Fans Biggest Concerns for 2012

[Maxman]

Jets Fans Biggest Concerns for 2012

by Kristine Gammer on July 6, 2012[edit]

in Featured Editorials

A little over a week ago, I asked the members of JetNation, as well as some Jets fans I know personally, what they thought were the biggest holes left to fill on the Jets’ roster as it currently stands. With just about three weeks until training camp, let’s take a look at what Jets fans think are the team’s most vulnerable positions, starting with the most obvious.

Quarterback: As expected, this was one of the first positions mentioned by fans. Though Mark Sanchez’s numbers say he improved last season, watching him week in and week out left most fans with a negative impression of his progress. They don’t think he can read defenses well and he goes through his progressions too slowly, leading to sacks and fumbles. Other teams have figured him out and know he’ll check down at the drop of a hat. Sanchez’s improvement is the key to everything moving forward – the running game, the passing game, the team’s overall success. In spite of the fact that the Jets brought in a high profile backup in Tim Tebow, Tebow’s technique leaves a lot to be desired, and many Jets fans don’t feel good about the situation at QB going into the season.

Right Tackle: Wayne Hunter was a target for ridicule all last season. He was a viable backup in 2010, but as a starter in 2011, he was beaten frequently by opposing defenses, allowing 8.5 sacks and committing 11 penalties. The Jets have stated over and over that Hunter is the starter going into this season, and that’s probably true because Vlad Ducasse couldn’t even take over the starting position from Hunter when Hunter wasn’t doing his job well. Shifting protection to the weak right side hampered D’Brickashaw Ferguson, who was often left to cover more than his share of defenders and ended up allowing 9.5 sacks. Add that to an offensive line that wasn’t as good in 2011 as it was the previous two seasons, partially due to injury, and the whole group has been negatively impacted by Hunter’s ineptness. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Hunter could play better, but until he does, Hunter having the starting position going into 2012 doesn’t sit well with Jets fans. With Ducasse as the backup, fans are even less confident. Ducasse is actually indicative of bigger offensive line problem: lack of depth. For example, behind Nick Mangold, center is a black hole.

Running Back: Shonn Greene took over the role as the starting RB last year, with LaDainian Tomlinson taking a smaller role due to age and injury. The problem Jets fans seem to have with the running back position isn’t Greene per se. It’s more that Greene is a serviceable RB who has nobody to share the load with him, has been affected by injury, and lacks some of the skill required to make him a real feature running back. He’s a good #2 RB, and it should be noted that Greene did rush for over 1000 yards last season. Still, Greene doesn’t inspire confidence in fans because he doesn’t break a lot of tackles and doesn’t move the pile. He lacks the explosiveness and moves of a guy like LaDainian Tomlinson in his prime. On other teams, this isn’t as big of an issue, but the Jets have said they want to be a ground and pound team, but have no feature back. Whether or not ground and pound is a good strategy in a league that’s becoming increasingly pass oriented is a debate for another time, but this is what the Jets have said they want to be (it’s what they’ve said publicly, anyway). The Jets ranked 22^nd in team rushing yards last season, averaging 105.8 rushing yards per game. Denver led in team rushing yards in 2011, averaging 164.5 rushing yards per game and finishing with 2632 total rushing yards. The Jets have to up their average rushing yardage by nearly 40 yards a game just to be in the top 5 rushing teams from 2011. Fans don’t think Joe McKnight has the chops to be the feature back, Terrance Ganaway is a rookie, and it’s still not entirely clear exactly how Tim Tebow is going to be used. Fans don’t know where these extra rushing yards are going to come from if the Jets are going to dominate the league as a rushing team.

Tight End: The Jets have a collection of decent tight ends, but as with running back, fans are concerned that they’re missing a crucial piece of the ground and pound philosophy: the blocking tight end. For those who don’t know, because it’s less obvious, in a ground and pound system tight ends are used as blockers more than receivers to help create holes for the rushers to get through. No tight end on the current roster really fits this role, meaning fewer holes, meaning less yards on the ground. A couple of fans have expressed confidence that new offensive coordinator Tony Sparano will get the tight ends the Jets currently have to do a better job blocking.

Wide Receiver: Fans seem to be fairly optimistic about wide receiver, but there’s a catch. Santonio Holmes is the only proven wideout on the roster. Behind him are a bunch of players who have the potential to be good but, for the most part, are unproven. A guy like Chaz Schilens has been pretty good, but his playing time has been extremely limited due to injury. Jeremy Kerley showed real potential last season, but was a rookie and was targeted only a limited number of times. The guy most fans seem especially excited about is rookie Stephen Hill, who is being predicted to have 30-45 receptions, with 4-7 touchdowns, and between 500 and 600 receiving yards. Like with other guys on the roster, Hill has a lot of promise, but there is very little proven talent behind Holmes. It makes some fans a little nervous.

Safety: This was the only defensive position to come up as a monster question mark. As most fans know, last year was something of a disaster for covering tight ends, especially big guys like Patriot tight ends Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. Jim Leonhard was a good field general but was arguably too small to play strong safety, and aside from the regular mismatch of playing against someone much bigger than he is, it forced Eric Smith (a natural strong safety) to free safety. At the rate people got by him, Smith looked like a double agent out there. That’s how unsuited he is for the FS role. The Jets have attempted to remedy this in the offseason, signing two safeties in Yeremiah Bell and LaRon Landry, as well as drafting Antonio Allen and Josh Bush. Bush is something of a hybrid, converting to safety from corner back in his senior season at Wake Forrest. Tracy Wilson is also a safety currently on the roster. Smith is still under contract with the team, and Leonhard hasn’t been resigned at this point. Although the Jets brought in a bunch of safeties this off season, fans are still concerned about the safety position. Bell is older (34), Landry has been injured, and Allen and Bush are rookies who may or may not make the team. Nothing about these additions automatically says, “Problem solved.”

Punter: Only two fans mentioned punter as a potential problem this season, but there is some cause for concern with T.J. Conley. There was enough negative going on with other aspects of the Jets’ game last season that the punter was largely overlooked, but Conley wasn’t very good. He ranked tenth in the league in total punting yards, but only because the Jets punted so often. He ranked 30^th in average yards per punt with a 42.7 yard average, ahead of only Matt Turk on the Jaguars and Texans (40.8 average yards per punt), and Brad Maynard on the Browns (40.5 average yards per punt). In comparison to that, the punter with the longest average, Andy Lee of the 49ers, averaged 50.9 yards per attempt. Steve Weatherford, Conley’s predecessor now with the Giants, was ranked 14^th averaging 45.7 yards per punt. With field position such an important part of the game, it would be nice if the Jets had someone who could kick the ball further down the field on a consistent basis.

Kicker: It’s surprising that place kicker didn’t get more attention considering the heartburn Nick Folk has given Jets fans these past two seasons. Folk made only 19 of 25 attempted field goals in 2011, meaning he made 76.0% of his field goals. This put him in a tie for 26^th place (out of 31 places) in percentage of field goals made. Matt Bryant of the Falcons, who ranked first in percentage of field goals made, put the ball between the uprights 93.1% of the time (27 field goals of 29 attempted). Even David Akers of the 49ers, who attempted a league high 52 field goals last season, had higher percentage of field goals made, putting the ball through 44 times for 84.6% and ranking 14^th in the league. 2010 wasn’t much better for Folk, who tied for 24^th in the league in percentage of field goals made with 76.9% (33 of 39). And one last stat that really sticks out is that Folk has made only 13 of 24 field goals longer than 40 yards in the last two years, which is 54.2% of field goals made of 40+ yards. Not great. If Jets fans weren’t thrilled that Nick Folk signed a new contract this past March, it wouldn’t be surprising.

Kristine Gammer

I'm a 24 year old native New Yorker, currently writing about about my beloved New York Jets for JetNation.com, usually with dark humor and sometimes with good insight. Jets fan since childhood - thanks (for nothing?) Dad!

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[JustInFudge]

I'm not concerned about any of those positions.

[bitonti]

Other teams have figured him out and know he’ll check down at the drop of a hat.

the troublesome part is that he's checking down to the other team's defensive tackles.

[JustInFudge]

the troublesome part is that he's checking down to the other team's defensive tackles.

But he's open!!!

[Maxman]

I'm not concerned about any of those positions.

I saw an internet video that you were in years ago. You have positional problems of your own.

[T0mShane]

I'm not concerned about any of those positions.

Contrarian skinbag says what?

[Maxman]

Contrarian skinbag says what?

What? What?

Seriously what?

[pointman]

the troublesome part is that he's checking down to the other team's defensive tackles.

haha awesome.

[Larz]

WR

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punter

I think the o-line will be ok after a real preseason (i think bricj and hunter got lazy during the lockout) and with sparano's influence, and there are only 5 teams NOT worried about QB, so yeah whatevs

[Maxman]

WR

S

punter

I think the o-line will be ok after a real preseason (i think bricj and hunter got lazy during the lockout) and with sparano's influence, and there are only 5 teams NOT worried about QB, so yeah whatevs

I am not worried about Safety. Punter I am not worried about because you can make a change there mid season if needed.

I am actually not worried about QB. Totally feeling confident in Sanchez.

[sirlancemehlot]

Online online and online. And a new kicker would be nice. Online is Average or worse with five starters. One injury and the season is kaput. Kinda like last year. Remember last year tannenbaum? Apparently not. A top ten online solves your qb and RB issues. Bottom ten and your offense sucks unless u have a brady or manning back there.

[Irish Jet]

My biggest concern is that we'll suck. It would be nice if we didn't.

[Integrity28]

I'm not concerned about any of those positions.

I'm not concerned about QB. We have 2 who are proven winners, just not capable of gawdy stats.

I am disappointed we didn't upgrade RT on paper, but will trust that a new offense might mean less breakdowns in protection.

I don't believe a team needs a stud RB to have a good running game, so I'm not concerned about RB, because I think we'll average 4 yards per carry as a team between Greene, Tebow, McKnight, Powell and whoever.

Not really worried about safety either, can't get much worse than last year... we brought in 2 veterans and 2 rookies, more importantly it looks like Rex and Pettine are building with what they have to hide the lack of a free safety.

A team that only wants about 200 yards passing per game doesn't need high-profile WRs. They need big targets who can get open when they need to. I think we've got a bunch of that in our TE and outside WRs, and Holmes is Holmes. Not too worried about this either. Based on what we've seen of Fasano, his offense (with Henning) was capable of moving the ball via the pass with both Chads, plus Matt Moore and one stud (Marshall), Fasano and a bunch of nobodies.

[Apache 51]

2 out of the 3 phases need serious improvement.

[JustInFudge]

I saw an internet video that you were in years ago. You have positional problems of your own.

You saw that video? I thought Crusher burned it.

[JustInFudge]

Online online and online. And a new kicker would be nice. Online is Average or worse with five starters. One injury and the season is kaput. Kinda like last year. Remember last year tannenbaum? Apparently not. A top ten online solves your qb and RB issues. Bottom ten and your offense sucks unless u have a brady or manning back there.

Who do you think has the best online in the league?

[The Crusher]

You saw that video? I thought Crusher burned it.

Funny. I keep it nexr to my exercise videos. Safe

[sirlancemehlot]

Who do you think has the best online in the league?

I'd go top three: Giants, Saints, Chiefs. Pats get honorable mention as #4. Not just for the starters, but for depth and abilioty to absorb injuries. What say you?

[slats]

The Jets ranked 22nd in team rushing yards last season, averaging 105.8 rushing yards per game. Denver led in team rushing yards in 2011, averaging 164.5 rushing yards per game and finishing with 2632 total rushing yards. The Jets have to up their average rushing yardage by nearly 40 yards a game just to be in the top 5 rushing teams from 2011.

Funny that Denver is the comparison.

Denver led the league in rushing with Tim Tebow as their second leading rusher. The Jets acquired Tebow, and figure to run him out of the wildcat, as well as in a HB/FB type role. The Jets may've needed nearly 40 yards/game to reach the the top 5, but 27.1 yards/game would've gotten them into the top 6. Pretty arbitrary. Tebow himself averaged over 47 yards a game for the league leading Denver Broncos, I'm thinking he might be able to produce 30/game here.

I don't get this concern about a "blocking TE." Once roster cuts start, there will be a pile of this type of player lying around - and that's if the Jets don't make a move for a guy like Fasano. Given the fact that the team hasn't resigned Keller, you have to believe they have their eyes open at this spot. Meanwhile, the Jets do something most teams in the league don't: employ a FB.

People are concerned about the offense, but I don't see how it can be worse than last year's model, and that team scored 23.6 points a game. Yeah, the defense helped in that regard, but I think everyone agrees that the defense should be even better this year. The only significant piece lost is Plaxico. Does his loss really mean a drop into the abyss? Or does the loss of Plaxico and Schottenheimer mean the loss of the destructive team dynamics that tore them apart by the end of the year?

My glass is half full in July. I think the new offensive coaches will bring some much needed discipline and simplicity to that side of the ball, and I think that will help guys like Hunter and Ducasse. And I love the speed they brought in at WR, a severe hole last season.

[jgb]

My biggest concern has been taken care of: OC. Sparano going to be very good for this offense. And on the bright side if sanchez sucks it up under a new OC he's outta here. Win win.

[CrazyCarl40]

Reverse cowgirl. Wait. What?

[T0mShane]

My biggest concern for 2012 is that, despite all his pretty talk to the contrary, Rex has learned nothing about the need to exert discipline in the locker room. If that turmoil resurfaces, especially during the early hard part of the schedule, the season is over before it started, and we'll be looking for a new head coaching regime before long.

The early results are troubling, to be honest. Signing Tebow was the opposite of the move they needed to make if they were hoping to help Sanchez gain a shred of credibility or confidence in the locker room. Likewise, letting Holmes have an unchecked hissy fit immediately upon returning from his USO tour/f*ck-minicamp-vacay is also troubling, as we had to listen to Rex spout that same "Holmes is a competitor!" bullsh*t he fed to the media after last year's Miami and Philly debacles.

[HDKostempski]

There are apparently two threads on this same topic/article. I responded in the other one:

[T0mShane]

There are apparently two threads on this same topic/article. I responded in the other one:

Max likes to make new threads for articles that have already been discussed at length because he wants the casual users from Twitter and Facebook who click on the adjoining links to believe that nobody really posts here.

[Damaged89]

I'd go top three: Giants, Saints, Chiefs. Pats get honorable mention as #4. Not just for the starters, but for depth and abilioty to absorb injuries. What say you?

Giants? seriously? that line is awful.

[Damaged89]

And FWIW I think going into the offseason the problem on offense was the bad quarterback and the bad right tackle. This problem was addressed by bringing in another bad quarterback. Hooray.

[Smashmouth]

O- Line Depth Stinks and our RT has a lot to prove.

We have no Free Safety

RB Other than Shonn Greene who is a good runner but cant catch who do we have at RB ? On a ground and Pound football team we still do not have an all around RB which really is a mystery based on whats coming from the team in how they plan to G & P Still hoping the Forte Negotiations blow up and the Jets show some Interest Once again while I feel this is a pipe dream I think the missing link on offense is a RB that teams fear both running and catching the football since we finally addressed our WR position fairly well

[JustInFudge]

I'd go top three: Giants, Saints, Chiefs. Pats get honorable mention as #4. Not just for the starters, but for depth and abilioty to absorb injuries. What say you?

I'd agree with Chiefs (especially after picking up Winston) and Pats. Saints, I'm not sure. They lost a couple of pieces this offseason even though they did sign Grubbs. Giants are average.

I think Tampa Bay, Tenn. and Cinci are up there now.

Its hard to say though, last season the Jets were a top 5 OL going into the season.

[Matt39]

getting first downs

[RutgersJetFan]

My biggest concern for 2012 is that, despite all his pretty talk to the contrary, Rex has learned nothing about the need to exert discipline in the locker room. If that turmoil resurfaces, especially during the early hard part of the schedule, the season is over before it started, and we'll be looking for a new head coaching regime before long.

Concerning Rex, this is all narrative. From a practical standpoint, if he's still involving himself in only one aspect of the team, we're probably screwed regardless. If the team performs well, then locker room discord isn't an issue. To do that, he finally needs to step up and become a complete coach who isn't 100% clueless when asked about the offense.

[T0mShane]

Concerning Rex, this is all narrative.

I'm all narrative, all the time.

From a practical standpoint, if he's still involving himself in only one aspect of the team, we're probably screwed regardless. If the team performs well, then locker room discord isn't an issue. To do that, he finally needs to step up and become a complete coach who isn't 100% clueless when asked about the offense.

My fear is that the offense starts off in brutal fashion against a run of top defenses through the first five weeks and the discord snowballs. With a new coordinator, new system, no significant upgrades at any position, and Tebow's presence, I can't see how anyone other than Jet-T envisions games against Pittsburgh, Houston, San Fran, etc, going well for Sanchez or the offense.

[RutgersJetFan]

no significant upgrades at any position...

We drafted Calvin Johnson brah.

[T0mShane]

We drafted Calvin Johnson brah.

I hereby recant my prior concerns.

[Maxman]

We drafted Calvin Johnson brah.

I just looked up Calvin Johnson's career stats and I would like to say that he is good at football.

[slats]

The early results are troubling, to be honest. Signing Tebow was the opposite of the move they needed to make if they were hoping to help Sanchez gain a shred of credibility or confidence in the locker room. Likewise, letting Holmes have an unchecked hissy fit immediately upon returning from his USO tour/f*ck-minicamp-vacay is also troubling, as we had to listen to Rex spout that same "Holmes is a competitor!" bullsh*t he fed to the media after last year's Miami and Philly debacles.

Sanchez has to mature and become more consistent if he's going to be a legitimate NFL QB, and the signing of Tebow will either push him in that direction, or push him off the cliff. The big complaint is that Sanchez has been coddled here. The Tebow signing announces that the coddling is over.

Sparano was brought in to be the disciplinarian on the offense. They brought on Holmes' hissy fit by working him harder than he said he was willing to work. I think that was a not-so-subtle message from Coach Luigi. Once that's done, however they deal with Holmes should be done behind closed doors. I don't want Rex to stand at the podium and say Santonio's a whiny bitch, I want him to say exactly what he said. Holmes is going to be the starting #1 WR for the Jets this year. His contract says so. There's no good that can come from a public dressing down, but there's A LOT of bad attitude something like that can generate.

Stephen Hill has #1 WR receiver potential, and Santonio becomes trade/cut-able as early as next season. The Jets need him well behaved and productive until that time arrives.