Read 'Em And Weep: Jets' Drafts In The Woody Error oops, I mean era

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2013

          1.09 DB  Dee Milliner  Alabama   

          1.13 DL  Sheldon Richardson  Missouri  from TB (Darrelle Revis)

          2.08 QB  Geno Smith  West Virginia   

          3.10 OL  Brian Winters  Kent State   

          5.08 OL  Oday Aboushi  Virginia         

          6.10 OL  William Campbell  Michigan   

          7.09 RB  Tommy Bohanon  Wake Forest     

 

2012  1.16 DL  Quinton Coples  North Carolina   

          2.11 WR  Stephen Hill  Georgia Tech  from SEA

          3.14 LB  DeMario Davis  Arkansas State   

          6.17 DB  Josh Bush  Wake Forest  from PHI through IND

          6.32 RB  Terrance Ganaway  Baylor  compensatory selection

          6.33 OL  Robert T. Griffin  Baylor  compensatory selection

          7.35 DB  Antonio Allen  South Carolina  compensatory selection

          7.37 WR  Jordan White  Western Michigan  compensatory selection  

 

2011  1.30 DL  Muhammad Wilkerson  Temple   

          3.30 DL  Kenrick Ellis  Hampton   

          4.29 RB  Bilal Powell  Louisville   

          5.22 WR  Jeremy Kerley    from PHI

          7.05 QB  Greg McElroy  Alabama  from ARI

          7.24 WR  Scotty McKnight  Colorado  from SEA through PHI  

 

2010  1.29 DB  Kyle Wilson  Boise State   

          2.29 OL  Vlad Ducasse  Massachusetts   

          4.14 RB  Joe McKnight    from CAR

          5.08 RB  John Conner  Kentucky  from SEA   

 

2009  1.05 QB  Mark Sanchez    from CLE

          3.01 RB  Shonn Greene  Iowa  from DET

          6.20 OL  Matt Slauson  Nebraska     

 

2008  1.06 DL  Vernon Gholston  Ohio State   

          1.30 TE  Dustin Keller  Purdue  from GB

          4.14 DB  Dwight Lowery  San Jose State  from NO through GB

          5.27 QB  Erik Ainge  Tennessee  from GB

          6.05 WR  Marcus Henry  Kansas   

          7.04 OL  Nate Garner  Arkansas     

 

2007  1.14 DB  Darrelle Revis  Pittsburgh  from CAR

          2.15 LB  David Harris  Michigan  from GB

          6.03 OL  Jacob Bender  Nicholls State  from TB

          7.25 WR  Chansi Stuckey  Clemson  from NYJ through GB  

 

2006  1.04 OL  D'Brickashaw Ferguson  Virginia   

          1.29 OL  Nick Mangold  Ohio State  from ATL; trade DE John Abraham

          2.17 QB  Kellen Clemens  Oregon  from DAL; trade 2006 2.21, 6.20, 7.03

          3.12 LB  Anthony Schlegel  Ohio State  from PHI; trade 2006 3.07, also received 7.12

          3.33 DB  Eric Smith  Michigan State  compensatory pick

          4.06 QB  Brad Smith  Missouri   

          4.20 RB  Leon Washington  Florida State  from KC

          5.17 TE  Jason Pociask  Wisconsin  from DAL; trade 2006 5.05, also received 6.20

          6.20 DB  Drew Coleman  Texas Christian  from DAL; trade 2006 5.05, also received 5.17

          7.12 DL  Titus Adams  Nebraska  from PHI; trade 2006 3.07, also received 3.12  

 

2005  2.15 K  Mike Nugent  Ohio State  from OAK; trade draft pick 2005 1.26 plus rec'd TE Doug Jolley; from HOU

          2.25 DB  Justin Miller  Clemson   

          3.24 DL  Sione Pouha  Utah   

          4.22 DB  Kerry Rhodes  Louisville  from JAX; trade draft picks 2005 4.26, 6.11; rec'd 2005 4.22

          5.25 DB  Andre Maddox  North Carolina State   

          6.08 RB  Cedric Houston  Tennessee  from Arizona through Oakland

          6.24 TE  Joel Dreessen  Colorado State   

          7.26 WR  Harry Williams  Tuskegee     

 

2004  1.12 LB  Jonathan Vilma     

          3.13 DB  Derrick Strait  Oklahoma   

          4.12 WR  Jerricho Cotchery  North Carolina State   

          4.36 OL  Adrian Jones  Kansas  compensatory pick

          5.11 DB  Erik Coleman  Washington State   

          6.13 OL  Marko Cavka  Sacramento State   

          7.12 LB  Darrell McClover  Miami   

          7.33 DL  Trevor Johnson  Nebraska  compensatory pick

          7.34 RB  Derrick Ward  Ottawa, Kan.  compensatory pick

          7.35 DB  Rashad Washington  Kansas State  compensatory pick  

 

2003  1.04 DL  Dewayne Robertson  Kentucky  from CHI; trade draft picks 2003 1.13, 1.22 and 4.19

          2.21 LB  Victor Hobson  Michigan   

          3.21 RB  B.J. Askew  Michigan   

          5.05 DB  Derek Pagel  Iowa  from WAS; compensation KR-RB Chad Morton; (was from DAL via NE; trade draft picks)

          5.15 DL  Matt Walters  Miami  from KC; trade draft picks

          6.27 QB  Brooks Bollinger  Wisconsin  from KC; trade draft picks  

          7.23 OL  Dave Yovanovits  Temple     

 

2002  1.22 LB  Bryan Thomas  Ala.-Birmingham   

          2.25 DB  Jon McGraw  Kansas State   

          3.23 TE  Chris Baker  Michigan State   

          4.23 DL  Alan Harper  Fresno State   

          5.19 OL  Jonathan Goodwin  Michigan     

 

2001  1.16 WR  Santana Moss     

          2.18 RB  LaMont Jordan  Maryland   

          3.17 OL  Kareem McKenzie  Penn State   

          4.06 DB  Jamie Henderson  Georgia   

          7.06 DL  James Reed  Iowa State   

          7.17 OL  Tupe Peko  Michigan State     

 

2000  1.12 DL  Shaun Ellis  Tennessee   

          1.13 DL  John Abraham  South Carolina   

          1.18 QB  Chad Pennington  Marshall   

          1.27 TE  Anthony Becht  West Virginia   

          3.16 WR  Laveranues Coles  Florida State   

          5.14 WR  Windrell Hayes  Southern California   

          6.13 DB  Tony Scott  North Carolina State   

          7.12 DL  Richard Seals  Utah   

 

[SoFlaJets]

The picture on the top is me reading and yes, weeping

[Klecko73isGod]

Ummm, its about 100 times better than the previous 20 years. 

[Bleedin Green]

Ummm, its about 100 times better than the previous 20 years. 

 

I have to say, for as much of a dumbass as Tanny was, that 2011 draft was pretty damn good.  Wilkerson is awesome and everyone else outside of McWhite was at minimum a solid pick.  Far better than 2010 (although I'm a far bigger Wilson fan than most).

[joewillie78]

Ummm, its about 100 times better than the previous 20 years. 

Are we catching up to Cleveland or Oakland?

[Lizard King]

I forgot that Allen was a 7th rounder. He's playing way over his draft level. Pretty impressive.

 

If you look in those first 4-5 drafts, a lot of those guys had entire careers here, very impressive.

 

The Woody era is kind of a non factor tbh. Bradway was a carryover

[stoicsentry]

2011, 2012 and 2013 all look good so far.

 

2006 was a good draft---2 long-lasting starters on OL and numerous roleplayers (Smith, Washington, Coleman). 2007 would have been great if we had all of our picks---Revis and Harris were two phenomenal choices.

[RutgersJetFan]

 

 

2003  1.04 DL  Dewayne Robertson  Kentucky  from CHI; trade draft picks 2003 1.13, 1.22 and 4.19

          2.21 LB  Victor Hobson  Michigan   

          3.21 RB  B.J. Askew  Michigan   

          5.05 DB  Derek Pagel  Iowa  from WAS; compensation KR-RB Chad Morton; (was from DAL via NE; trade draft picks)

          5.15 DL  Matt Walters  Miami  from KC; trade draft picks

          6.27 QB  Brooks Bollinger  Wisconsin  from KC; trade draft picks  

          7.23 OL  Dave Yovanovits  Temple     

 

 

Some people see this and see a glass half-empty, I look at it and see a two time AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

[Klecko73isGod]

Some people see this and see a glass half-empty, I look at it and see a two time AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

 

And that ain't nothin'!

[Stonehands]

We probably got a grade of a D from draft experts in 2011.

[BroadwayJoe12]

Some people see this and see a glass half-empty, I look at it and see a two time AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

 

Hobson won two? Niceeee. And to think I was underselling that draft all these years.

[Bleedin Green]

Some people see this and see a glass half-empty, I look at it and see a two time AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

 

And how can we forget the immortal Bollywood?

[JetsFanInDenver]

Its too early too make a call on last year's picks but other than that cannot see a single NFL caliber starting QB in all those other drafts.

[bitonti]

that 4x All Pro 5x Pro Bowler they got in 2007 was an above average pick. 

[Sperm Edwards]

There are a couple of obvious failures. But one thing that is hard to ignore is there are a lot of starters. A number of above-average ones at that.

I bet this matches up favorably to the team that's won the division almost every year during this era. This is why it's all about the QB. Hides dozens of errors in drafting and even more in coaching.

[Larz]

i'm so confused

 

I thought we blamed rex for everything

[nj meadowlands]

What the hell is the point of this? 

[joewillie78]

What the hell is the point of this? 

To prove that once in awhile, Stevie Wonder trips on something, and it doesn't hurt.

[slats]

The drafts from '08, '09, and '10 are the primary reason the roster here has gone completely to sh*t. Absolutely horrendous. Busts at #5 and #6 overall in back to back years, and not a single decent pick besides.

The first four picks in '11 are very good, though. Coples, Davis, and Allen are all nice picks in '12, but again, the trading away of fourth and fifth rounders hurt them that year. In '11, those rounds netted the team Kerley and Powell. You want to stockpile those kinds of picks, not trade them away.

[HessStation]

whatevs

[j4jets]

We probably got a grade of a D from draft experts in 2011.

 

Fox Sports

New York Jets: C+

Draft picks: DT Muhammad Wilkerson (first round), DT Kenrick Ellis (third round), RB Bilal Powell (fourth round), WR Jeremy Kerley (fifth round), QB Greg McElroy (seventh round), WR Scott McKnight (seventh round).

Analysis: The Jets addressed their defensive line depth, but missed out on addressing the receiver position high enough. It was also surprising that they didn’t add a pass rusher.

 

 

CBS Sports

New York Jets

Best pick: I like first-round pick Muhammad Wilkerson. He fits their scheme as a 3-4 end.

Questionable move: Not taking an outside rusher for their 3-4. They lack playmakers there and it's a vital spot on their defense.

Third-day gem: Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy is a smart, heady player who will make a nice backup for years to come.

Analysis: They went big with their first two picks, which is hard to criticize, but why not address the outside rush spot? Did they really need to use a fourth-round pick on a running back?

Grade: C

 

 

 

Yahoo - (graded in 2012)

New York Jets

The Jets have been a big disappointment in 2011. Yet the draft class hasn't been a big part of that reason.

Muhammad Wilkerson was the Jets first pick. The defensive end started right away and he has 29 tackles and a safety. Nose tackle Kenrick Ellis, their third round pick, has just played four games so far.

Halfback Bilal Powell was drafted in the fourth round and has just seven rushing attempts so far. Wide receiver Jeremy Kerley is now the third receiver on the team and has 18 catches. Kerley has also returned 18 punts.

The Jets had two picks in the seventh round. Quarterback Greg McElroy is on injured reserve, while wide receiver Scotty McKnight is on the practice squad.

Wilkerson has obviously had the biggest impact in this draft class, but Kerley was a nice find. His progress allowed the Jets to trade veteran Derrick Mason. The rest of the group has yet to help much, which drops the overall grade.

Grade : C -

 

 

ESPN

Mel Kiper - B

[T0mShane]

Woody Johnson is the dumber, poorer version of Jerry Jones. He shouldn't be at the Combine, he shouldn't be sitting in on player interviews, he shouldn't be hovering over his GM during training camp, he shouldn't be voting on who his head coach is, and he shouldn't be dictating personnel moves. He should shut his ******* face, sit in his luxury box next to his plasticized trophy wife, sign the checks, and wait around for Idzik to win him a Super Bowl. Any interference with the running of the team beyond that is detrimental to extremes. He sucks.

[Sperm Edwards]

Woody Johnson is the dumber, poorer version of Jerry Jones. He shouldn't be at the Combine, he shouldn't be sitting in on player interviews, he shouldn't be hovering over his GM during training camp, he shouldn't be voting on who his head coach is, and he shouldn't be dictating personnel moves. He should shut his ******* face, sit in his luxury box next to his plasticized trophy wife, sign the checks, and wait around for Idzik to win him a Super Bowl. Any interference with the running of the team beyond that is detrimental to extremes. He sucks.

Yep. Pretty much.

I don't know about the "poorer" part, but I don't think there's a thing either of these guys can't afford.

[ozzieny]

Anybody have any Pepto Bismol?

[SoFlaJets]

What the hell is the point of this? 

I'll tell you the point of this thread and it's the God's honest truth; I worked really hard on editing this post I was putting up in another thread and I figured that it was such great, and time consuming work  that it shouldn't be wasted on page 3 of a fast dying thread. So...here it is nj m...

[nj meadowlands]

I'll tell you the point of this thread and it's the God's honest truth; I worked really hard on editing this post I was putting up in another thread and I figured that it was such great, and time consuming work  that it shouldn't be wasted on page 3 of a fast dying thread. So...here it is nj m...

 

Lol well kudos to you for working hard, but combined with the thread title, I didn't get the point.  These drafts don't exactly amount to a huge "error".

[Bleedin Green]

There are a couple of obvious failures. But one thing that is hard to ignore is there are a lot of starters. A number of above-average ones at that.

I bet this matches up favorably to the team that's won the division almost every year during this era. This is why it's all about the QB. Hides dozens of errors in drafting and even more in coaching.

 

Yeah, if there were a top-level QB mixed somewhere in that list, nobody would give a crap about the rest of it.  That is now, and has been for a loooooooooooong time, the Jets #1 problem.

[Jetfanincanada]

I don't know, if you look at most other teams drafts over the same time period it would probably look like crap too. Also, how do you differentiate between drafting and player development? I mean, other than Rex, none of our coaches could really develop players in that time frame either. Thankfully we have a HC who can actually develop talent now.

[Bleedin Green]

Woody Johnson is the dumber, poorer version of Jerry Jones. He shouldn't be at the Combine, he shouldn't be sitting in on player interviews, he shouldn't be hovering over his GM during training camp, he shouldn't be voting on who his head coach is, and he shouldn't be dictating personnel moves. He should shut his ******* face, sit in his luxury box next to his plasticized trophy wife, sign the checks, and wait around for Idzik to win him a Super Bowl. Any interference with the running of the team beyond that is detrimental to extremes. He sucks.

 

While I get your general point, I think Jerry has to take the award for dumber considering at least Woody has never actually been stupid enough to make himself the f'n GM of his team (and president too).  That is its own special level of retard.

[SoFlaJets]

Woody Johnson is the dumber, poorer version of Jerry Jones. He shouldn't be at the Combine, he shouldn't be sitting in on player interviews, he shouldn't be hovering over his GM during training camp, he shouldn't be voting on who his head coach is, and he shouldn't be dictating personnel moves. He should shut his ******* face, sit in his luxury box next to his plasticized trophy wife, sign the checks, and wait around for Idzik to win him a Super Bowl. Any interference with the running of the team beyond that is detrimental to extremes. He sucks.

B-I-N-G-O     B-I-N-G-O    B-I-N-G-O and Woody is his name. NJ Meadowlands asked what the point of this thread is, well if he'd look a little closer he'd notice that the years listed just happen to coincide with a certain owner's tenure here so far. I think the only WORSE group of owners who could have gotten the Jets after Leon passed away is the Dolan group, with one major exception which in my book would make it a dead heat or even put them ahead : James Dolan at least would have gotten the Jets their own stadium with the words JETS STADIUM above the entranceway on the west side of Manhattan where all those dead cars and buses used to be stacked up and buried. Instead Woody Johnson cuts the same frigging deal and once more and forever more  , the "New York" Jets will remain the New Jersey Jets sharing a stadium with a better franchise that at least has won a few Championships since man first set foot on the moon. Woody Johnson is THE ABSOLUTE WORST owner of ANY major Metropolitan area sports team-without exception.

 

THAT nj-meadowland is the reason for this thread. Woody can't pick coaches, GMs, Asst coaches, or players-he should have done what his brother's son did and taken up philately (stamp collecting) or old-time map collecting, instead of driving old time Jets fans away in droves.

[nj meadowlands]

B-I-N-G-O     B-I-N-G-O    B-I-N-G-O and Woody is his name. NJ Meadowlands asked what the point of this thread is, well if he'd look a little closer he'd notice that the years listed just happen to coincide with a certain owner's tenure here so far. I think the only WORSE group of owners who could have gotten the Jets after Leon passed away is the Dolan group, with one major exception which in my book would make it a dead heat or even put them ahead : James Dolan at least would have gotten the Jets their own stadium with the words JETS STADIUM above the entranceway on the west side of Manhattan where all those dead cars and buses used to be stacked up and buried. Instead Woody Johnson cuts the same frigging deal and once more and forever more  , the "New York" Jets will remain the New Jersey Jets sharing a stadium with a better franchise that at least has won a few Championships since man first set foot on the moon. Woody Johnson is THE ABSOLUTE WORST owner of ANY major Metropolitan area sports team-without exception.

 

THAT nj-meadowland is the reason for this thread. Woody can't pick coaches, GMs, Asst coaches, or players-he should have done what his brother's son did and taken up philately (stamp collecting) or old-time map collecting, instead of driving old time Jets fans away in droves.

 

I couldn't really read this.  The syntax got lost in whining.

 

You still haven't provided one good reason why this thread makes any sense.  Let's see:

 

1) Woody Johnson doesn't draft the players.

2) These draft classes are not that bad.  There are a lot of good players.  Without going to do the "research" that you laboriously pained over, I would venture to guess that the Jets have drafted better than a lot of teams out there.

3) Woody Johnson is not my favorite person affiliate with the Jets to put it mildly.  Shane's rant about him his spot on.  But our drafting since he became owner has literally NOTHING to do with that.  Oh, and by the way, our drafts have not been that bad since he became owner.  Did I mention that?

4) Your thread about Woody Johnson and his drafts suddenly took a turn toward bitching and moaning about MetLife Stadium.  Can you at least stay on topic when you make a silly thread?

 

It seems the "point" of this thread is to bellyache about the fact that the Jets play in New Jersey, a fact that MANY of us here really, really, really like. 

 

So... in summary, this thread is

[SoFlaJets]

I couldn't really read this.  The syntax got lost in whining.

 

You still haven't provided one good reason why this thread makes any sense.  Let's see:

 

1) Woody Johnson doesn't draft the players.

2) These draft classes are not that bad.  There are a lot of good players.  Without going to do the "research" that you laboriously pained over, I would venture to guess that the Jets have drafted better than a lot of teams out there.

3) Woody Johnson is not my favorite person affiliate with the Jets to put it mildly.  Shane's rant about him his spot on.  But our drafting since he became owner has literally NOTHING to do with that.  Oh, and by the way, our drafts have not been that bad since he became owner.  Did I mention that?

4) Your thread about Woody Johnson and his drafts suddenly took a turn toward bitching and moaning about MetLife Stadium.  Can you at least stay on topic when you make a silly thread?

 

It seems the "point" of this thread is to bellyache about the fact that the Jets play in New Jersey, a fact that MANY of us here really, really, really like. 

 

So... in summary, this thread is

oh stop it, what are we children like the "dump this thread" purists over at JI? Judging every thread like we're some watcher of gladiator battles in ancient Rome with the power to end a thread's existence with a simple downward turn of a thumb? There's a simple solution; if you don't like a thread-leave there are 100,000 others to read and comment in. We all have our own feelings and opinions on this team, this owner, these coaches and players, and guess what-we're all partly right and most of the time wrong

[nj meadowlands]

fair

[joewillie78]

Woody Johnson is the dumber, poorer version of Jerry Jones. He shouldn't be at the Combine, he shouldn't be sitting in on player interviews, he shouldn't be hovering over his GM during training camp, he shouldn't be voting on who his head coach is, and he shouldn't be dictating personnel moves. He should shut his ******* face, sit in his luxury box next to his plasticized trophy wife, sign the checks, and wait around for Idzik to win him a Super Bowl. Any interference with the running of the team beyond that is detrimental to extremes. He sucks.

And you know whats really sad, No one and I mean no one looks more stupid in a Jets Baseball Cap than this idiot. He's the freaking owner of the JETS and he looks like a clown when ever I see him in Jets baseball cap.

 

The only other Jet that looks this bad is Buttfumble and his girly band.

[Sperm Edwards]

And you know whats really sad, No one and I mean no one looks more stupid in a Jets Baseball Cap than this idiot. He's the freaking owner of the JETS and he looks like a clown when ever I see him in Jets baseball cap.

 

The only other Jet that looks this bad is Buttfumble and his girly band.

The girly band is worse. Sanchez is an order of magnitude better-looking is all. Neither one likely tests at genius levels, though, and neither one of them is a good QB.