FloridaJetsFan Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Just read this on NFL.com. This Chris Wesseling really doesn't hold back his dislike of the Jets or their fans. Sounds like a real ass. By Chris Wesseling, Around the League Writer The New York Jets are setting Geno Smith up for failure. Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez may be long gone, but the Jets ensured that the circus would remain in town when they signed media magnet Michael Vick to a contract that suggests a greater role than caddy, mentor and clipboard-holder. Upon decamping from Philadelphia, Vick made it abundantly clear that his top priority of the offseason was ensuring his next job would be Week 1 starting quarterback -- regardless of locale. We might never know what Vick was promised to sign on the Jets' dotted line, but the team was reportedly preparing the message that he would be offered a chance to compete with Smith -- and nothing more. As this week's OTAs wrap up, it has become apparent that Vick and the Jets have divergent views on the meaning of competition. Minutes after coach Rex Ryan emphasized that his quarterback situation is "not a closed competition," Vick held firm to his claim that it's "not an open competition." There's a subtle but important distinction here. When Vick says it's not an open competition, what he wants the football world to know is that it's not a fair competition. It's rigged in Smith's favor from the start, as coordinator Marty Mornhinweg acknowledged Thursday. It's understandable that general manager John Idzik wants his second-round investment in Smith to pay off. The problem? There are two quarterbacks that are lead-pipe locks to become lightning rods if they open the season on the bench: Vick and Johnny Manziel. At the first sign of a Smith slump he will be looking over his shoulder at Vick, enveloped by the dissonant cacophony of catcalls from the home "faithful." If the Jets wanted to avoid a return bout with the bilious big top, they should have put their full support behind Smith rather than believing they could brainwash a determined Vick into toeing the company line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 At the first sign of a Smith slump he will be looking over his shoulder at Vick, enveloped by the dissonant cacophony of catcalls from the home "faithful." the home "Faithful." Yeah, you mean those fans who pay the highest ticket prices in the league. Those fans suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Lazy analysis, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I guess the other option would have been to sign no legitimate back up and roll with Matt Simms and Tahj Boyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You either can play or you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think the writers believe that if they call the team a circus enough and it will become a circus. It's such wishful thinking that the Jets and Rex Ryan can suck so they can just continually trash the team. Beyond annoying at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I guess the other option would have been to sign no legitimate back up and roll with Matt Simms and Tahj Boyd. the Jets should make it an open competition. Rigged competitions are Bulls--t. It's a football team not a coronation. The best player should play. If Vick stinks and Geno can't beat out Vick, what does it say about Geno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 If Vick stinks and Geno can't beat out Vick, what does it say about Geno? Round and round we go with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think the media writers are setting themselves up to fail by writing stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Every quarterback controversy since the beginning of time, regardless of what teams are involved, all have one thing in common. Mediocre quarterback play. Once they find someone who is no longer mediocre, all controversies end. Geno will have a crack to prove he can be that guy, if he can't they will call on Vick so that the season is not a total waste. That is basically what is going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids. Its obvious Idzik is trying to save face. By signing Vick, you have a bonafide starter and you can keep Eugene on the sidelines where he belongs. He wasn't ready last year, he wont be ready this year and really wont be ready any year. Vick will easily beat this scrub out and be the starter or take over early in the season. Idzik really blew it signing Eugene last year. So many other better qb's were available in this year's draft and Idzik AGAIN blew it by not drafting one of the top rated qb's available. Jimmy Garraplolo should have been a Jet Instead, he's a patriot. That alone speaks volumes. Idzik is a good caplogoist and like Tanny, a horrible GM when it comes to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Vick is probably better than Geno this year but if Geno is close and is showing signs of improvement, he has to start so we know whether to try again next year. So in that sense it is "rigged" and it should be. If Vick was 28 it would not be "rigged" because both would have some years ahead of them. I personally believe Vick will be so much better than Geno that the team will essentially be forced to start him. But time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids. Its obvious Idzik is trying to save face. By signing Vick, you have a bonafide starter and you can keep Eugene on the sidelines where he belongs. He wasn't ready last year, he wont be ready this year and really wont be ready any year. Vick will easily beat this scrub out and be the starter or take over early in the season. Idzik really blew it signing Eugene last year. So many other better qb's were available in this year's draft and Idzik AGAIN blew it by not drafting one of the top rated qb's available. Jimmy Garraplolo should have been a Jet Instead, he's a patriot. That alone speaks volumes. Idzik is a good caplogoist and like Tanny, a horrible GM when it comes to the draft. Yes Vick the bonafide starter, who lost his starting job last year, has had one season his entire career where he played all 16 games, and has a career completion percentage under 60%. And Idzik didn't sign Geno he drafted him in a slot a lot lower than most thought he would be available. It was a very good value pick. And Garrapollo, this guy shot up draft boards for what reason. He started the draft season as a 4th round pick and kept moving up draft boards. Why? Because he was great at Eastern Ilinois...awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 yeah, bringing in 7 WR's, a TE, 2 RB's, a RT and keeping last years vets was a real slap in the face for the QB then they bring in a veteran he grew up a fan of to mentor him assholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I dont really get the point of writing this drivel ? Two minutes of my life i will never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 In before T0mShame turns this into a Rex thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 In before T0mShame turns this into a Rex thread Parcells! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The Jets are doing fine by Geno. He is going to kick some ass and take some names this season, possibly emphasis on some. They should do one more thing and add Andre Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 If the Jets wanted to avoid a return bout with the bilious big top, they should have put their full support behind Smith rather than believing they could brainwash a determined Vick into toeing the company line. You might be a circus if....... your starting QB is shaky, so you bring in the best backup QB on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You might be setting your QB up to fail if.... you sign the top wide receiver and the top running back in free agency and draft the 2nd rated tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 All the teams in the AFC East seem set to fail. Buffalo went all in on EJ Manuel. Miami has no clue what they want to do. The Patriots haven't drafted well. OTOH this is probably said every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Yes Vick the bonafide starter, who lost his starting job last year, has had one season his entire career where he played all 16 games, and has a career completion percentage under 60%. And Idzik didn't sign Geno he drafted him in a slot a lot lower than most thought he would be available. It was a very good value pick. And Garrapollo, this guy shot up draft boards for what reason. He started the draft season as a 4th round pick and kept moving up draft boards. Why? Because he was great at Eastern Ilinois...awesome. Signed - draft- same difference. He belongs to Idzik just like Sanchez belonged to Tanny and that will be Idzik's demise. So I guess the Pats are morons for drafting Garrapolo when they could have filled that pick with a much higher need. They are very close to winning it all again. They 'waste' a 2nd round pick on a qb when they have Brady and Mallet. Seems like they know something about this kid that we didn't...but....not to worry...we have Eugene...woooop de do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 How are they setting him up to fail exactly ? They brought in the #1 receiver on the market, drafter a top 3 tight end in the draft as well as other receivers via draft and free agency. It's up to Geno to take the next step now, if not the Jets have insurance in Mike Vick which is exactly what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 For once, personnel wise, the roster on offense isn't horrific. If Amaro isn't a stiff I actually like what we're throwing out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You might be setting your QB up to fail if.... you sign the top wide receiver and the top running back in free agency and draft the 2nd rated tight end. Wait are you giving credit to Idzik right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Signed - draft- same difference. He belongs to Idzik just like Sanchez belonged to Tanny and that will be Idzik's demise. So I guess the Pats are morons for drafting Garrapolo when they could have filled that pick with a much higher need. They are very close to winning it all again. They 'waste' a 2nd round pick on a qb when they have Brady and Mallet. Seems like they know something about this kid that we didn't...but....not to worry...we have Eugene...woooop de do The Patriots draft history lately has been miserable, including Mallet who they can't trade. So I'm not sure why you think the Patriots know what they are doing when it comes to drafting right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 For once, personnel wise, the roster on offense isn't horrific. If Amaro isn't a stiff I actually like what we're throwing out there. I feel the same way. We can actually send a formidable offense out there and not only because of the players we've added but also because Marty will know what to do with them. He did a great job last year with a rookie QB and an anemic WR group. Should be fun to see what he can do with the offense we run out there this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I feel the same way. We can actually send a formidable offense out there and not only because of the players we've added but also because Marty will know what to do with them. He did a great job last year with a rookie QB and an anemic WR group. Should be fun to see what he can do with the offense we run out there this year. Kerley is secretly really good league wide. Decker is good...if he's better than good great for us. Cumberland doesnt suck....and even then the offense should be built around Ivory until his legs fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 You might be setting your QB up to fail if.... you sign the top wide receiver and the top running back in free agency and draft the 2nd rated tight end. You might be a circus if....... your starting QB is shaky, so you bring in the best backup QB on the market. THANKS IDZIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Signed - draft- same difference. He belongs to Idzik just like Sanchez belonged to Tanny and that will be Idzik's demise. So I guess the Pats are morons for drafting Garrapolo when they could have filled that pick with a much higher need. They are very close to winning it all again. They 'waste' a 2nd round pick on a qb when they have Brady and Mallet. Seems like they know something about this kid that we didn't...but....not to worry...we have Eugene...woooop de do Yeah, because after Brady, the Pats have a storied history of drafting QBs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Yeah, because after Brady, the Pats have a storied history of drafting QBs!!! They just started a new tradition of drafting QBs who are great to their mothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Yeah, because after Brady, the Pats have a storied history of drafting QBs!!! Drew Bledsoe would have a statue and a retired number here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Wait are you giving credit to Idzik right now? Credit where it's due. Still can't stand him, but Mehta/Cimini/Weasel-ing are worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 THANKS IDZIK We're missing a starting corner, a starting receiver and a starting guard. If only Idzik had some kind of resource at his disposal that he could use to fix those problems. Sadly, he only had $30 million to work with after he was done with the other signings. No GM in the world could find a starting receiver on this market for that kind of chump change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Enforcer Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I think the writers believe that if they call the team a circus enough and it will become a circus. It's such wishful thinking that the Jets and Rex Ryan can suck so they can just continually trash the team. Beyond annoying at this point. Very true PSP!! They are digging soooo hard because for the 1st time in the Jets organization they have nothing to go off of because of the new GM Idzik! I love it to say the least... I know many NY Jet fans are saying this is just another failed attempt to make a splash at a real consistent football team but I really believe that we have & will push this recipe to success.. The media wants to have headlines but the funny thing is they are looking like the unorganized foolz, (except for Vic not knowing when to shut up.. future Namath, lol) In all I do give credit to Idzik & what they are trying to accomplish.. its better than what we had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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