aec4 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Fuller was a Bear at the time of JETS drafting. My mistake, but cooks was on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 My mistake, but cooks was on the board. Oh no you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 19 Miami Dolphins Ja'wuan James OT Tennessee 20 New Orleans Saints Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State 21 Green Bay Packers Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Alabama 22 Cleveland Browns Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M 23 Kansas City Chiefs Dee Ford DE Auburn 24 Cincinnati Bengals Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State 25 San Diego Chargers Jason Verrett CB TCU 26 Philadelphia Eagles Marcus Smith OLB Louisville 27 Arizona Cardinals Deone Bucannon S Washington State 28 Carolina Panthers Kelvin Benjamin WR Florida State 29 New England Patriots Dominique Easley DT Florida 30 San Francisco 49ers Jimmie Ward S Northern Illinois 31 Denver Broncos Bradley Roby CB Ohio State 32 Minnesota Vikings Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville Here are the rest of the picks in round 1. I see a bunch of better players (and some worse or ones we didn't need) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "I took the guy who will knock your face in," Ryan said in a conference call Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Repped! You are a gentleman. GFY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 We could have had a pretty good corner in that position too. While we didn't have the best safeties in the league, we were OK there, but we drafted another. I thought Pryor would be OK, but he looks awful in coverage and he's always late to the party. Anyone who judges an NFL player after 6 games as a bust knows NOTHING about the pro game. This style of defense is very hard to step into coming from college. It's a well known fact. If you are giving up on Milliner because he's so injury prone, I can see that. But after a horrible start of 2013 he was defensive rookie of the month for December. Players develop in this league. May I apologize on behalf of Idzik for the fact that every draft pick isn't a pro bowler day one. Most other NFL GMs draft 90% probowlers, why can't John??? He only drafted the DROY his first at bat. Yeah he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 You are a gentleman. And you are my homeboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 And you are my homeboy. You got me so sooo bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 You got me so sooo bad. I think Pryor will end up being a good Safety fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yes bust. 4/5 first round busts in secondary under rex and the one hit they let walk. 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Anyone who judges an NFL player after 6 games as a bust knows NOTHING about the pro game. This style of defense is very hard to step into coming from college. It's a well known fact. If you are giving up on Milliner because he's so injury prone, I can see that. But after a horrible start of 2013 he was defensive rookie of the month for December. Players develop in this league. May I apologize on behalf of Idzik for the fact that every draft pick isn't a pro bowler day one. Most other NFL GMs draft 90% probowlers, why can't John??? He only drafted the DROY his first at bat. Yeah he sucks He had 12 picks this draft. How many are actually still on the roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanks9596 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Every time we are told to wait for a guy to develop, he never does. When a player can play they at least look the part right away. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "I took the guy who will knock your face in," Ryan said in a conference call Wednesday. Yup. But everyone wants to blame Idzik for the draft. This was cute when he said it about Connor on day 3. But a top 20 pick? No effin way is this meathead logic going to build us a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yup. But everyone wants to blame Idzik for the draft. This was cute when he said it about Connor on day 3. But a top 20 pick? No effin way is this meathead logic going to build us a contender. He is the only 1 to blame for the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yup. But everyone wants to blame Idzik for the draft. This was cute when he said it about Connor on day 3. But a top 20 pick? No effin way is this meathead logic going to build us a contender. Literally the amount of times with this guy putting his foot in his mouth. Pun works too, sure. Hopefully Pryor, at least, turns out to be a decent safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I hated the Pryor pick, the reason why is I believe he projects as a cover-2 SS, his skill set does not fit the Ryan defense. I think he may become a solid and perhaps an all-pro caliber - - - cover-2 SS...he'll need to add about 10 pounds of muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I hated the Pryor pick, the reason why is I believe he projects as a cover-2 SS, his skill set does not fit the Ryan defense. I think he may become a solid and perhaps an all-pro caliber - - - cover-2 SS...he'll need to add about 10 pounds of muscle. DUDE SO MUCH SWAGGER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 He had 12 picks this draft. How many are actually still on the roster? Please take two minutes and look back at the drafts leading up to the Seahawks championship season ...look at the previous four drafts and you will see how a championship team is built. You simply don't understand how it's done. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just not something you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Please take two minutes and look back at the drafts leading up to the Seahawks championship season ...look at the previous four drafts and you will see how a championship team is built. You simply don't understand how it's done. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just not something you get. I get it, pretty well actually. He's totally wiffed on 2 drafts. He's left 24M on the table that could have been used to build the team. It's time to move on to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hey, who knows, Idzick might pick someone good next year?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hey, who knows, Idzick might pick someone good next year?! Is the blind squirrel theory making you think this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Is the blind squirrel theory making you think this? Grasping for straws really - It's so depressing being a Jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Please take two minutes and look back at the drafts leading up to the Seahawks championship season ...look at the previous four drafts and you will see how a championship team is built. You simply don't understand how it's done. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just not something you get. Can you explain your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Not being a player worthy of your draft position is the definition of bust.Actually it's not. Unless you're looking to make a player who isn't a bust into a bust. Which almost as ridiculous as telling people over and over that you know what a player will be after only a handful of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 With Fuller (the CB, I think that's his name) on the board along with Cooks, it was a bad pick. Your last sentence is making my point for me. Pryor as a 3rd rounder would be fine, but as a 1st rounder, he's not. Pryor looks like he has no ball skills and can only play going forward towards the line. When the Jets move to a 4-3 next season Pryor should transition to weak side LB like Urlacher did in Chicago. LB seems like a better fit than safety for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 With Fuller (the CB, I think that's his name) on the board along with Cooks, it was a bad pick. Your last sentence is making my point for me. Pryor as a 3rd rounder would be fine, but as a 1st rounder, he's not. Kyle Fuller went 14 to the Bears -- he was not on the board when we picked. At 18, I was hoping for either the CB Dennard or Cooks. Too early to call Pryor a bust, but from what I have seen, he takes poor angles and I have not seen the ball skills I was hoping he had. He looks to me like an in the box Safety who appears to be playing out of position. I hope I am wrong and he improves as the season wears on, but IMO he is not looking like a good pick right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Why do all these young non-DL players struggle?!??? V. like omg why do other teams always pick guys that don't need coaching and discipline??? #unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Kyle Fuller went 14 to the Bears -- he was not on the board when we picked. At 18, I was hoping for either the CB Dennard or Cooks. Too early to call Pryor a bust, but from what I have seen, he takes poor angles and I have not seen the ball skills I was hoping he had. He looks to me like an in the box Safety who appears to be playing out of position. I hope I am wrong and he improves as the season wears on, but IMO he is not looking like a good pick right now. I think in general, its easier for a safety to play in the box out the gates in the league. Especially if you're a player like Pryor. Its easier to play at the LOS. Learning how to be an enforcer on the back end is tough business. Especially nowadays with the rules and especially when you're playing Rodgers, Cutler, Stafford, Rivers, Manning, Brady out the gates. These guys all know how to look off a safety and move guess open with their eyes. Its just hard to cover immediately in this league. Pyror will be fine. Maybe never a great. Certainly not worthy of passing on Cooks or Benji but I think with Allen getting some time really learning how to cover and Pryor being thrown to the fire might benefit the secondary once they find some corners who can actually play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Too early on prior but geno has been weighed and measured and has been found lacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Why do all these young non-DL players struggle?!??? V. like omg why do other teams always pick guys that don't need coaching and discipline??? #unlucky Are you asking me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 To boot, it seems like Clinton-Dix has out played Pryor to this point. Just from reading a couple of what seems like somewhat positive reviews so far, on Clinton-Dix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 To boot, it seems like Clinton-Dix has out played Pryor to this point. Just from reading a couple of what seems like somewhat positive reviews so far, on Clinton-Dix.its also fair to assume Dix was coached, and held to a standard all spring/summer....not exposed to club Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Can you explain your point? I will post a thread breaking down the 4-5 years leading into the Seahawks 2013 season. How the team was built. Idzik is following this approach exactly. It's proven to work over, and over and over. Please read the thread and share your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Bingo. Not someone you pass on Brandin Cooks and Kelvin Benjamin for in the slightest. especially when you are in dire need to offensive playmakers. But hey we got Idzik who waits for the 4th round to pick WR's non of which are on the field. What a ******* joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Keep patting yourselves on the back about Pryor not being developed. Give me a ******* break. How many of you sat here and said "I didn't want this pick" "I didn't want a safety" "Rex didn't develop him" Ridiculous. The kid has looked fine and guys like Dennard have not even played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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