WickedAwesome Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 You're really struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The Pats still aren't the most penalized team this year. The Seahawks were the most penalized team last year and won the SB penalties are only a huge problem when your QB is inept. At that point, every little mistake seems like a game-ender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The Seahawks were the most penalized team last year and won the SB penalties are only a huge problem when your QB is inept. At that point, every little mistake seems like a game-ender. Thanks. bit's obviously having a completely different conversation than the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 penalties are only a huge problem when your QB is inept. Pretty sure coaches would say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The Seahawks were the most penalized team last year and won the SB penalties are only a huge problem when your QB is inept. At that point, every little mistake seems like a game-ender. Or when huge swathes of your defense are inept. Those PI calls the Patriots used to get on defense back in the 2011 season were brutal because our defense couldn't stop a nose bleed as is. With the addition of Revis and Browner, these penalties just haven't seemed to matter. In fact, in some of our games they just prolongued the defensive domination which has been fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 No they aren't. They are 4th in number and 2nd in yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Thanks. bit's obviously having a completely different conversation than the rest of us. http://www.nflpenalties.com/ The Patriots are 4th in the league for penalties, 2nd in yards. Doesn't really fit well with your conspiracy theory that Kraft is paying off officials. Question: Do you think Kraft physically pays them cash out in the parking lot or are swiss bank accounts involved? Walk me through the process of NFL corruption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 who you calling bad pal? We are the best damn 3-12 team in NFL history. The best 3-12 is a silly statement but with this crappy roster these games were pretty much in the tank, Packs, Bears, Lyons, 2-Pats games, Dolphins, Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 http://www.nflpenalties.com/ The Patriots are 4th in the league for penalties, 2nd in yards. Doesn't really fit well with your conspiracy theory that Kraft is paying off officials. Question: Do you think Kraft physically pays them cash out in the parking lot or are swiss bank accounts involved? Walk me through the process of NFL corruption Yeah... I didn't claim a conspiracy. YOU said the Pats were the most penalized team in the league... you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Problem-Your analysis is from 2008 Lol http://www.nflpenalties.com/ The Patriots are 4th in the league for penalties, 2nd in yards. Doesn't really fit well with your conspiracy theory that Kraft is paying off officials. That poster reminds me of one of those 9/11 truthers..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 It might be off by 10 degrees - not much more. Which will make it very close. But everything else about the play was strange too - not just the camera angle. Like The non-call at the chains by the Ref The chain gang not moving the chains after the play The actual spot The lack of any explanation One other thing I don't think anyone has mentioned. I recall after the measurement was complete the official grabbed the chain with his fingers about an inch from the stick, just like they do when there is only a very short distance to gain, so the ball can be re'spotted accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Most of pats penalties have come on defensive side, primarily MR Browner who holds on every play. Holding calls on OL are drive killers, for the lack of talent on Pats OL, they are rarely called. Jets DL dominated them yesterday, how many holding calls were made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Most of pats penalties have come on defensive side, primarily MR Browner who holds on every play. Holding calls on OL are drive killers, for the lack of talent on Pats OL, they are rarely called. Jets DL dominated them yesterday, how many holding calls were made? ZERO. Come on - we all know the Patsies don't hold on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 ZERO. Come on - we all know the Patsies don't hold on the OL. Yep as I would have guessed, and with the Jets Dline dominating play, refs couldn't find 1 holding call on this POS patsies OL lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 NFL should determine attendance based on the number of fans going through the turnstiles, and not the number of tickets sold. And subtract the number of visiting teams jerseys. So called die hard Jets fans sold about half the stadium to the visiting team. The half that were there were waving Fire Idzik towels. Yeah, great fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 And subtract the number of visiting teams jerseys. So called die hard Jets fans sold about half the stadium to the visiting team. The half that were there were waving Fire Idzik towels. Yeah, great fan base. NFL should determine attendance based on the number of fans going through the turnstiles, and not the number of tickets sold. And subtract the number of visiting teams jerseys. So called die hard Jets fans sold about half the stadium to the visiting team. The half that were there were waving Fire Idzik towels. Yeah, great fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 There were very few Cowboy fans up here, I knew two. There were and still are a lot of giant fans, my father was a giants fan and so were a lot of friends parents. And it is kind of hard to say if they are fair weather fans, If your 40 years old all you remember is The pats going to the SB in 86 and then Kraft and Parells more than 20 years ago. that is a whole generation that grew up with the Pats as the dominate team in the division. If you want to see a real fan base go to Oakland. Oakland Coliseum was packed yesterday with fans roaring and they had nothing to root for going on 13 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 the ref also held his hands two inches apart, signaling that they were short bad angle my azz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 the ref also held his hands two inches apart, signaling that they were short bad angle my azz The first words out of Mike Westhoff's mouth in the post game interview was about the officiating of this particular play and it's aftermath. " I don't want that official measuring gimme putts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 how about make the kick or stop the past* on 3rd and 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 BTW, If the angle of the famous photo of the measurement is wrong, someone must have an accurate photo. Surely someone else either took a photo or has some video from a "better" angle. No? No one? Crickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 how about make the kick or stop the past* on 3rd and 1 Yeah, yeah. We all know that. Simply commentating on one particular sequence of the game that was strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, yeah. We all know that. Simply commentating on one particular sequence of the game that was strange. then stop the guy a foot sooner and it isn't an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 then stop the guy a foot sooner and it isn't an issue Again... I think you are missing the point of the discussion. The Jets lost the game for a variety of reasons - not this one play. The thread is a commentary on the strange set of circumstances that occurred, not a commentary on why the Jets lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Again... I think you are missing the point of the discussion. The Jets lost the game for a variety of reasons - not this one play. The thread is a commentary on the strange set of circumstances that occurred, not a commentary on why the Jets lost. there is nothing strange about it. they guy who had his face 12" from the marker and the ball called it a first down. that's his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 there is nothing strange about it. they guy who had his face 12" from the marker and the ball called it a first down. that's his job Actually, I think that was the guy who grabbed the chain with his fingers about an inch from the stick, as if he was preparing to re-spot the ball accurately for the upcoming 4th down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jprepo1 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 the real issue was letting Amendoolah getting so close to 1st down marker, jets are not stopping cindy on a 4th and 2 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 It was a lousy call but Rex shouldn't have challenged it. Pats would have converted the 4th and inches anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 or further, with 4 minutes left and the PATS have the ball, the chances of the great REX defense getting a stop are also moot. It will be a breathe of fresh air not to hear 25 times every game what a great defensive mind Rex is. His defenses over the 6 years rarely came up with a big stop in a last minutes of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 It was a lousy call but Rex shouldn't have challenged it. Pats would have converted the 4th and inches anyway. that's no guarantee. it's never a guarantee. just ask the 1968 Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 It will be a breathe of fresh air not to hear 25 times every game what a great defensive mind Rex is. His defenses over the 6 years rarely came up with a big stop in a last minutes of a game. if REX and Herm had the same record since 2011...people would be calling for Herms head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 It will be a breathe of fresh air not to hear 25 times every game what a great defensive mind Rex is. His defenses over the 6 years rarely came up with a big stop in a last minutes of a game. The beginning of discussion of disbelief in the vaunted defense of the Rex, the Emperor in no clothes for me began in the late stages of a game in Denver when he and his defensive schemes allowed the incredibly incompetent Timmy Tebow to slash and dash and even pass for 95 yards or so to score the winning TD for the Broncos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 It was a lousy call but Rex shouldn't have challenged it. Pats would have converted the 4th and inches anyway. Over the last 3 years, Rex is 6-21 in challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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