drdetroit Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Calling it now. their db's can run with anyone, they have a pass rush and can't be run on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Calling it now. their db's can run with anyone, they have a pass rush and can't be run on like it or not. defense still wins championships. if denvers defense keeps this pace up, they are super bowl bound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 like it or not. defense still wins championships. I miss that crazy Dolphins fan, here in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 you can't invoke 2000 ravens unless teams are actually afraid to play them they shut out 4 teams during the regular season and were giving up only 60 yards rushing per game and gave up 165 points for the SEASON denver is giving up 90 yards a game rushing, has given up 112 points in 7 games and not a single shut out c'mon man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfan4life_1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 denver is giving up 90 yards a game rushing, c'mon man JETS is giving up 78 --just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Calling it now. their db's can run with anyone, they have a pass rush and can't be run on impossible..... They don't have REX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 you can't invoke 2000 ravens unless teams are actually afraid to play them they shut out 4 teams during the regular season and were giving up only 60 yards rushing per game and gave up 165 points for the SEASON denver is giving up 90 yards a game rushing, has given up 112 points in 7 games and not a single shut out c'mon man game is different now...even from only 15 years ago. 2000 ravens dont only give up 165 points in todays game either. the rules have progressively become so pro-offense that defense has almost become optional for some teams as they have decided to just try to outscore their opponents instead of actually really being able to stop them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 like it or not. defense still wins championships. if denvers defense keeps this pace up, they are super bowl bound What planet are you living on? If you can't score in today's NFL, you won't be winning the Super Bowl It's all about the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 The 2000 Ravens were playing a different sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I would say best since the 2013 Seahawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 JETS is giving up 78 --just saying jets can't rush the passer. the ravens would stuff the run then kill your QB game is different now...even from only 15 years ago. 2000 ravens dont only give up 165 points in todays game either. the rules have progressively become so pro-offense that defense has almost become optional for some teams as they have decided to just try to outscore their opponents instead of actually really being able to stop them then don't evoke the 2000 ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 The 2000 Ravens were playing a different sport. That was before the cheating started in earnest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Nope, they're just the best defense this year better than the best defenses of other years but nothing that will leave a mark. Here's the test, in 15 years will people be saying "...as good as the 2015 Bronco's D?" I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 like it or not. defense still wins championships. if denvers defense keeps this pace up, they are super bowl bound In the 2015 NFL that is not even remotely true. You win SBs with offense and a team that plays situationally well in the playoffs. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 you can't invoke 2000 ravens unless teams are actually afraid to play them they shut out 4 teams during the regular season and were giving up only 60 yards rushing per game and gave up 165 points for the SEASON denver is giving up 90 yards a game rushing, has given up 112 points in 7 games and not a single shut out c'mon man I agree. The Denver defense is probably the best this year and one of the best the past few years, but that 2000 Ravens squad was arguably the best of all time. Denver's defense is nowhere near that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I agree. The Denver defense is probably the best this year and one of the best the past few years, but that 2000 Ravens squad was arguably the best of all time. Denver's defense is nowhere near that level. '86 Bears defense was better than the '00 Ravens defense. That 4-6 defense was nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 '86 Bears defense was better than the '00 Ravens defense. That 4-6 defense was nasty. funny story about that team. when they humilated the terrified pussy pats* I won $750 in a pool. the best part was it was 2 different boxes that paid off, and the safety put me in the money and the 2nd half shut out was a gravy train I don't think I've ever seen a football team as scared as those pussy pats* lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 funny story about that team. when they humilated the terrified pussy pats* I won $750 in a pool. the best part was it was 2 different boxes that paid off, and the safety put me in the money and the 2nd half shut out was a gravy trainI don't think I've ever seen a football team as scared as those pussy pats* lol Those were the old days. Pats, and Pats fans, were kinda happy just to play in the Super Bowl. Kinda like Jets fans today who are just happy to back into the 6th playoff seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Those were the old days. Pats, and Pats fans, were kinda happy just to play in the Super Bowl. Kinda like Jets fans today who are just happy to back into the 6th playoff seed. so you admit those pussies were afraid cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 so you admit those pussies were afraidcool Of course, I'll never forget the look on Tony Eason's face. He was scared $hitless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Defense is meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 What planet are you living on? If you can't score in today's NFL, you won't be winning the Super Bowl It's all about the QB. In the 2015 NFL that is not even remotely true. You win SBs with offense and a team that plays situationally well in the playoffs. Period. you guys are drunk already? the broncos defense is playing lights out. how did the patriots lose 3 super bowls? good defenses don't win championships. great defenses do. hence the comparison to the 2000 ravens. great defenses don't come around too often. great qb's play every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 '86 Bears defense was better than the '00 Ravens defense. That 4-6 defense was nasty. I did say "arguably". The fact that they're in the discussion makes my point. No one is putting this Denver defense in that conversation based on what we've seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Why the hell are we running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I did say "arguably". The fact that they're in the discussion makes my point. No one is putting this Denver defense in that conversation based on what we've seen so far. Yep, the conversation comes down to the '86 Bears versus the '00 Ravens. It comes down to a matter of opinion, they are the 2 best defenses that the NFL has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Yes that Broncos D that has given up 17 first half points to the Colts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 jets can't rush the passer. the ravens would stuff the run then kill your QB then don't evoke the 2000 ravens Jets had 45 sacks last year. We're at about 16 this year 2000 Ravens had 35 sacks. I think sometimes we see what we want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Yep, the conversation comes down to the '86 Bears versus the '00 Ravens. It comes down to a matter of opinion, they are the 2 best defenses that the NFL has ever seen. '85 Bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Remember we kicked the crap out of this Colts team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 NOT today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 LOL Colts give up a punt return TD up 17-0 at the end of the first half. That's worse than what we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Mush strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Jets had 45 sacks last year. We're at about 16 this year 2000 Ravens had 35 sacks. I think sometimes we see what we want to see. pass rush was great today. if they keep that up, they will be a tough out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 pass rush was great today. if they keep that up, they will be a tough out It was good today. They look great vs bad olines, OK vs OK olines, and dreadful against and good one. Sent from my Venue 8 7840 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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