Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The Jets, in my lifetime, have always displayed odd fixations with coaches, scouts, players, and the like... Never knowing when to cut bait (fire Rex 2 years sooner and hire Arians, Schotty), and always retaining and promoting the wrong guys. Here's a guy the Jets retained through several regimes, never gave him the big promotion, and look at the job he is doing in KC. It's no wonder Jet fans have this complex about worrying that every ex-Jet going on to do great things... Like Farrior and Woodhead. This franchise loves to damage their fans, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Here's a guy the Jets retained through several regimes, never gave him the big promotion, and look at the job he is doing in KC. He was our defensive coordinator when Mangini was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The Jets, in my lifetime, have always displayed odd fixations with coaches, scouts, players, and the like... Never knowing when to cut bait (fire Rex 2 years sooner and hire Arians, Schotty), and always retaining and promoting the wrong guys. Here's a guy the Jets retained through several regimes, never gave him the big promotion, and look at the job he is doing in KC. It's no wonder Jet fans have this complex about worrying that every ex-Jet going on to do great things... Like Farrior and Woodhead. This franchise loves to damage their fans, lol From the LBs coach, he became the DC n then eventually the assistant HC. Which "big promotion" did he get in KC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The Jets, in my lifetime, have always displayed odd fixations with coaches, scouts, players, and the like... Never knowing when to cut bait (fire Rex 2 years sooner and hire Arians, Schotty), and always retaining and promoting the wrong guys. Here's a guy the Jets retained through several regimes, never gave him the big promotion, and look at the job he is doing in KC. It's no wonder Jet fans have this complex about worrying that every ex-Jet going on to do great things... Like Farrior and Woodhead. This franchise loves to damage their fans, lol I hope you know that Sutton and his scheme are heavily influenced by Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He was our defensive coordinator when Mangini was here. Mangini stripping the play calling from Sutton near the end of 2008 and actually making the defense much worse was probably one of the final nails in Mangini's coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 He was our defensive coordinator when Mangini was here. Oh, I thought we kept him buried as a position coach, LBers? I dunno, I can't remember... Either way, the part about Jet fan complex stands, hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 I hope you know that Sutton and his scheme are heavily influenced by Rex. Yea, so? Rex's scheme is good. These days Sutton seems to run it better. Rex is still an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Mangini stripping the play calling from Sutton near the end of 2008 and actually making the defense much worse was probably one of the final nails in Mangini's coffin. Completely forgot about this. Sheesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Mangini stripping the play calling from Sutton near the end of 2008 and actually making the defense much worse was probably one of the final nails in Mangini's coffin. Wow, Never heard about this...Just remember we had to ride Farves iron man games streak on his broken arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He learned Rex's system and put his own personal touch on it. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He and Mangini were totally responsible for the jets implosion in the favre year. They totally lost their nerve and went with a 3 man rush game after game, aholes. Sutton good with kc? great, kc is going to get ass kicked when they play a team with a pulse. Brian hoyer? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Good For Bob, but look at the talent level on that D, even Rex could coach them to top 5.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Good For Bob, but look at the talent level on that D, even Rex could coach them to top 5.. I'm bummed that Maclin got hurt, KC is a nightmare team for the Patriots if their healthy. They have a QB that can run, they scheme to get the ball out quickly, will threaten the edges, they have a TE, they have defensive speed on the edges, power in the middle & a really, really good secondary. No way the Jets beat the Texans 30-0, in Houston. Pats better hope their Oline is healthy. Who knows, this is the NFL so the powers that be will be overprotective of Brady, but KC has the players to overwhelm a bad Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'm bummed that Maclin got hurt, KC is a nightmare team for the Patriots if their healthy. They have a QB that can run, they scheme to get the ball out quickly, will threaten the edges, they have a TE, they have defensive speed on the edges, power in the middle & a really, really good secondary. No way the Jets beat the Texans 30-0, in Houston. Pats better hope their Oline is healthy. Who knows, this is the NFL so the powers that be will be overprotective of Brady, but KC has the players to overwhelm a bad Oline. Pretty sure KC was the team that walloped New England in like week 3 last year when everyone thought the Pats were done (even though they came back to win the SB). It might be a bad matchup for NE (though nobody in their right mind would count out Belchick/Brady at home in the post-season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The Jets, in my lifetime, have always displayed odd fixations with coaches, scouts, players, and the like... Never knowing when to cut bait (fire Rex 2 years sooner and hire Arians, Schotty), and always retaining and promoting the wrong guys. Here's a guy the Jets retained through several regimes, never gave him the big promotion, and look at the job he is doing in KC. It's no wonder Jet fans have this complex about worrying that every ex-Jet going on to do great things... Like Farrior and Woodhead. This franchise loves to damage their fans, lol Ive said this a thousand times and get laughed at. Its NOT the players, its management. Over 20 - 45 years, teams like Browns, Lions, Jets, etc..have similar opportunity than PITT, GB, even Saints. The difference is the decisions management makes. Our 2008 -2010 draft are perfect examples. Letting Cotch walk, Letting Favre walk, signing Holmes, Plaxico, Sanchez again. Cam Newton was a fragile QB 1st few years, Panthers knew to develop him. We hire REX, throw Mark to the wolves . Just one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Good For Bob, but look at the talent level on that D, even Rex could coach them to top 5.. and how did that talent get there? walk ons from Pace University? Management had a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Ive said this a thousand times and get laughed at. Its NOT the players, its management. Over 20 - 45 years, teams like Browns, Lions, Jets, etc..have similar opportunity than PITT, GB, even Saints. The difference is the decisions management makes. Our 2008 -2010 draft are perfect examples. Letting Cotch walk, Letting Favre walk, signing Holmes, Plaxico, Sanchez again. Cam Newton was a fragile QB 1st few years, Panthers knew to develop him. We hire REX, throw Mark to the wolves . Just one example. Great Post!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Ive said this a thousand times and get laughed at. Its NOT the players, its management. Over 20 - 45 years, teams like Browns, Lions, Jets, etc..have similar opportunity than PITT, GB, even Saints. The difference is the decisions management makes. Our 2008 -2010 draft are perfect examples. Letting Cotch walk, Letting Favre walk, signing Holmes, Plaxico, Sanchez again. Cam Newton was a fragile QB 1st few years, Panthers knew to develop him. We hire REX, throw Mark to the wolves . Just one example. You nailed it! How many good teams don't have their first rd picks from 2008, 2009,2010 or 2012 still on their roster? Or have anybody from 2009 or 2010 drafts even on the damn team? Mac has a long road ahead to restock this sorry ass organization. That's why not being able to take advantage of this wacky season hurts so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You nailed it! How many good teams don't have their first rd picks from 2008, 2009,2010 or 2012 still on their roster? Or have anybody from 2009 or 2010 drafts even on the damn team? Mac has a long road ahead to restock this sorry ass organization. That's why not being able to take advantage of this wacky season hurts so much. l;ast nights Bengals fukk up is another example. I cant remember ever seeing that behavior from PITT, GB, even the PATS. Somewhere along the way, Jones job was NEVER put in jeopardy and he then tweets after the game? Lewis needs to go. He is REX 2.0 with talent. Cutting Coples was a GREAT move. Agreed on your post, yet we have that UNC imposter and others defend Tanny and cite 2 AFC runs. Great teams view that as failure. Philly had 4 of them and they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He and Mangini were totally responsible for the jets implosion in the favre year. They totally lost their nerve and went with a 3 man rush game after game, aholes. Sutton good with kc? great, kc is going to get ass kicked when they play a team with a pulse. Brian hoyer? Really? This, I think. Sutton was not s good DC here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yea, so? Rex's scheme is good. These days Sutton seems to run it better. Rex is still an idiot. If we only could have beat the idiot once this season we would have been in the playoffs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southparkcpa Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If we only could have beat the idiot once this season we would have been in the playoffs.. He took a 9 win team and made them an 8 win team. All defensive stats got worse under REX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 If we only could have beat the idiot once this season we would have been in the playoffs.. you don't say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He and Mangini were totally responsible for the jets implosion in the favre year. They totally lost their nerve and went with a 3 man rush game after game, aholes. Sutton good with kc? great, kc is going to get ass kicked when they play a team with a pulse. Brian hoyer? Really? Yeah, the OP is a load of ahistorical monkey sh*t. Everyone despised Sutton because he played too soft. The entire fanbase spent much of January 2008 hoping that Rob Ryan would shake loose from the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nice change of what I posted.. Did you realize the only time Mangini had a winning season is when he had a easy schedule due to a 4-12 season the year before?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 KC defensive personnel is really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nice change of what I posted.. Did you realize the only time Mangini had a winning season is when he had a easy schedule due to a 4-12 season the year before?? 1. Mangini had two winning seasons out of three. That's 66% 2. Rex had two winning seasons in 7. That's 26%. But, hey, keep slapping asterisks on those coaching records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He and Mangini were totally responsible for the jets implosion in the favre year. They totally lost their nerve and went with a 3 man rush game after game, aholes. Sutton good with kc? great, kc is going to get ass kicked when they play a team with a pulse. Brian hoyer? Really? Brian Hoyer made Bob Sutton, a totally mediocre DC, look like a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 1. Mangini had two winning seasons out of three. That's 66% 2. Rex had two winning seasons in 7. That's 26%. But, hey, keep slapping asterisks on those coaching records. and Mangini had nothing but losing seasons in Cleveland -- 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 and Mangini had nothing but losing seasons in Cleveland -- 0% :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 mangini's defense looked great this year going 5-11 after being in a NFCG 2 seasons ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 1. Mangini had two winning seasons out of three. That's 66% 2. Rex had two winning seasons in 7. That's 26%. But, hey, keep slapping asterisks on those coaching records. Mangini went 9-7 with a HOF QB with a 4-12 schedule and no Brady in 2008.. Plus the QB he got rid of won the East at 11-5 and he barely beat a Pat team once without Brady in overtime who was starting for the first time in his career.. Oh yeah Mangini was a great HC.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Mangini went 9-7 with a HOF QB with a 4-12 schedule and no Brady in 2008.. Plus the QB he got rid of won the East at 11-5 and he barely beat a Pat team once without Brady in overtime who was starting for the first time in his career.. Oh yeah Mangini was a great HC.. the crazy thing is Mangini is going to get yet another opportunity to be a head coach next year. Too many job openings, too many dumb GM's like Tanenbaum and not enough quality candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Mangini went 9-7 with a HOF QB with a 4-12 schedule and no Brady in 2008.. Plus the QB he got rid of won the East at 11-5 and he barely beat a Pat team once without Brady in overtime who was starting for the first time in his career.. Oh yeah Mangini was a great HC.. Mangini > Wrecks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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