slats Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You really think the league will overlook a player high on dope, with a gun in the car, evading police, going 143MPH with a 12-year old child in the car? Good luck with that. If there were any evidence at all that he was high, he would've been charged with a DWI. He wasn't. He sped, and eventually pulled over. In the end, it's a traffic ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Need to keep Mo and Sheldon Cap says no, when you add in Williams and Snacks as well.It's either or, a decision has to be made. Richardson is a moron which is always cause for concern, but he's a better pass rusher. They all are gonna want to get paid once their rookie deals expire. You cannot devote that much cap space to 1 unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 So who was smoking dope in the car? The 12 year old kid? There are other adults in the car. Richardson wasn't charged with smoking marijuana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If there were any evidence at all that he was high, he would've been charged with a DWI. He wasn't. He sped, and eventually pulled over. In the end, it's a traffic ticket. Oh, so we should feel better about his idiocy? Please. He is lucky there so far is no reliable on site drug test for cops that has been accepted by American courts yet.Cop has to get a court order for a blood tests, and they only do that in cases of accidents in most states. He's a stupid moron, but one that so far is a better pass rusher than Mo. That's really the choice. WIlkerson is a more solid citizen and all around DL guy, but he isn't as good a rush guy as Richardson. Though given that offsides last week it's not a gimme decision. It could go either way, but it will be either or, not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Oh, so we should feel better about his idiocy? Please. He is lucky there so far is no reliable on site drug test for cops that has been accepted by American courts yet.Cop has to get a court order for a blood tests, and they only do that in cases of accidents in most states. He's a stupid moron, but one that so far is a better pass rusher than Mo. That's really the choice. WIlkerson is a more solid citizen and all around DL guy, but he isn't as good a rush guy as Richardson. Though given that offsides last week it's not a gimme decision. It could go either way, but it will be either or, not both. ¿Que? I was responding to the likelihood of him being suspended. Holy tangent, Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 ¿Que? I was responding to the likelihood of him being suspended. Holy tangent, Batman. He's simply lucky there is no easy foolproof way for cops to test people for being high, unlike intoxication on booze. He was almost certainly driving while high and he is in fact a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The goal for 2016 is to improve by two games and challenge NEfor the AFC East. To do that Maccagnan & Bowles will need to make hard decisions and evaluate our personnel critically. Wedidn't generate consistent pressure last year so I won't be shocked if we change our front seven, emphasizing our LB's nextyear over our DLine. If that's the case we'll need 2-3 speedyLB's between free agency and the draft. So trading Wilkersonis definitely on the table particularly if you get a #1 likewe did when we traded Abraham to ATL back in 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If there were any evidence at all that he was high, he would've been charged with a DWI. He wasn't. He sped, and eventually pulled over. In the end, it's a traffic ticket. Police report said there was a strong odor of marijuana coming from the car. Must have been that damn 12-year old kid. He wasn't just speeding, he was evading the police going 143 MPH with his lights out with a 12-year old kid in the car. Speeding is going 65 in a 55 zone, you don't see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I happen to think we can do both the OL and get that elusive QB we have been looking for. It will take at least 2 years of waiting, but it can be done . Drafting a RB in the 1st round will screw up the entire Jets 2016 draft. they better not go RB in round one. Totally unnecessary to grab one that early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Police report said there was a strong odor of marijuana coming from the car. Must have been that damn 12-year old kid. He wasn't just speeding, he was evading the police going 143 MPH with his lights out with a 12-year old kid in the car. Speeding is going 65 in a 55 zone, you don't see the difference? Between a poster and a troll? In the end, it's a ticket. Speeding. No matter how much drama you'd like to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 they better not go RB in round one. Totally unnecessary to grab one that early. You need explosive players on offense...If there's a RB worthy of a first round grade when they pick - he should absolutely be considered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Franchise tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You need explosive players on offense...If there's a RB worthy of a first round grade when they pick - he should absolutely be considered... not on your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You need explosive players on offense...If there's a RB worthy of a first round grade when they pick - he should absolutely be considered... we're going qb or OLB round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 not on your life. Not on my life what? I don't understand this logic....I get that you can often find RB's in later rounds, but guys like Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch and young Chris Johnson happen. If you find a RB that you believe can play on a level like that - you absolutely take him...This team is in desperate need of explosive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 we're going qb or OLB round 1 I would be fine with QB - I just feel like we havre to go offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I would be fine with QB - I just feel like we havre to go offense... we need speed at LB Harris and Pace are too slow and we can't play zone or when we do they get exposed get a fast LB round 1 and Cardale rd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 What is the fascination with this fat turd from OSU ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Not on my life what? I don't understand this logic....I get that you can often find RB's in later rounds, but guys like Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch and young Chris Johnson happen. If you find a RB that you believe can play on a level like that - you absolutely take him...This team is in desperate need of explosive players. Well ISIS has these vests that.. On second thought never mind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Except Bowles seems to like Sheldon said he's his most versatile Lineman plus can play LB'er on certain plays.. Sheldon is not a good LB. He's adequate because he is an athletic freak but he is wasted at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Sheldon is not a good LB. He's adequate because he is an athletic freak but he is wasted at LB. I agree Bowles just had him there for certain plays.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 No way 8 games. 2-4 tops. yes 8 games 4-2 odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I would look to trade Richardson on his expiring rookie way before I trade Mo Wilkerson. Both Players are gonna require big pay days and 1 guy has keep his nose clean while the other has cause concern within the management level of the club. All true, however, Mo will require a big contract in 2016 & 2017 (when we are still paying Revis, Harris, Brick, etc.) while Sheldon's big pay day does not come for another 2-3 years, when a lot of our big contracts will be off the books. This has to factor into the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Trading mo only makes sense if the jets are getting a major haul in return like as part of a blockbuster deal for a TE. Otherwise the jets need to lock him up. Players on big contracts still have major trade value, look at what NO got for jimmy graham. The jets can't afford to let mo walk for nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The goal for 2016 is to improve by two games and challenge NEfor the AFC East. To do that Maccagnan & Bowles will need to make hard decisions and evaluate our personnel critically. Wedidn't generate consistent pressure last year so I won't be shocked if we change our front seven, emphasizing our LB's nextyear over our DLine. If that's the case we'll need 2-3 speedyLB's between free agency and the draft. So trading Wilkersonis definitely on the table particularly if you get a #1 likewe did when we traded Abraham to ATL back in 2006 I agree with KRL. Traditionally, in a 3-4 defense, the big playmakers were always in the LB core while the DL tied up the blockers (I was reminded of this last night while watching the Steelers). While investing heavily into our DL has paid off in a strong running defense, failing to invest good pick in the LB corps has resulted in a lack of speed on the outside, a consistent failure to generate pass rush on the outside and a perennial weakness across the middle in passing defense. It's time to flip that script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 All true, however, Mo will require a big contract in 2016 & 2017 (when we are still paying Revis, Harris, Brick, etc.) while Sheldon's big pay day does not come for another 2-3 years, when a lot of our big contracts will be off the books. This has to factor into the decision. I like conversing with you because you seem to be a reasonable person . The way I look at it, if we cut ties with brick, it saves 10 mil on the cap while leaving us with a 5 mil cap hit if cut before June 1st or a 3.5 - 4 mil cap hit if cut afterwards . Mangold has an 8 mil cap hit with zero dead money left. Marshall has a 10 mil cap hit with zero dead money left . Kerley is a dead man walking likely gone after June 1st . We will have plenty of cap space if we so choose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I like conversing with you because you seem to be a reasonable person . The way I look at it, if we cut ties with brick, it saves 10 mil on the cap while leaving us with a 5 mil cap hit if cut before June 1st or a 3.5 - 4 mil cap hit if cut afterwards . Mangold has an 8 mil cap hit with zero dead money left. Marshall has a 10 mil cap hit with zero dead money left . Kerley is a dead man walking likely gone after June 1st . We will have plenty of cap space if we so choose . Thanks (although I'm not sure my wife would agree). Bassett at the Jets blog did a nice article on the amount of cap room that would be left after signing Mo, Snacks and a couple of others: https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/bassetts-offseason-primer-a-free-agency-unlike-last-year/161360646 We would literally have money for only 1 mid tier free agent signing (likely a RB). It just doesn't leave us with a lot of room to improve next year unless: 1) Fitz, Marshall & Deck repeat this year's performance (not a gimee); and either 2) the players from the last 2 draft classes (especially Amaro and Devin Smith) continue to improve or 2016's draft class is light's out. I don't love being that tight against the cap. Also, I think trading Mo at this stage would yield a nice haul while Sheldon's value is arguably at it's lowest since he entered the league. I like to sell high, not sell low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 ok lets go down the trade aisle what do you get for mo, and how does that make the team better ? please note you have a huge hole to fill on defense, a key player that plays at a pro-bowl level against the run and pass, is reliable durable and productive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 ok lets go down the trade aisle what do you get for mo, and how does that make the team better ? please note you have a huge hole to fill on defense, a key player that plays at a pro-bowl level against the run and pass, is reliable durable and productive Leonard Williams could fill in aptly for Wilkerson and the Jets would not miss a beat. You aren't creating a hole by ditching Mo. You're creating massive cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Leonard Williams could fill in aptly for Wilkerson and the Jets would not miss a beat. You aren't creating a hole by ditching Mo. You're creating massive cap space. they are gonna clone williams ? I didn't realize that, no that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Very clear language in the CBA. Deals with personal conduct that embarrasses the league. Comparing the situation to Brady is laughable. He will be suspended 2-4 games. so cheating does not embarrass the league now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 so cheating does not embarrass the league now ? Not if Brady does it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 they are gonna clone williams ? I didn't realize that, no that works Williams, Harrison, Richardson. What more do you want? Bring back Douzable and Bowen to be rotational guys. Catapano could get some run. There's guys on the practice squad the Jets like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 ok lets go down the trade aisle what do you get for mo, and how does that make the team better ? please note you have a huge hole to fill on defense, a key player that plays at a pro-bowl level against the run and pass, is reliable durable and productive 1) How does that make the team better? When we traded John Abraham, we received a first round pick that we converted into Nick Mangold, who has arguably been a hall of famer. When we traded Revis, we parlayed that into Sheldon, the defensive rookie of the year who thereafter made the pro bowl. By trading Mo, we are going to get a high pick (or picks) to replenish this team's base of young talent. 2) The huge hole will be filled by Richardson or Williams, both of whom were drafted higher than Wilkinson and had (arguably) better rookie seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Williams, Harrison, Richardson. What more do you want? Bring back Douzable and Bowen to be rotational guys. Catapano could get some run. There's guys on the practice squad the Jets like. none of those players are half the player mo is not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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