Dcat Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Still doesn't really impact the logjam that is Kaepernick and the Broncos. That domino still has to fall. April 1. That is the date that Kaep gets $11+ million guaranteed for 2016. Figure the Kaep discussions will get serious among the interested teams and SFO around Tuesday or Wednesday and an announcement one way or the other (trade or keep Kaep) a day or two before that drop dead date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, JiF said: So, it's Fitz, McCown, Geno or Petty! Lets Go Jets!!! Or Goff is we traded up to #2 like for Wilk. Plus clears a helluva lotta cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Fitz, McCown, Geno, Hoyer, Glennon, Foles That is what I think the possibilities are. (I don't think there is any way the Jets feel that Petty is a viable option at all unless we have big injuries) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 17 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Might force jets to up offer to Fitz. How so? 2 years, $15m a year is a similar ballpark to where we already are... somewhere in that Chase Daniel range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Good. One more garbage QB I don't have to hear about coming to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Good. One more garbage QB I don't have to hear about coming to the Jets. And the current Jets QB's are what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, HessStation said: I think, Jackson + a little more mature and humbled RG3 = Winning combination I think this is going to be a signing the Jets regret on passing. 26 year old with that much upside. Hes going to do well there. He throws an amazing deep ball thats going to match extremely well with Josh Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 ..good now,.. we can't sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Might force jets to up offer to Fitz. I actually think the opposite. Thats the price for a temporary starter in the NFL until your draft pick develops. Fitzpatrick is simply a temporary guy. Hes not the Franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Funny to see this after watching Carson Wentz pro day. I can't see how they don't pick him or Goff. They are running neck and neck on best QB in this draft. Wentz reminds me of a more athletic Carson Palmer. So what do they do with RG111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 23 minutes ago, Shockwave said: I actually think the opposite. Thats the price for a temporary starter in the NFL until your draft pick develops. Fitzpatrick is simply a temporary guy. Hes not the Franchise. Well Connor Hughes and Rich Cimini are on their daily patrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It's a guessing game but RG3 is at best a future successful reclamation project and at worst a placeholder for a rookie qb. RG3 is likely insurance. Fitz was unlikely to ever go to the Browns but this RG3 signing is certainly a shrinking of the marketplace for Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 As a fan of an AFC North team, I would prefer RGIII would have landed somewhere other than Cleveland. Definite upgrade from what they had with partyboy Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 RG III contract with Browns hurts Jets' negotiating stance with Ryan Fitzpatrick Dickhard Semen-iESPN Staff Writer A few quick thoughts on how the New York Jets and Ryan Fitzpatrick are impacted by Robert Griffin III's decision to sign with the Cleveland Browns: 1. Well, the Jets can scratch Plan B off their contingency list. Or was it Plan C? Plan D? Even though the Jets met with Griffin on March 10 and 11, they never seemed serious about signing him. It was, as coach Todd Bowles called it, a "meet and greet." 2. Griffin's deal with the Browns -- a reported two years, $15 million, including $6.75 million guaranteed -- doesn't help the Jets, that's for sure. It's strengthens Fitzpatrick's negotiating position. His offer from the Jets is said to be in the Griffin ballpark, which is insulting. Fitzpatrick went 10-6 last season and threw 31 touchdowns; Griffin was active for only one game and didn't play a single snap. Are the Jets trying to run off Fitzpatrick? It sure seems like it. 3. Griffin's arrival means the Browns probably will cut or trade Josh McCown, who is due to make $4.375 million. As noted on Wednesday, the Jets see McCown, 36, as a potential replacement for Fitzpatrick. Add McCown to the list of seemingly expendable quarterbacks under contract, joining Colin Kaepernick, Mike Glennon and Brian Hoyer. 4. The next domino to fall could be Kaepernick. If he goes to the Denver Broncos, it'll leave Fitzpatrick without any suitors, hurting his leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The Jets play here is to wait until April 1st. Our leverage will only increase after that. No one wants Fitzpatrick but us. After he realizes that after april 1st well have our choice of paying Fitzpatrick or trading for Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Thank yooooouuuu Cleveland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It seems that this draft is KEY to select another developmental QB ( Lynch, HOGAN! Cook, Adams, Jr.) and we'll have our option of either Trading a late 3rd/4th for Glennon, or signing FA McCown or Fitzy to hold the fort until we draft Chip Kelly next year () Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 This has no bearing on what they do at 2. RG3 is damaged goods and cant play on that knee anymore. Hes simply a placeholder till wentz or goff are ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: It seems that this draft is KEY to select another developmental QB ( Lynch, HOGAN! Cook, Adams, Jr.) and we'll have our option of either Trading a late 3rd/4th for Glennon, or signing FA McCown or Fitzy to hold the fort until we draft Chip Kelly next year () To get the Buccanears backup Qb it's going to take at least a second round pick Jmo. Who is going To be Winston backup.( if they trade him- that backup might have to play) Josh McCown isn't a free agent, and the Jets would have to trade for him. The Browns can carry him all the way to the last cutdown period.( at that point it does the Jets no good). Might just have to live with Geno Smith, and Petty competing for the Jets starting qb job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Fitzy is running out of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: To get the Buccanears backup Qb it's going to take at least a second round pick Jmo. Josh McCown isn't a free agent, and the Jets would have to trade for him. That's why @Raideraholic your opinion is worth Jack $hit on this site as you are a lost fan with no home and you've never really been welcome here or on JI. McCown will be cut because the Browns are NOT going to pay him his $4M salary and the Jets can be MORE than patient by June 1st, if necessary, since either a young QB will be drafted or traded for by then and/or Fitzy will have caved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just now, Gas2No99 said: That's why @Raideraholic your opinion is worth Jack $hit on this site as you are a lost fan with no home and you've never really been welcome here or on JI. McCown will be cut because the Browns are NOT going to pay him his $4M salary and the Jets can be MORE than patient by June 1st, if necessary, since either a young QB will be drafted or traded for by then and/or Fitzy will have caved in. If Raider says we'd have to give up a second, it means we'll get him for a 4th or 5th. The dude's always wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I'd have NO issue trading a 4th or 5th for Glennon. Hell, we got Favre for a 4th that became a 3rd and one helluva BlueBalls season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 And the current Jets QB's are what? Piling garbage on garbage doesn't make garbage any better. It generally just means it stinks even more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 So the going rate for a backup QB with some upside is $7M. Fitz better act soon or he's going to be left standing when the music stops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Piling garbage on garbage doesn't make garbage any better. It generally just means it stinks even more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk OR you get Staten Island's Fresh Kills Park: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: I'd have NO issue trading a 4th or 5th for Glennon. Hell, we got Favre for a 4th that became a 3rd and one helluva BlueBalls season. I'm still not sure what glennon has done to make him worth a 4th. His play was regressing pretty badly before he was benched for mccown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, cant wait said: I'm still not sure what glennon has done to make him worth a 4th. His play was regressing pretty badly before he was benched for mccown Glennon is the classic guy everyone talks/obsesses about who is destined to bomb catastrophically. I never wanted Glennon and still feel that he is the wrong move for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I view Glennon the same as I view most of these other QB's, if we gt him it should do nothing to change our long term QB goals of finding a long term good starter. He'd have to come in and have an amazing year for us for that to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Might force jets to up offer to Fitz. There is literally nothing that could force the Jets to up the offer to Fitz. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 i swear i dont understand the interest in mcown. wtf? Hes an old scrub….36 years old. this means they won't budge to ftiz's demands and are more than willing to just go with any scrub including geno next year until they find a qb. oh my Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: All over twatter. Great signing by the browns. A good situation for an up-and-coming franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Tony The Wiz said: quoted wrong post x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, HighPitch said: i swear i dont understand the interest in mcown. wtf? Hes an old scrub….36 years old. this means they won't budge to ftiz's demands and are more than willing to just go with any scrub including geno next year until they find a qb. oh my Statistically, Fitz and McCown are quite similar with McCown having a much stronger arm. Both have injury histories and both have frustrated many teams who have wasted a lot of money on them. Both have done well with Brandon Marshall too. McCown's best numbers were with the Bears (when Cutler got hurt) with Marshall and Forte. The only real difference is McCown is 3 years older, but so what? We wouldn't be likely to keep either one beyond 2016 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said: That's why @Raideraholic your opinion is worth Jack $hit on this site as you are a lost fan with no home and you've never really been welcome here or on JI. McCown will be cut because the Browns are NOT going to pay him his $4M salary and the Jets can be MORE than patient by June 1st, if necessary, since either a young QB will be drafted or traded for by then and/or Fitzy will have caved in. Here is from a fellow Jet fan Jason at over the cap.( post June 1 cut) http://overthecap.com/player/josh-mccown/1011 Now when you have an asset, and there are teams out there might be interested in a player. It does you no good to cut that player too soon. You or the Bronco's want him you might be tempted to to give them 3 or fourth rounder. ( desperate teams do desperate things). Yes he might not make the Browns 53 man roster, but they are under no pressure to get rid of him that fast- they aren't right against the cap. ( the trading team wants him as early as possible to learn the offense). Let's see what happens here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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