Integrity28 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Worth a call. He came on as the season went on in Philly last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Bradford can play, he just can't stay healthy. If he didn't have that absurd contract, then I'd be fine adding him if it doesn't cost us serious resources in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Bradford can play, he just can't stay healthy. If he didn't have that absurd contract, then I'd be fine adding him if it doesn't cost us serious resources in a trade. Wilkerson for Bradford and 2-3 draft picks. Maybe a 2 and a 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 We should do our due diligence and make a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, Integrity28 said: Bradford can play, he just can't stay healthy. If he didn't have that absurd contract, then I'd be fine adding him if it doesn't cost us serious resources in a trade. I'm sure the eagles would give him away at this point. That contract was idiotic at the time and even worse in retrospect. I'd rather give Fitz 15mil a year than deal with Bradford's contract. Even if Bradford was a slight upgrade over Fitz, he is way too brittle and unreliable. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Bradford can play, he just can't stay healthy. If he didn't have that absurd contract, then I'd be fine adding him if it doesn't cost us serious resources in a trade. I believed this until last year. He stayed healthy and was brutal. who the hell does he think he is? He should just be happy he has a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Wilkerson for Bradford and 2-3 draft picks. Maybe a 2 and a 3. Do the eagles have any other draft picks left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Only if he's cut is he worth bringing in. I can't imagine anyone trading for him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I'm sure the eagles would give him away at this point. That contract was idiotic at the time and even worse in retrospect. I'd rather give Fitz 15mil a year than deal with Bradford's contract. Even if Bradford was a slight upgrade over Fitz, he is way too brittle and unreliable. Pass. if we deal for Bradford, we'd only be on the hook for 24M over 2 years... Eagles pay the signing bonus acceleration I believe, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, aec4 said: if we deal for Bradford, we'd only be on the hook for 24M over 2 years... Eagles pay the signing bonus acceleration I believe, So it would be 12 mill for Bradford or 12 mill for Fitz? I'd rather use that 12 on Fitz and we don't need to trade for Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, aec4 said: Do the eagles have any other draft picks left? I don't think they have a 2. They did have 2 3's so one of them may be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Bradford can play, he just can't stay healthy. If he didn't have that absurd contract, then I'd be fine adding him if it doesn't cost us serious resources in a trade. Portion of the contract would still be paid by Philly in the event of a trade. I have read that Philly would be on the hook for his $11 million guaranteed money and trading team would only owe $7MM for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 His contract is not prohibitive and maybe not much more than what Fitz would be getting. I don't know if Chip Kelly would be interested but there might be competition for his services. I'd do it for a pick preferably 2017. What about a 3rd rounder. But not for Mo unless Mac just wants to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Fitzpatrick >>> Bradford. Bradford is a pu$$y in the pocket. Not really his fault, as he got David Carr'd his first few years in St. Louis, but he's complete damaged goods at this point. He's not worth $12M or even $7-8M. If Philly finds no trade partners and is forced to cut him loose, now you're talking. But not a moment before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Lith said: Portion of the contract would still be paid by Philly in the event of a trade. I have read that Philly would be on the hook for his $11 million guaranteed money and trading team would only owe $7MM for this season. that's true I believe plus 4 guaranteed next year too I think... Bradford is better than Fitz but how much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, aec4 said: if we deal for Bradford, we'd only be on the hook for 24M over 2 years... Eagles pay the signing bonus acceleration I believe, This, I believe the Eagles already paid him 12 million of the money in the deal, and not all of that 24 million is guaranteed either, so the contract would end up being less than what Fitz is asking for, and that makes this a no brainer IF Macc, and Co. like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: I don't think they have a 2. They did have 2 3's so one of them may be gone You are correct. They do not have a 2. A 1 (obviously) a 3 and a few late round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: This, I believe the Eagles already paid him 12 million of the money in the deal, and not all of that 24 million is guaranteed either, so the contract would end up being less than what Fitz is asking for, and that makes this a no brainer IF Macc, and Co. like him. Bradford deal was totaling 36 for 2. They paid 12, leaving 24 remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, aec4 said: Bradford deal was totaling 36 for 2. They paid 12, leaving 24 remaining. Yeah I said 24, 36 minus 12 equals 24, that's what's left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: I believed this until last year. He stayed healthy and was brutal. who the hell does he think he is? He should just be happy he has a job Baloney - he had a horrible O-Line in front of him, no running game, and Sproles was his best weapon in the passing game. He is light years better than Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, deucebag said: Baloney - he had a horrible O-Line in front of him, no running game, and Sproles was his best weapon in the passing game. He is light years better than Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick performed well despite horrible OT's and, at times, a very lackluster running game. Yet Bradford gets excuses made for his horrid play despite playing for QB whisperer Chip Kelly? Riiiight. What were his excuses every other year he's been dreadful? The only reason anyone would say Bradford is better is because he was a former # 1 overall pick. That's it. At best they're equals. I prefer Fitz by a lot because at least Fitz plays with some balls. Bradford plays scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 If I'm trading for a QB, I'd rather trade for Glennon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Here is how I'm looking at our QB situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 why would mccags use bradford over fitz, when fitz already has the offense down and is a lockerroom leader? why must we always debate other team's retreads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Wilkerson for Bradford and 2-3 draft picks. Maybe a 2 and a 3. LOVE IT!!!! Make it a 5 this year and a conditional pick next year from 2 to 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 No interest at all, he does not remotely fit into our budget and is not good enough to be our franchise guy. Who the hell is going to trade fro him with that awful contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, peekskill68 said: If I'm trading for a QB, I'd rather trade for Glennon... This. Give me the young-ish guy who doesn't cost $12M per year and doesn't have 2 ACL tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just checked details on Bradford's contract on Spotrac: Quote Sam Bradford signed a 2 year, $35,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $11,000,000 signing bonus, $22,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $17,500,000. In 2016, Bradford will earn a base salary of $7,000,000 and a signing bonus of $11,000,000. Bradford has a cap hit of $12,500,000 while his dead money value is $18,000,000. Contract Notes: $18M initially guaranteed (signing bonus + 2016 salary) 2017 Roster Bonus: $4M (paid in March 2017) $4M of 2017 salary becomes fully guaranteed in March 2017 (contains offsets) Incentives: $4M Basically little risk. $7MM guaranteed for 2016. $11MM signing bonus to be paid by Philly. No 2017 guaranteed money for an acquiring team beyond the March 2017 roster bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Come on at least use a Carl Kolchak image.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: why would mccags use bradford over fitz, when fitz already has the offense down and is a lockerroom leader? why must we always debate other team's retreads? Ugh, because theyre both someone else's retread and Bradford is younger and can actually throw more than 10 yards downfield. To me when healthy, a better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm not a Bradford fan, but if the choice is him or Fitz for the same money, I think he presents more upside. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 This has the look and feel of Tampering from Denver. If I was John Elway I would have initiated a conversation with Bradford's agent. With this threat, It probably drives the price down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, deucebag said: LOVE IT!!!! Make it a 5 this year and a conditional pick next year from 2 to 4. Philly doesn't have a 2nd to give. Not this year or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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