Sperm Edwards Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 42 minutes ago, Pac said: Not sure if you're being sarcastic but winning 3 out of 4 is not a "messy situation". If they're actually not playing him to protect their egos or fear him winning games then they should all be immediately escorted out of Floram Park. Yes it is a messy situation because Geno is not returning next year. It is a worst-case scenario. One, they look foolish. Two, Petty doesn't get an adequate on-field audition before the 2017 free agency period and draft. Messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: Yes it is a messy situation because Geno is not returning next year. It is a worst-case scenario. One, they look foolish. Two, Petty doesn't get an adequate on-field audition before the 2017 free agency period and draft. Messy. Sperm messy was signing Fitzpatrick for $12 million and expecting different results than what we've seen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Sperm messy was signing Fitzpatrick for $12 million and expecting different results than what we've seen this year. Well you already know I agree with that. All this talk of Fitz being the best chance of winning was just whistling past the graveyard. He is a backup QB and didn't stand a chance against superior defenses unless our own defense (and coaching) was championship-caliber. This is precisely what I expected this year: starting out 1-5 or at best 2-4 out of the gate. Predicted a finish of 7.5 wins. There are enough beatable teams on the schedule that I still think we're in that neighborhood even though it doesn't seem so sitting at 1-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Keep Fitz in for now but Petty needs to play as soon as physically able. The organization needs to know if Petty is the answer we all hope he is or is just the latest Ratliff or Simms. Giving Geno playing time would only be counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Yes it is a messy situation because Geno is not returning next year. It is a worst-case scenario. One, they look foolish. Two, Petty doesn't get an adequate on-field audition before the 2017 free agency period and draft. Messy. Translation: I don't want Geno Smith back on the team next year and if he plays well then they're probably going to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 If they play Geno Smith and he plays well then Macc looks like the fool that he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Maxman said: It is officially Geno Smith time. Let's try to win some games. Fitz isn't getting it done. The red zone problems are cause and effect. Teams are playing bend but don't break against us. So Fitz puts up good stats but can't close out drives. Next. Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, AFJF said: Petty Can't play a guy who is hurt. I can't wait to see what Petty has to offer. I can wait to ever see what Fitz has to offer again. So go to Geno for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 No. Translation is they aren't keeping him no matter what. If he does meh they aren't re-signing him. If he does decently well he's going to want to go to another team for a fresh start. It's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: If they play Geno Smith and he plays well then Macc looks like the fool that he is. If they keep playing Fitz and losing he will look worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 45 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Bowles plays Geno he plays well Macc looks like a fool Woody realizes he wasted $12 million both are gone LOL...like Woody is so involved and put out about a decision to pay a QB who won 10 games last year $12 mill that he's gonna fire his GM and Coach? Jeez...do you guys even think before you post? Let's say he DIDN'T sign Fitz and the Jets are in the same boat right now....how would THAT sit with Woody? Honestly, this is a lot less complicated then a lot on here are making it out to be.... Fitz won 10 games last year and was a FA; Petty hadn't shown sh*t til this pre-season, and we have no idea if it was all smoke or the real deal but the Jets KNEW Geno was not a long-term answer; Geno had all off-season with the 1's before Fitz signed and did nothing to negate his 2+ yrs of suckage to make signing Fitz unnecessary ; Petty is hurt, Hack isn't an option so it's Fitz until he's either hurt or Petty is healthy....that was the plan all along. My issue is, considering what has transpired this season to date, if they were that certain that Geno was going to be gone after this season, why did they play Petty in the 4th PS game? I understand they wanted him to get some more reps etc., but if you're hell bent against Geno then he should have been playing in PS game 4, not Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: Can't play a guy who is hurt. I can't wait to see what Petty has to offer. I can wait to ever see what Fitz has to offer again. So go to Geno for the time being. Get him healthy and start him. Geno is too busy pouting in instagram to play QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: Can't play a guy who is hurt. I can't wait to see what Petty has to offer. I can wait to ever see what Fitz has to offer again. So go to Geno for the time being. Its a no brainer Max any other NFL team would have pulled the plug on sh*tzpatrick after the 6 INT game Bowles plays Geno he looks good Macc looks like a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: If they play Geno Smith and he plays well then Macc looks like the fool that he is. Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Its a no brainer Max any other NFL team would have pulled the plug on sh*tzpatrick after the 6 INT game Bowles plays Geno he looks good Macc looks like a fool. Is everything in life a conspiracy to you? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: Get him healthy and start him. Geno is too busy pouting in instagram to play QB. Stop with this silliness. Nobody cares if he is a bad dude or if he is a baby. Fitz has led this team to a 1 and 4 record. Fitz had a chance to lead the Jets to the playoffs and he threw a costly interception in the red zone. The Fitz experiment is over. They won 11 games and sold some merchandise. Great story. Now let's move on and try to win a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: Not really Yes really a $12 million dollar mistake Just now, greenwave81 said: Is everything in life a conspiracy to you? Just wondering. No actually it isn't but what other reason do you stick with a QB who throws 6 INTs in a game no other NFL team would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 You cant play petty till after the bye. He hasnt even been practicing. You cant start hack cause hes terrible. You cant start fitz because hes got no confidence left. the right move is to go to Geno for the next few games. He will be fair to bad and then after the bye Petty gets the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Yes, it is time...for Petty, if he can't go then let Fitz get beat up next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: No. Translation is they aren't keeping him no matter what. If he does meh they aren't re-signing him. If he does decently well he's going to want to go to another team for a fresh start. It's pointless. Geno doesn't want to be a Jet as much as the Jets want him not to be one. It's a divorce long in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 And let's be real here for a minute. This isn't about Fitz. It isn't about Geno. It is about accountability. Rex Ryan was fired for no accountability. It is about setting a tone for the organization. You make a change at the QB position. You make a change in the secondary this week as well. And I don't know the answer but you make a big change to the defense from a play calling \ game planning perspective. You are 1 and 4 no more of this we are close B.S. They aren't close. Make changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 43 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: He is not going to play for a high draft pick. He will pull a Rex and do everything in his power to go 8-8. That is trouble for this franchise. he can't try to lose, but I think its his natural talent 42 minutes ago, Maxman said: I think he is smarter than that. And I believe (hope) that Bowles and this team improves. But if not, at least we will get the final answer sooner as opposed to dragging it out. he is smarter, but I think his emotions won't let him. I think he is a "go down doing it your way" kinda guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Yes really a $12 million dollar mistake No actually it isn't but what other reason do you stick with a QB who throws 6 INTs in a game no other NFL team would Ummm...maybe because you think the back up is, you know, worse? And he's still you're best option until the next guy you want to play is healthy? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Geno doesn't want to be a Jet as much as the Jets want him not to be one. It's a divorce long in the making. Because the players always know whats best for the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Larz said: he can't try to lose, but I think its his natural talent he is smarter, but I think his emotions won't let him. I think he is a "go down doing it your way" kinda guy He should look at the game film then and think to himself, why does this team routinely get down the field and have trouble in the red zone. If he finds a way to fix that with Fitz, great he is an awesome coach. I suspect that it is cause and effect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: And they don't have a book on Geno? Hell, Jets FANS don't have the book on Geno. Just some bullsh*t first chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Geno doesn't want to be a Jet as much as the Jets want him not to be one. It's a divorce long in the making. Which would've happened after PS game 4 if Bowles didn't pull a Rex like maneuver IMO. Am I wrong? Perhaps...but their reticence to play Geno speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Maxman said: Stop with this silliness. Nobody cares if he is a bad dude or if he is a baby. Fitz has led this team to a 1 and 4 record. Fitz had a chance to lead the Jets to the playoffs and he threw a costly interception in the red zone. The Fitz experiment is over. They won 11 games and sold some merchandise. Great story. Now let's move on and try to win a Super Bowl. Realist Post of the year lmaoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Maxman said: He should look at the game film then and think to himself, why does this team routinely get down the field and have trouble in the red zone. If he finds a way to fix that with Fitz, great he is an awesome coach. I suspect that it is cause and effect though. maybe 5 wide is a mistake? the steelers go max protect and just wait for the defense to blink. chan goes 5 wide and fitz is blitzed and has to rush the throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, phill1c said: Hell, Jets FANS don't have the book on Geno. Just some bullsh*t first chapter. A first chapter that is 3+ yrs long....great. I'm 56...guess I ain't gonna see another SB win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, greenwave81 said: A first chapter that is 3+ yrs long....great. I'm 56...guess I ain't gonna see another SB win. Probably not. But, c'mon, the Geno Smith who was a rookie won 8 games with dreck around him. So, you're saying there's no room for improvement?! To say that just means you're not accepting that anyone, even the dark skinned, immature brother, can grow. In any event, watching Fitzpatrick waste another game seems silly and masochistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Larz said: maybe 5 wide is a mistake? the steelers go max protect and just wait for the defense to blink. chan goes 5 wide and fitz is blitzed and has to rush the throw I love 5 wide. But I also love a balanced offense. I wish we had fullbacks and tight ends. The thought of running the ball up the middle on 3rd and 1 makes me happy. Instead of doing weird option plays with non-running QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: I'm concerned here in early Oct with 2016 only. We're not the only team playing erratic football and the season's not over yet. We had a dry spell last year and then won five in a row. Right now it doesn't look good and if a Qb change would light a fire then ok. You have to do what you have to do. And no Fitz hasn't been the key problem but he also hasn't been able to get enough out of this offense. Of course if his receivers are dropping balls on key downs that's not his fault. It's too late to change the players we are stuck with them. If there is a rebuild it will be during the off season not now. And 12 mil for a starting Qb isn't a lot. If you want a better Qb you will have to pay a lot more. Hoyer is better and he signed for $2M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Because the players always know whats best for the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Maxman said: Stop with this silliness. Nobody cares if he is a bad dude or if he is a baby. Fitz has led this team to a 1 and 4 record. Fitz had a chance to lead the Jets to the playoffs and he threw a costly interception in the red zone. The Fitz experiment is over. They won 11 games and sold some merchandise. Great story. Now let's move on and try to win a Super Bowl. I agree. Petty it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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