JetNation Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 By Glenn Naughton In a series of tweets this morning, NFL insider Ian Rapoport may have provided some clarity regarding the Jets murky leadership situation moving forward. While many fans and pundits have been calling for the heads of General Manager Mike Maccagnan and Head Coach Todd Bowles, it would appear both are safe if Rapoport is right and the Jets don’t intend to “clean house”. From @NFLGameDay: #Jets not inclined to clean house with coach Todd Bowles. But expect a very different team with many big-money vets gone — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 11, 2016 However, it does appear the team has had enough of some of their over-priced, under-performing veterans who are failing to bring enough to the table from a leadership standpoint, and that will have an impact on how the team approaches this off-season. Major #Jets focus for the offseason: Leadership. There’s a major void among the players. As #NYJ settles into its rebuild, it’s important — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 11, 2016 The absence of leadership at 1 Jets Drive has been obvious for quite some time now. Will we see a return to the Eric Mangini school of drafting in seeking out a handful of team captains in the upcoming draft? Whatever approach the Jets take, it appears the operation will once again be overseen by Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 What's the boar hunter up to nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Fire Chan Gaily pick up a coordinator that's more aligned with Petty's strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, CobraVerde said: Fire Chan Gaily pick up a coordinator that's more aligned with Petty's strengths. The Jets have to find out if Petty is even worth getting a look beyond this year first. They're porbably going to be QB shopping in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Good news As long as Bowles answers to MaccAnd Geno Smith is out the doorI'm good with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Hopefully they are smart enough to get rid of the worst QB in the NFL Ryan Fitzpatrick he's a distraction and a liability. I think Macc and Bowles learned a hard lesson bringing him back this season. He's the furthest thing from a leader he's a selfish self centered egotistical jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Help wanted must be young, talented, self motivated, cheap and play a critical position and willing to play in this market for this leadership with no QB s on the roster Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Bowles and Mac safe? Tough to call at this point. If Petty show's well and the team shows some life in these final games I may be open to thinking about retaining them. Judging by last Mondays debacle this team has quit. Q-U-I-T. That's on Bowles. You want to play your heart for a Coach if you believe in him. Bowles has lost this team and usually there is no going back from that point. So unless there is major Personnel turnover its going to be hard to get these guys to play for Bowles. Tough to call but I see Bowles gone at least and Mac on a short leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, Larz said: Help wanted must be young, talented, self motivated, cheap and play a critical position and willing to play in this market for this leadership with no QB s on the roster Lol That's the NFL draft in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Bowles and Mac safe? Tough to call at this point. If Petty show's well and the team shows some life in these final games I may be open to thinking about retaining them. Judging by last Mondays debacle this team has quit. Q-U-I-T. That's on Bowles. You want to play your heart for a Coach if you believe in him. Bowles has lost this team and usually there is no going back from that point. So unless there is major Personnel turnover its going to be hard to get these guys to play for Bowles. Tough to call but I see Bowles gone at least and Mac on a short leash. I'd say Bowles is in the same position Rex was in as he entered the final quarter of the season. Woody doesn't want to dump him, but if the team continues to get beat down, he may not have a choice. I'd say it's 70/30 in favor of Bowles being around again next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 If we have some more embarassing games of the 4 left this may not be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 25 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Hopefully they are smart enough to get rid of the worst QB in the NFL Ryan Fitzpatrick he's a distraction and a liability. I think Macc and Bowles learned a hard lesson bringing him back this season. He's the furthest thing from a leader he's a selfish self centered egotistical jerk. Literally not a word of this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: I'd say Bowles is in the same position Rex was in as he entered the final quarter of the season. Woody doesn't want to dump him, but if the team continues to get beat down, he may not have a choice. I'd say it's 70/30 in favor of Bowles being around again next season. I agree to certain extent but it all depends on if the team is competitive. Another major factor would be if Petty show's promise.. I could see them keep Bowles and Gailey around to keep the system in place if Petty looks good in the final games this year. A lot depends on Petty though. If Petty can produce then I agree Bowles and Co will get another chance. If Petty play's terribly then Bowles is a goner IMO. Maybe Mac as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 42 minutes ago, CobraVerde said: Fire Chan Gaily pick up a coordinator that's more aligned with Petty's strengths. Throwing the ball down field hoping for someone to catch it? That's pretty much his style. Unless we can get young Randy Moss it's not going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Let's be real. Mac and Toilet took over a 4-12 team with a bare roster and horrible prior drafts. Mac threw a bunch of money at vets, fitzgarbage played out of his mind, team played an easy schedule somehow made it to 10-6. This year, age/laziness caught up to the vets, fitzgarbage regressed to the mean, team played a tougher schedule and had injuries, and crashed. Give Mac another offseason and draft and see what he can do. Toilet will be back for one more year, if he is just as gutless and clueless as this year out the door he goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Keeping Bowels another year is ******* stupid. He sucks just like the last 10 coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Three things; Rapoport is wrong fairly often. Grain of salt. Of course this is what leaks out. What did anyone expect to hear? That they intend to fire one or both with 4 games left? I am not happy with Macc's drafts thus far. But I understand giving him more time. I have seen almost no redeeming qualities from Bowles as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, RoadFan said: Three things; Rapoport is wrong fairly often. Grain of salt. Of course this is what leaks out. What did anyone expect to hear? That they intend to fire one or both with 4 games left? I am not happy with Macc's drafts thus far. But I understand giving him more time. I have seen almost no redeeming qualities from Bowles as a HC. Could be that nothing leaked, but somebody told him this? Team may be looking to prepare the fan base for no firings at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Keeping Bowels another year is ******* stupid. He sucks just like the last 10 coaches. Who you replacing him with that would come to the Jets that isn't a pipe dream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I'm confused...shouldn't the Jets have great Leaders since they are so vet heavy? They signed all the FA vets, but now leadership is a priority? Shouldn't that be priority #1? Isn't that why you spent all that money? This team is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 If true then I hope I'm wrong about not wanting to bring Bowles, the failed defensive guru, back. So, it wasn't Bowles, it was the vets? I do totally agree with ridding ourselves of ALL the high priced vets since 2017 is finally and obviously going to be a rebuild year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 39 minutes ago, AFJF said: Could be that nothing leaked, but somebody told him this? Team may be looking to prepare the fan base for no firings at all. Sure. That's possible. I don't trust Rapoport as a source. I have seen a couple of times where it feels like a team used him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, RoadFan said: Sure. That's possible. I don't trust Rapoport as a source. I have seen a couple of times where it feels like a team used him. That was my thinking. They could be using him here. Not that far fetched. Either way...today is about Petty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, AFJF said: That was my thinking. They could be using him here. Not that far fetched. Either way...today is about Petty! And hopefully Robby. I started him in both fantasy leagues. Over Tyler Boyd in one. Over Adam Thielen and Devante Parker in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Literally not a word of this is true. It's 100% true. Fitz is a "all about me" arrogant douchenozzle scrub. The worst QB in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 38 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Who you replacing him with that would come to the Jets that isn't a pipe dream? It's the NFL coaches will line up for the job. Keeping sh*tty coaches doesn't help win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It's 100% true. Fitz is a "all about me" arrogant douchenozzle scrub. The worst QB in the NFL Nope and nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, New York Mick said: It's the NFL coaches will line up for the job. Keeping sh*tty coaches doesn't help win. That's barely an answer. How about actual names that aren't bad retreads or first time coordinators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 42 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Who you replacing him with that would come to the Jets that isn't a pipe dream? First, I think Bowles stays for 1 more year. 2nd - i hate the whole Rex argument of "who are you going to get that's better?". last - just my opinion but, both Mike McCoy and Tom Cable are improvements over Bowles and offensive coaches with both HC and coordinator experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: That's barely an answer. How about actual names that aren't bad retreads or first time coordinators? I want a first time coordinator. McDaniels, McDermott, Schwartz etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: First, I think Bowles stays for 1 more year. 2nd - i hate the whole Rex argument of "who are you going to get that's better?". last - just my opinion but, both Mike McCoy and Tom Cable are improvements over Bowles and offensive coaches with both HC and coordinator experience. Mike McCoy is the Chargers coach correct? Tom Cable being a good coach for the offensive line doesn't make him a good head coach candidate. Also, didn't he break a fellow coaches jaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I'd be all for seeing if these guys can learn from their mistakes if they hadn't shown a gross incompetence towards finding a quarterback. And their mistakes in that regard have nothing to do with leadership in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, JiF said: I'm confused...shouldn't the Jets have great Leaders since they are so vet heavy? They signed all the FA vets, but now leadership is a priority? Shouldn't that be priority #1? Isn't that why you spent all that money? This team is dumb. It's almost like building a roster around other teams' castoffs is a bad idea. BIG MACC BIG MACC BIG MACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 32 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I want a first time coordinator. McDaniels, McDermott, Schwartz etc None of those guys are first time coordinators, and 2 are retreads that were horrendous their first go arounds. L M F A O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 35 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: First, I think Bowles stays for 1 more year. 2nd - i hate the whole Rex argument of "who are you going to get that's better?". last - just my opinion but, both Mike McCoy and Tom Cable are improvements over Bowles and offensive coaches with both HC and coordinator experience. Mike McCoy is pathetically awful and Tom Cable punched someone on his staff the last time he was a Head Coach to add to his long history of violence. Multiple claims of abuse to wives/girlfriends and a (hopefully) former alcoholic. GREAT CHOICES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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