Beerfish Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Bills defense under that scrub Schwartz 2014 - 4th in points allowed, 4th in yards per game Bills under DeGenius Rex 2015 - 15th points allowed, 19th yards per game 2016 - 14th points allowed, 16th yards per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, bostonmajet said: I would disagree about the more talent, but the Bowles thing is hard to judge. His team quit on him more than once. Clearly the O has talent issues on the line and ..., but the D for all their deficiencies should certainly be playing better. And the ST suck.Two weeks ago I would have said give him another year, but I am not sure. I am on the fence at this point. You lose the vets, they have to go or the coach has to go, can't be both ways. The young guys are still hustling their azzes off, so, cut all the high priced Vets & let Bowles dictate his authority & want he wants out of his young team going forward, or if your keeping veterans, he's gotta go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, nyjunc said: I think your opinion is fair, I just hate hitting the reset button after 2 years. I think he should get one more year, if we improve he stays, if we are a disaster again he goes. Agreed. 7 minutes ago, Jetster said: You lose the vets, they have to go or the coach has to go, can't be both ways. The young guys are still hustling their azzes off, so, cut all the high priced Vets & let Bowles dictate his authority & want he wants out of his young team going forward, or if your keeping veterans, he's gotta go! Fair point on the vets. As long as the players you want to keep haven't quit, that I guess he hasn't lost those that matter. Most of these vets have to go IMO regardless of what they do with Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 If this was true the pegulas would have scooped him up already Seems like a rumor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, nyjunc said: look at it this way, w/ Super Bowl championship talent on his roster he won 10 and 9 games. Coughlin is a good coach, he's not a better coach than rex and the last time Rex has healthy talent to win anything was probably 2011. Coughlin has superior intelligence so that's an advantage right there. I can see Coughlin in SF replacing Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, nyjunc said: I think they are in the same ballpark. both good coaches, neither great. rex's teams overachieve more often than not, Coughlin's teams underachieve more often than not No one rewrites history like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I will believe that a 70 year old man, with nothing left to prove, nor any likely financial concerns, is going to move to Buffalo full time for a job that's a lot of work, when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, dbatesman said: You're my favorite. When you think about it, Rex and Sanchez really won all of the Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Bills defense under that scrub Schwartz 2014 - 4th in points allowed, 4th in yards per game Bills under DeGenius Rex 2015 - 15th points allowed, 19th yards per game 2016 - 14th points allowed, 16th yards per game. STOP with the damn facts. REX is a defensive genius. Dont let the facts cloud a good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: STOP with the damn facts. REX is a defensive genius. Dont let the facts cloud a good story. since when do you like facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Firing a guy after 2 years is silly especially when they've been competitive for the last 2 years under Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Rasmussen Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 If Coughlin coaches again I think it will be in Jacksonville.He likes that part of the world and I'm pretty sure he still owns a house there.Tough choice though, Buffalo in December vs Jacksonville.Another reason is Bortles.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZ Jets Fan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 NY doesn't seem to miss him this year. I don't think Rex is a great NC but he does get effort out of his team. If true should be good news for us and Dolphins, NE not so much, Coughlin has done well against Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Buffalo has the same problem with coaches that the Jets have...they hire a coordinator in chief instead of a head coach. Hiring the guy who has a really great scheme is foolish. You want to hire the guy who can hire good coaches and understands that there are 3 phases to the game. That way their not married to "their" scheme and installing a coordinator because he "knows their system". Both teams keep hiring a guy that runs one side of the ball and then just hands off the other side to somebody. That's not a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I for one really really hope that this does NOT happen!!! Coughlin IMO would make that team very very formidable!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Woody should have already made the call to Coughlin. How perfect would that be for both sides? Tom gets to stick it to the Giants and the Jets get a great head coach who can straighten this franchise out in a similar fashion as Parcells. Make the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 43 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I for one really really hope that this does NOT happen!!! Coughlin IMO would make that team very very formidable!! 37 minutes ago, NYJ37/12 said: Woody should have already made the call to Coughlin. How perfect would that be for both sides? Tom gets to stick it to the Giants and the Jets get a great head coach who can straighten this franchise out in a similar fashion as Parcells. Make the call. Of all the Bozo's we've paraded into the Jets HC position, IMO, Coughlin would be worth the risk. The naysayers bring up good points BUT he is is solid, a winner and could do NO WORSE than the last 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 8 hours ago, southparkcpa said: I for one would not want to see this.......... http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/12/nfl_coaching_rumors_bills_want_to_hire_tom_coughli.html T]he Pegulas have been in conversations for some time now with Tom Coughlin, and Coughlin is the front-runner to be the next head coach of the Bills following this season. Reports of the Bills owners' interest in Coughlin date back to last summer, and our sources are telling us that conversations began again a few weeks ago and that the interest is mutual. Unlike some former head coaches of Coughlin's stature who need to be persuaded, coerced and wined and dined to return to the sidelines, Coughlin can't wait. We are told he will jump at the first top job that is offered, which may be why the Bills appear ready to move on from Ryan so quickly I think Coughlin is done, based on is last few years with the Gs. I say go ahead, sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Let;s get, this straight. Rex Ryan is not, not a good coach. His teams are consistently undisciplined, erratic and they fold in the clutch. That is the trademark of a Rex Ryan team. What he is, is a good brother. I ask you who else in their right mind would hire his brother at this juncture in his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 6 hours ago, NYJ37/12 said: Woody should have already made the call to Coughlin. Woody doesn't have the balls or the brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Fuuuuck. Instantly put 2 of best 5 coaches in NFL in our division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 If the Bills must fire Rex, then I hope this happens, it would be the next best thing. Actually, Jeff Fisher would be the next best thing, but Coughlin would do. He had the two miracle runs with average Giants teams, but otherwise has a track record of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Green DNA said: If the Bills must fire Rex, then I hope this happens, it would be the next best thing. Actually, Jeff Fisher would be the next best thing, but Coughlin would do. He had the two miracle runs with average Giants teams, but otherwise has a track record of mediocrity. Does the track record of mediocrity include building the Jacksonville Jaguars from scratch and going to the AFCG with them twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I used to run a 5 minute mile 30 years ago. His non SB years with the Giants are the definition of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 10 hours ago, drdetroit said: Does the track record of mediocrity include building the Jacksonville Jaguars from scratch and going to the AFCG with them twice? you mean underachieving w/ a SB caliber roster by never getting to one in Jax? the "built from scratch" thing is deceptive too as jax and Car had HUGE advantages to be good right away and they both were in title games year 2 while the Jets finished 1-15 that same year. That was a gift from the NFL b/c they didn't want another Tampa Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 12 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Fuuuuck. Instantly put 2 of best 5 coaches in NFL in our division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The Giants didn't want Coughlin anymore but some Jets fans feel that he would be perfect for our team. Apparently we should be happy rummaging and scavenging through the Giants trash. No wonder half of this fan base has an inferiority complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 23 hours ago, drdetroit said: Does the track record of mediocrity include building the Jacksonville Jaguars from scratch and going to the AFCG with them twice? When the NFL gave the expansion teams their pick of players and top of draft picks? Completely went over the top trying to help them put a competitive team on the field? He hasn't won in years and is 70 years old. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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