j4jets Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 This morning I woke up and saw a Facebook notification, reminding me to celebrate the 7-year anniversary of the great Santonio Holmes trade. So that's how my day started. "Holmes for a 5th rounder??? This world is coming to an end!!!!" Its safe to assume I was wrong. 5th rounder was about right. At first glance, Holmes was great his first year winning several games with clutch catches. He had decent stats as well for playing 12 games. It was all downhill from there onwards. My favorite memory of Holmes was his TD catch against the Patriots in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just another low character scumbag that the Jets made a home for. We are a pathetic franchise and will always be one unless our owner dies and his estate sells the team to a person who understands how to run a respectable operation, preferably someone who actually earned their wealthy instead of getting it from mommy's sugar daddy. We let the inmates run the asylum here and as a result we are a bottom feeder program. The faster we get rid of trash like Sheldon from this team and start putting a premium on class and professionalism the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The trade was great, signing him long term the following year not so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It's amazing to me how talented guys like him and Braylon, just fall off a cliff and that's it for their careers. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I liked Holmes. He had bad character issues and didn't stay on the field much but he wasn't a bad player when he was on it.Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Top 3 most unlikable Jet but IT WAS fun while it lasted. Jets have had a few cool moments with killer WR groups. Edwards, Holmes and Cotch might be second only to Walker/Toon/Townsell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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56mehl56 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: The trade was great, signing him long term the following year not so great. The trade was great , how Rex handled the player - not so great . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The guy was a massive assclown and a total underachiever who had a few good games with us. A soft zero character dingbat. He was mostly garbage. Braylon Edwards was far far better. Rex Ryan making a him a captain. if that didn't signal that Rex had zero clue then nothing did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 "The Last Captain" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Not saying I thought we'd be friends or anything, but I didn't find Holmes to be the problem a lot of Jet fans did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 When you see a couch sitting out on a curb, leave it there. Most definitely do not offer to pay $50 million dollars for this couch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 that was a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Lil Woody said: Just another low character scumbag that the Jets made a home for. We are a pathetic franchise and will always be one unless our owner dies and his estate sells the team to a person who understands how to run a respectable operation, preferably someone who actually earned their wealthy instead of getting it from mommy's sugar daddy. We let the inmates run the asylum here and as a result we are a bottom feeder program. The faster we get rid of trash like Sheldon from this team and start putting a premium on class and professionalism the better. Right we should be more like the Patriots who drafted a thug and murderer in Aaron Hernandez and just this year signed Malcolm Floyd after he was cut for a DUI and found unconscious behind the wheel. You want to know what really sucks about the jets? SOJF's, like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, Big Blocker said: Not saying I thought we'd be friends or anything, but I didn't find Holmes to be the problem a lot of Jet fans did. We got plenty out of him, like Marshall. There's a reason why great talents like Marshall and Holmes bounce around. No harm in bringing them in for cheap to try and catch lightning in a bottle. The key is to part ways before it gets too messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Option 1: Holmes, Braylon, Mark n Rex Vs Option 2: Decker, Enunwa, poop n Bowles Even though I like Q, give me option 1 every damn time. And it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Lil Woody said: Just another low character scumbag that the Jets made a home for. We are a pathetic franchise and will always be one unless our owner dies and his estate sells the team to a person who understands how to run a respectable operation, preferably someone who actually earned their wealthy instead of getting it from mommy's sugar daddy. We let the inmates run the asylum here and as a result we are a bottom feeder program. The faster we get rid of trash like Sheldon from this team and start putting a premium on class and professionalism the better. oh boy. i get the part about holmes be a perfect ahole but the shelly comparison is a bit much. shelly at least shows up for games and even though he wasn't so good this past season he was good his first 3 seasons. i also fully agree that they need some players who know how to win and leave the bs at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Option 1: Holmes, Braylon, Mark n Rex Vs Option 2: Decker, Enunwa, poop n Bowles Even though I like Q, give me option 1 every damn time. And it's not even close. Obv neither get you where you need to be but there's no question between The two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 hours ago, MDL_JET said: It's amazing to me how talented guys like him and Braylon, just fall off a cliff and that's it for their careers. Weird. No heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Lupz27 said: The trade was great, signing him long term the following year not so great. Exactly correct! I don't recall the contract numbers, but I remember that for what for what we paid him we could have signed 3-5 solid players to fill positions of need and add depth. Instead we spend all the money on Tone (at Woody's urging) and have to cut a bunch of quality players (Woody, Slauson, Richardson, LT, Hartsock, Braylon), which completely change the complexion of the team (for example: we couldn't protect Sanchez). Then holmes, gets injured, then he cops and attitude, then we get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, munchmemory said: No heart. Braylon? No heart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: The guy was a massive assclown and a total underachiever who had a few good games with us. A soft zero character dingbat. He was mostly garbage. Braylon Edwards was far far better. Rex Ryan making a him a captain. if that didn't signal that Rex had zero clue then nothing did. I can't agree with all of this, but I do agree making him a captain was the wrong thing to do. The dude had a massive ego as it was, making him captain made him just intolerable. This after the Steelers dumped him because of his attitude and likely salary demands the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I think this is typical of the Rex bashing. It didn't work, but making an immature guy a captain in the hopes that he will show some responsibility is not a novel concept. He was given the title in the hope that he would live up to it. He didn't. Matching him up with Burress and Mason didn't help, but choosing him over Braylon was still the right move. Would have been better off without either. Could have gone after Vincent Jackson, but he was franchised. With the characters those guys were looking at it is more surprising they didn't go after T.O. or Moss. Neither of those washed up stiffs caught a single ball in 2011. Braylon went for a whopping 15/181/0. Makes Holmes 51/654/8 look monstrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, munchmemory said: No heart. They both had plenty of heart, they were just deficient from the neck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Randy Rasmussen Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Top 3 most unlikable Jet but IT WAS fun while it lasted. Jets have had a few cool moments with killer WR groups. Edwards, Holmes and Cotch might be second only to Walker/Toon/Townsell Oh yeah that's if you don't count Maynard, Sauer and Bake Turner or Caster, Barkum and Bell.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Even in hindsight, I still love the trade. He gave us much more than a 5th would've. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Right we should be more like the Patriots who drafted a thug and murderer in Aaron Hernandez and just this year signed Malcolm Floyd after he was cut for a DUI and found unconscious behind the wheel. You want to know what really sucks about the jets? SOJF's, like you. LOL. Yeah because wanting to be a respectable organization and rooting for a team that I am actually proud of (did you really try to suggest I was putting the cheats in that category?) is such a SOJ fan thing to do. Nah kid. SOJ fans want instant gratification, they want to chase every free agent, they don't want to think about anything past the moment, and they want to win at all costs - even when that means having guys like Big Ben as the face of the franchise and any other piece of sh*t scumbag like Joe Mixon or whoever else the NFL keeps allowing into the league despite being criminal trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Randy Rasmussen said: Oh yeah that's if you don't count Maynard, Sauer and Bake Turner or Caster, Barkum and Bell. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Before my time old man. Should have prefaced that sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, HessStation said: Why does Jim Croce look like Richard Pryor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, rangerous said: oh boy. i get the part about holmes be a perfect ahole but the shelly comparison is a bit much. shelly at least shows up for games and even though he wasn't so good this past season he was good his first 3 seasons. i also fully agree that they need some players who know how to win and leave the bs at home. I mean I'm not comparing them as players....but they are both selfish immature scum. Holmes was arrested at least once for DV - I remember one of the times he got picked up for beating the sh*t out of his kid's mother, Sheldon we all know for child endangerment along with drugs/guns/drag racing etc.... The fact that Holmes quit on the field doesn't make him the bad one and just because Sheldon didn't quit it doesn't excuse his actions. Both are sh*theads and both are an embarrassment. You can't get rid of these types fast enough if you want a well run professional organization. And that's what I want as a fan. To be proud of my team as well as to be entertained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 7 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: Exactly correct! I don't recall the contract numbers, but I remember that for what for what we paid him we could have signed 3-5 solid players to fill positions of need and add depth. Instead we spend all the money on Tone (at Woody's urging) and have to cut a bunch of quality players (Woody, Slauson, Richardson, LT, Hartsock, Braylon), which completely change the complexion of the team (for example: we couldn't protect Sanchez). Then holmes, gets injured, then he cops and attitude, then we get rid of him. This is the single most annoying crap our fan base utters. Yeah, escape goat. And you can't find 3-5 solid players for $10 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 His tenure ended very badly, but that was still a great trade. He was absolutely worth a 5th round pick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 5 hours ago, j4jets said: This is the single most annoying crap our fan base utters. Yeah, escape goat. And you can't find 3-5 solid players for $10 mil. What you're saying is crap! First, get your numbers straight. The deal was for $50M with $24M guaranteed! This was 7 years ago! For that money in those days you could get 3 solid starting quality position players. Instead we sign Holmes and cut half our offense. Sanchez got destroyed the next year due to lack of protection, run blocking and receiving corps. The Holmes deal marked the end of our playoff run and was the first domino to fall which led to the departure of Tannenbaum and hiring of Idzik and we know how things went from there. Holmes was a good player, but the contract the Jets gave him destroyed the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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