UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: When I look at the Jets and ask "where do we need to invest more resources," the only answer is inside linebacker Invest? What a moron you are You're trading a JAG for a better JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: When I look at the Jets and ask "where do we need to invest more resources?" the only answer is inside linebacker i meant on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, JiF said: ILB'ers and Safeties is how you fill a roster and field a competitive team. JEts fans being dumb. death and taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, JiF said: ILB'ers and Safeties is how you fill a roster and field a competitive team. According to Bowles, it would seem so..... I am still disappointed we did not get a top 10 starting QB for Pryor, he was definitely worth it, and IMO, that is what we really need to make this a competitive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 There wasn't a backup TE or a punt returner on the Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Contractually, this is us basically Brock Osweiler'ing Pryor. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me out of this. The Jets could end up cutting Davis and ultimately escape all of the guarantees they would have been stuck with if doing the same with Pryor. Who knows if that will happen, but the money, and perhaps the possibility of Pryor being a complete douche, seems to be the only possible reasoning to this all. Still freakin' weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Bleedin Green said: That's the only thing that makes any sense to me out of this. The Jets could end up cutting Davis and ultimately escape all of the guarantees they would have been stuck with if doing the same with Pryor. Who knows if that will happen, but the money, and perhaps the possibility of Pryor being a complete douche, seems to be the only possible reasoning to this all. Still freakin' weird. Why? NOBODY has given me a reason why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: There wasn't a backup TE or a punt returner on the Browns? The Jets first ask was a couple of cheap Chinese Android tablets for Pryor.... The Browns balked unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, NoBowles said: According to Bowles, it would seem so..... I am still disappointed we did not get a top 10 starting QB for Pryor, he was definitely worth it, and IMO, that is what we really need to make this a competitive team. ILB'er and Safeties = Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: There wasn't a backup TE or a punt returner on the Browns? Only ILB'ers and Safeties.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 JN now bitching the Jets didn't get back enough for a player they have been saying since he got here "he sucks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, JiF said: ILB'er and Safeties = Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, JiF said: ILB'er and Safeties = Super Bowl. You are so dumb. It's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Somebody has yet to tell me why this is a bad deal. No one has given me a statement Here's one: a draft pick--any draft pick--is categorically more valuable than a 28-year-old on a one-year deal who plays a low-value position poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Maybe Green can get something out of Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: Here's one: a draft pick--any draft pick--is categorically more valuable than a 28-year-old on a one-year deal who plays a low-value position poorly. WRONG. Give me the proven commodity over a very low draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 This may be nothing more thana move to clear cap space. Cleveland takes on Pryor's $1.6MM guaranteed base salary. The Jets take on Davis' $3.7MM non-guaranteed base. If we cut Davis prior to the season, we save Pryor's $1.6MM cap hit that we would have had to absorb if we had released him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said: That's the only thing that makes any sense to me out of this. The Jets could end up cutting Davis and ultimately escape all of the guarantees they would have been stuck with if doing the same with Pryor. Who knows if that will happen, but the money, and perhaps the possibility of Pryor being a complete douche, seems to be the only possible reasoning to this all. Still freakin' weird. Yup, the more I think about it. The more I think they're just dumping Pryor. Davis was a popular guy in the locker room, so he'll have a positive impact in that capacity. I cannot remember if he plays special teams. I would assume he does. He is a liability if used incorrectly in coverage on defense, but he does give us a body that would make Harris (also a liability in coverage) expendable. It also allows us to move forward with the rebuilt safety position and the other young guys that have emerged as quality players in the past couple years at safety. Pryor was looking at the wrong end of a roster cut down. I don't hate the trade, for what it is - I just hate the optics of it in the grander scheme of being "so Jetsy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: Here's one: a draft pick--any draft pick--is categorically more valuable than a 28-year-old on a one-year deal who plays a low-value position poorly. UnitedWhoFans: no that's not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: UnitedWhoFans: no that's not true Give me the proven player who can play a bit over a lottery draft pick deep in the draft who might not be able to play at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: WRONG. Give me the proven commodity over a very low draft pick So close. I forgot to plug in the derp qualifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Lith said: This may be nothing more thana move to clear cap space. Cleveland takes on Pryor's $1.6MM guaranteed base salary. The Jets take on Davis' $3.7MM non-guaranteed base. If we cut Davis prior to the season, we save Pryor's $1.6MM cap hit that we would have had to absorb if we had released him. I said this! I'm so smart, hopefully UnitedPoofans won't call me dumb!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: So close. I forgot to plug in the derp qualifier. Then you're dumb too. You would seriously a 7th round draft pick over a player that has been able to play in the NFL for 5 years even as depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 He had 99 tackles last year....we stole him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Give me the proven player who can play a bit over a lottery draft pick deep in the draft who might not be able to play at all. Is that what you think "lottery pick" means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, JOJOTOWNSELL said: He had 99 tackles last year....we stole him I'll take 99 tackles over a lottery 7th round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Only the Jets would trade one of their former first rounders for one of their former third rounders. Forgetting the players just for a second, that says all you need to know about this organizations decades long struggles and the reason being we can't draft successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: Is that what you think "lottery pick" means? The NFL draft is a lottery. Especially at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: The NFL draft is a lottery. Especially at that level Just checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Then you're dumb too. You would seriously a 7th round draft pick over a player that has been able to play in the NFL for 5 years even as depth? But when we trade down in the draft to add extra 7th rounders, then it's outrage. I don't know what to think anymore... please plagiarize something you read on twitter to help me understand!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: The NFL draft is a lottery. Especially at that level Actually, a lottery is a lottery. A draft, is actually a draft. Actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: Just checking Ok. Keep being in your anti Maccagnan haze while he is potentially clearing cap space and getting quality depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Integrity28 said: Actually, a lottery is a lottery. A draft, is actually a draft. Actually. That's just semantics and you know that. You're smarter than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: That's just semantics and you know that. You're smarter than that Actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Here's one: a draft pick--any draft pick--is categorically more valuable than a 28-year-old on a one-year deal who plays a low-value position poorly. because you know teams were offering up a draft pick? Davis at least provides experienced ILB / ST depth.. And for all crying for a draft pick he's also an UFA at the end of the year so MAYBE he will help bring back a comp pick should he sign elsewhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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