Philc1 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: I think he will definitely fall to the 3rd or even 4th. I’d definitely draft him in the 3rd. Brown is this year’s Cam Robinson if he’s there at 3rd round snatch him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Now do Josh Allen plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Anyone but Rosen.... We need to stay far away from him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 The bottom line with Rosen is that I can't take a guy who consistently gets banged up and has to miss games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 14 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: The bottom line with Rosen is that I can't take a guy who consistently gets banged up and has to miss games This is it.. I get why people love him - Nothing against his personality or skill-set... Multiple shoulder surgies, multiple concussions and hasn't finished a season in 2 years. That should frigthen everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Philc1 said: I really like Mayfield Woah man, you said it, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: This is it.. I get why people love him - Nothing against his personality or skill-set... Multiple shoulder surgies, multiple concussions and hasn't finished a season in 2 years. That should frigthen everyone. And Mayfield has had multiple concussions too but somehow his don’t count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 19 hours ago, Philc1 said: I really like Mayfield’s left tackle Orlando Brown but I doubt he lasts all the way to the third round As far as durability goes anyone can last a long time if you build up the OL Which Mac and Bowles will never do. Why a delicate pure pocket guy like Rosen is not a great fit. If Mac/Bowles aren’t around much longer, then maybe a new regime would not put the Oline always last on their list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: And Mayfield has had multiple concussions too but somehow his don’t count didn't miss much time at all, different. Rosen misses games.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 20 hours ago, Philc1 said: Before going to UCLA and being a standout there Rosen was the top ranked qb in the entire country there is a reason for that Hack was the top rated HS QB when he came out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I don't really care about the "off the field" stuff the media is talking. If the Jets dont/cant take Mayfield I would be fine with Josh Rosen as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I don't really care about the "off the field" stuff the media is talking. If the Jets dont/cant take Mayfield I would be fine with Josh Rosen as well. Kid has the goods...tellin’ ya’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Kid has the goods...tellin’ ya’. I agree. The worst case scenario for me is Mayfield and Rosen going in the top 2. If that happens we're ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:48 AM, Bruce Harper said: Hack was the top rated HS QB when he came out too. Hack also took huge hits at Penn State. Rosen had better talent around him but he has this tendency to milk every play, stand tall and take a massive hit in the pocket. It's admirable but it's not a long-term strategy for survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I agree. The worst case scenario for me is Mayfield and Rosen going in the top 2. If that happens we're ****ed. Good thing about that is I don’t think it will happen. Probably the slimmest chance of all scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:27 AM, Jetsplayer21 said: Which Mac and Bowles will never do. Why a delicate pure pocket guy like Rosen is not a great fit. If Mac/Bowles aren’t around much longer, then maybe a new regime would not put the Oline always last on their list. Mayfield had the nation’s best OL at Oklahoma. Every qb not named Brady or Manning needs a good OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 The more I read, and the more I watch Rosen is just head and shoulders above everyone else. I think it's Rosen or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Yep. Mayfield is going #1 Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Good thing about that is I don’t think it will happen. Probably the slimmest chance of all scenarios. The closer we get to the draft the more I think that the Sam Darnold/Josh Allen talks for Cleveland is nothing more than smoke screens. I think they could seriously be considering Baker Mayfield. If that's the case, I dont think that Sam Darnold is a better QB than Josh Rosen. The only 1up he has on Rosen is durability. But he's not the better QB and he has turnover issues...not just from a position of INT's but fumbles. I could see the Giants taking Rosen @ #2! lol. Leaving the Jets with Sam Darnold and Lamar Jackson. In that scenario I would have to go Lamar Jackson. I dont trust Sam Darnold. I DONT trust this dude so much so that im willing to bet that neither does John Dorsey. I think the problem Cleveland has with drafting Mayfield is in a way similar to the problem Houston had drafting Derek Carr. When you have a bad experience with a player and a new player comes in years later that in some way has a relationship to (Carr brothers) or been heavily compared (Manziel/Mayfield) I think it's hard for GM's to make the call because if it doesn't go well it's like "They did it again" type situation. But like Derek Carr not being David Carr, I think GM John Dorsey is really considering Mayfield. As for the Giants, I know folks have said that the Giants believe that Eli has a couple more championship runs in him. Well, if they really believe that, then that means that the Giants believe that they will not be anywhere near the top of the draft for quite some time. That means that this IS the perfect opportunity to take a QB and groom him. They dont have to draft Barkley at #2 when they can get a guy who may be just as good further down in the draft. I think that if the Giants are going QB there's a strong possibility that they take Sam....but I think there are folks who believe, including myself, that Rosen is the better QB. And if you're not going to play him this season then he has a year to heal from his concussions as well as learn the system and bulk up a bit to protect himself, and who better to learn from than the Ironman of the league in Eli Manning when ti comes to durability? We could really be looking at Sam and Lamar at #3. In that situation, can you even trade down? You lose all of that draft stock moving up and taking Lamar 3rd overall is mighty high, taking Sam #3 will gain applause but will it be a good decision 2 years from now? We need either Mayfield or Rosen....or suck it up, trade down, get those picks back from somewhere, maybe pick up (and I HATE having to say this) a defensive player in the first and try drafting guys like a Mike White or Kyle Lauletta further down in the draft. I dont trust Sam Darnold. I just dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Rosen is killing the media circuit, he's on the FAN right now. Just love the way he handles questions and his responses towards the QB position. I'm falling in love all over again. I'm sorry Rosen one, I'm back. Get it done Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Rosen is killing the media circuit, he's on the FAN right now. Just love the way he handles questions and his responses towards the QB position. I'm falling in love all over again. I'm sorry Rosen one, I'm back. Get it done Mac. That was a great interview. Well spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Villain The Foe said: I agree. The worst case scenario for me is Mayfield and Rosen going in the top 2. If that happens we're ****ed. Darnold will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Darnold will be good. If we end up with him I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 This dude would be legend in NY, if only for the interviews with Francesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Rosen is killing the media circuit, he's on the FAN right now. Just love the way he handles questions and his responses towards the QB position. I'm falling in love all over again. I'm sorry Rosen one, I'm back. Get it done Mac. Draft this beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This dude would be legend in NY, if only for the interviews with Francesa. Wow he was more cocky than I expected. He seemed to somewhat challenge Darnold and Mayfield by saying he's confident he'll still be standing when compared to them. That felt a little unnecessary to me. Who knows if this is being coached into him to try to win teams over though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: This dude would be legend in NY, if only for the interviews with Francesa. Looking like this when asked about his thoughts on being #1 pick (basically to the Browns) He REALLY does not want to go to Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Wow he was more cocky than I expected. He seemed to somewhat challenge Darnold and Mayfield by saying he's confident he'll still be standing when compared to them. That felt a little unnecessary to me. Who knows if this is being coached into him to try to win teams over though. That was cold. He basically compared them to every other QB that was ranked above him that never made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Rosen is killing the media circuit, he's on the FAN right now. Just love the way he handles questions and his responses towards the QB position. I'm falling in love all over again. I'm sorry Rosen one, I'm back. Get it done Mac. I don't want to admit it, because I'll probably end up hurt come Thursday night (or Friday morning here!), but I love Rosen. I love his play, I love his upside, I love his intelligence and his confidence and his all-round aura. We're gonna end up with Josh Allen aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, morny said: I don't want to admit it, because I'll probably end up hurt come Thursday night (or Friday morning here!), but I love Rosen. I love his play, I love his upside, I love his intelligence and his confidence and his all-round aura. We're gonna end up with Josh Allen aren't we? Oh totally. I’m fully prepared for it. And prepared for Rosen to go to the Giants. It’s gonna suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Oh totally. I’m fully prepared for it. And prepared for Rosen to go to the Giants. It’s gonna suck. How crazy would it be to move up to the 3rd spot only to watch as both the Browns....the skid marks of the league actually draft a franchise QB, and at the same time the Giants just so happens to be worse than the Jets and gets to pick 2nd and they also pick a guy who takes over after Eli and the Jets draft the strongest arm in the NFL since Jamarcus Russell. lol. I am NOT prepared for that. That would be SOJ to the f'ing extreme. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 4/22/2018 at 6:12 PM, FidelioJet said: Anyone but Rosen.... We need to stay far away from him! The best pure passer that has ties to Bates via a Seattle coach and is a perfect fit for his system. Why would you want HIM? I think he's going to be the best QB in this class. Also, and a big also, he can start very quickly and not subject us to meaningless QB play for another year. I don't want a QB this year that has to sit the whole season - I'm so tired of that BS. Plus, they will teach him how to get rid of the ball and not take meaningless hits. He's not fast, but he has excellent footwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Greensleeves said: The best pure passer that has ties to Bates via a Seattle coach and is a perfect fit for his system. Why would you want HIM? I think he's going to be the best QB in this class. Also, and a big also, he can start very quickly and not subject us to meaningless QB play for another year. I don't want a QB this year that has to sit the whole season - I'm so tired of that BS. Plus, they will teach him how to get rid of the ball and not take meaningless hits. He's not fast, but he has excellent footwork. But in order to help us win he has to be on the field and finish a season - which he hasn't done in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: But in order to help us win he has to be on the field and finish a season - which he hasn't done in two years. Thanks for the prediction, Fidelio. Did you go to the future when SAR went? Rosen is the best QB in this draft. Mayfield is good too. But Rosen is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: But in order to help us win he has to be on the field and finish a season - which he hasn't done in two years. I understand your apprehension - it seems like whenever we get a good QB he goes down and misses half the games. I just don't think you avoid the better player. Any of these QBs could get hurt and miss time. Rosen needs to learn how to throw the ball away and not take so many hits. He needs to look at film of Brady. He does have quick feet, so he's not a statue. Did you know he beat Taylor Fritz in a tennis match when he was a junior. Taylor is a promising young pro player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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