Philc1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: ill take dee ford in free agency and not look back He’s getting tagged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 seriously....worst gameplan ever. i stopped watching but i'm pretty sure i didn't see them blitz once Yup. Gotta be aggressive against Brady. Sure, you’ll give up big plays but you’ll come up with a few too. Trying to slow him down is just stupid. Seems to be the Chargers plan. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: You make a good argument. I'd be fine with using this draft to completely restock the oline (provided the players are worth where we take them). But I would still want to see something on the Edge added in free agency. Okay so trade the 3 pick to the Giants for the 6 pick and Olivier Vernon and then draft Jonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, cant wait said: tyreek hill and michael thomas are absolutely bonafide #1 WR’s They are but KC also has Kelce and a dominant running game. The Saints have Kamara & Ingram. It's all about balance on offense. The only team that had comparable weapons on offense that failed this year was Pitt. Yes, SD has a ton of weapons on offense too but I still believe Rivers is their Achilles heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Larz said: That and corners Gilmore and mccourty are the best combo in the NFL They are good, also perhaps the most skillful at holding and pi and there is zero question the pats get favourable treatment 9 games out of 10. the last game vs the Jets Gilmore literally could have been called for half a dozen penalties and he got none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: I agree with you. Have they won a Super Bowl yet? (I hope either of them do..not New England with their no #1) well they are the top 2 favorites to win so let’s hope it works out that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Look nobody wants to focus on the oline more than me BUT I wouldnt reach for one at 3 with better impact talent available at 3. We need to improve the pash rush as well. In a perfect world we are able to trade down and gain a second back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Okay so trade the 3 pick to the Giants for the 6 pick and Olivier Vernon and then draft Jonah Trade NOTHING to the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: They are but KC also has Kelce and a dominant running game. The Saints have Kamara & Ingram. It's all about balance on offense. The only team that has comparable weapons on offense that failed this year was Pitt. Yes, SD has a ton of weapons on offense too but I still believe Rivers is their Achilles heel. well on the other hand there are a few teams right now with comparable weapons on offense (vikings, giants) but they weren’t consistent because of bad OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Trent Brown should be a free agent target. He’s absolutely monsterous, with great feet, and with him we could potentially slide Beachum to RT or either OG spot. If Gase’s offense is a power blocking scheme, and looking at his MIA roster, I believe it is, we could re-sign Carpenter, because he excels in that scheme, and get another big fatty like Glowinski to replace Winters. Draft a center in the 3rd round, and we’re set. Point is, we don’t need to draft OL with our first three picks to improve our roster. Von Miller called Trent Brown the best OT he’s faced in the nfl. Sign him and start him at RT next year then he takes over LT in 2020 after Beachum leaves as a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: They are but KC also has Kelce and a dominant running game. The Saints have Kamara & Ingram. It's all about balance on offense. The only team that had comparable weapons on offense that failed this year was Pitt. Yes, SD has a ton of weapons on offense too but I still believe Rivers is their Achilles heel. Rivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, cant wait said: well on the other hand there are a few teams right now with comparable weapons on offense (vikings, giants) but they weren’t consistent because of bad OL Agree. Teams don't have great running games and QBs throwing for a ton of yards & TDs without a solid line. Balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I agree with the premise of the post if not the "facts". The Bears lost because they missed a field goal. As I recall they had a pretty good pass rush in that game and Foles didn't exactly have a day at the beach. In the Chiefs game you can take the opposite take and say they had such a large lead due in part to the fact that Luck was under siege all day, from the strong pass rush, and as a result KC had more possessions, better field position and more scoring opportunities. The Patriots game was a massacre. Regardless, the Patriots' pass rush was in Rivers jersey the whole game making it impossible to expose their weak secondary, resulting in no first downs, Patriots possessions and scores. The presence of one ELITE pass rusher can change the complexion/effectiveness of the whole defense and make it that much better. Witness the upgrade in stature of the Bears defense with the addition of Khalil Mack. The Texans for years have lived off the impact of JJ Watt. Yes there are other contributors but the one elite player helps raise the entire defense. The Jets need that Elite Rusher. That being said, I agree the rebuild of the Offensive line is the most important task the Jets have this off-season. Gaps in pass rush and holes in defense can be masked through blitz packages and schemes. Not so on the Offensive Line. Here the weak link will almost always get exposed. And we have many weak links on our line. Thanks Macc. This can be fixed through a combination of veteran free agents and draft picks. But it must be fixed. NOW. If that elite can't miss pass rusher is there at 3, take him. My preference would be to trade back, and use that and the subsequent acquired pick/s for Offensive Linemen that fit the slotted draft position. No reaches. Grab a wide receiver or running back in the third round if possible and if not go free agent. But to say that Defense or Pass Rush does not matter is just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Get both (OL upgrades and a passrushing olb). We have $100m. C'mon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Okay so trade the 3 pick to the Giants for the 6 pick and Olivier Vernon and then draft Jonah I am all for them trading back if they can find a partner. Doubt it's the Giants but I'm with you on where you're going. Even if it isnt for the type of value Indy got last year, I'm all for it. Indy traded back (When they could have had the stud pass rusher if they stayed put) and grabbed the best olineman and this year Luck has never looked better, they made the playoffs and have two 2nd rounders again this year. Not sure if Jonah is anything like the G Indy grabbed, that kid already looks like he is at the top of his position, but I agree with the premise of what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 did demarcus lawrence play yesterday? sorta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, dbatesman said: good call +1 we can just get one whenever we want. They're always available on demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I would draft Jonah Williams from Alabama and sign and edge rusher in free agency preferably Dee Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: I agree with the premise of the post if not the "facts". The Bears lost because they missed a field goal. As I recall they had a pretty good pass rush in that game and Foles didn't exactly have a day at the beach. In the Chiefs game you can take the opposite take and say they had such a large lead due in part to the fact that Luck was under siege all day, from the strong pass rush, and as a result KC had more possessions, better field position and more scoring opportunities. The Patriots game was a massacre. Regardless, the Patriots' pass rush was in Rivers jersey the whole game making it impossible to expose their weak secondary, resulting in no first downs, Patriots possessions and scores. The presence of one ELITE pass rusher can change the complexion/effectiveness of the whole defense and make it that much better. Witness the upgrade in stature of the Bears defense with the addition of Khalil Mack. The Texans for years have lived off the impact of JJ Watt. Yes there are other contributors but the one elite player helps raise the entire defense. The Jets need that Elite Rusher. That being said, I agree the rebuild of the Offensive line is the most important task the Jets have this off-season. Gaps in pass rush and holes in defense can be masked through blitz packages and schemes. Not so on the Offensive Line. Here the weak link will almost always get exposed. And we have many weak links on our line. Thanks Macc. This can be fixed through a combination of veteran free agents and draft picks. But it must be fixed. NOW. If that elite can't miss pass rusher is there at 3, take him. My preference would be to trade back, and use that and the subsequent acquired pick/s for Offensive Linemen that fit the slotted draft position. No reaches. Grab a wide receiver or running back in the third round if possible and if not go free agent. But to say that Defense or Pass Rush does not matter is just plain stupid. So help me if we pass up on the only unique-skill edge rusher we've drafted since 2000, so we could grab a RT you can get from anywhere, I don't know what I'll do. I might even be pressed to say something unflattering about the GM. Just get one next year, lol. Sure the're all over the place. There are like 2-3 guys on every team all over the league capable of 15+ sacks. We'll just put $100 under our pillow and the edge rusher fairy will make one appear. Not only that but he'll have a banner year that season we need/draft him starting right away with no grooming and experience needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: +1 we can just get one whenever we want. They're always available on demand. I watched four random games and concluded that pass rushers arent important *chugs gallon of Sterno* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I watched four random games and concluded that pass rushers arent important *chugs gallon of Sterno* Pittsburgh has two #1 WRs and missed the playoffs, therefore WRs are not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: I still want one. Not at 3 though. I would be very disappointed if we did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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