Joe W. Namath Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Lith said: May be more than a tweak This would be devasting to this team. If trumaine tore something, big joe is going to have to trade a premium pick to get a guy in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, slats said: That would be disappointing. By all accounts Wesco was at least 1-2 rounds overdrafted so getting him on the PS if he continues to be invisible this summer shouldn’t be risky. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, kdels62 said: I’m curious to see how Williams is scheming Johnson. All these picks seem to be Johnson with eyes on Darnold making a break on the ball rather than smothering coverage. My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, kdels62 said: I’m curious to see how Williams is scheming Johnson. All these picks seem to be Johnson with eyes on Darnold making a break on the ball rather than smothering coverage. My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, kdels62 said: I’m curious to see how Williams is scheming Johnson. All these picks seem to be Johnson with eyes on Darnold making a break on the ball rather than smothering coverage. My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, BCJet said: My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. 2 minutes ago, BCJet said: My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. 1 minute ago, BCJet said: My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. Say what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Off the top of your head, who is the best nickel back in the NFL? It's a very difficult position to play. You don't have the sideline to work with and you can barely touch WR's anymore. Every nickel back gets beat at a higher rate than outside CB's do. They're always hated by the fans. It's just a tough spot. The league wants offense to win. Best nickel cb is Denver Chris Harris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: Best nickel cb is Denver Chris Harris YA BOI GOT FROSTBITE FEET SON 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, BCJet said: My guess is that he has Johnson in man coverage but with help behind him so that he can take chances on the ball. Tru is not close to good enough to leave solo against a good WR, he just doesnt have the athleticism anymore. Let him play man coverage with some help over the top and let the rest of the team mix in zone, etc. and he should be able to play much better than last year. I still don’t understand in a copy cat league no other team has figured out what the Pats have, the best way to deploy your best man to man CB is leave him on an Island with the #2 WR, and bracket cover every other guy. If your shut down CB can’t stop a #2 WR for about 3-4 seconds then you have a bigger issue with a highly paid player that isn’t worth what you paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Wesco could be a surprise PS guy. Tomlinson makes the team by default It would be unlikely for him to make it to the PS, and he was not overdrafted, he went where most thought he would. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team archer Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I still don’t understand in a copy cat league no other team has figured out what the Pats have, the best way to deploy your best man to man CB is leave him on an Island with the #2 WR, and bracket cover every other guy. If your shut down CB can’t stop a #2 WR for about 3-4 seconds then you have a bigger issue with a highly paid player that isn’t worth what you paid. Ive always wondered this as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It would be unlikely for him to make it to the PS, and he was not overdrafted, he went where most thought he would. We could easily get him on the practice squad. Nobody knows who this dude is nor did he do anything in college. He was waaaaaay overdrafted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It would be unlikely for him to make it to the PS, and he was not overdrafted, he went where most thought he would. Probably the steal of the draft TBQH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Tru missed a bunch o games last year as well... absolute bust also disappointed that wesco is never mentioned. i thought that hed escort #26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Say what? Ha - not sure what happened there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Trumaine is a half speed, half ass player who is constantly injury prone. Thanks Maccagnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Trumaine is a half speed, half ass player who is constantly injury prone. Thanks Maccagnan. So as we speak we need 2 starting CB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: So as we speak we need 2 starting CB's. Not looking good for us right now. Don’t matter how solid the first two levels of our defense are. It’s 2019, it’s a passing league, good teams are going to pick us apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Not looking good for us right now. Don’t matter how solid the first two levels of our defense are. It’s 2019, it’s a passing league, good teams are going to pick us apart. @Lith posted this list earlier. Free Agent CBs: Brent Grimes, Cody Sensabaugh, Shareece Wright, Sam Shields. Captain Munnerlyn signed with the Bills yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'd be curious to know if Falk got 3rd team reps today over Webb. With Cashman out, who filled in? With Jones waived at CB, what is the new rotation on 2nd team, and 3rd team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Not looking good for us right now. Don’t matter how solid the first two levels of our defense are. It’s 2019, it’s a passing league, good teams are going to pick us apart. We spend virtually all of our high picks on Defense for years and years and we have no CBs and no pass rush. We are flooded with run stopping Dbs and plug up the middle run stopping dlineman though. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: @Lith posted this list earlier. Free Agent CBs: Brent Grimes, Cody Sensabaugh, Captain Munnerlyn, Shareece Wright, Sam Shields. They’re mostly all older slot corners. I might would take a shot on Sam Shields but idk. Douglas might need to make a trade. Bargain bin pick ups don’t seem like they can patch up this hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: YA BOI GOT FROSTBITE FEET SON Who cares as long as he’s back for the regular season. Rumors he’s back this week . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: They’re mostly all older slot corners. I might would take a shot on Sam Shields but idk. Douglas might need to make a trade. Bargain bin pick ups don’t seem like they can patch up this hole. No way can we patch the CB position, maybe a trade with Philadelphia or Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Beerfish said: We spend virtually all of our high picks on Defense for years and years and we have no CBs and no pass rush. We are flooded with run stopping Dbs and plug up the middle run stopping dlineman though. Disgusting roster management from the last GM to the one before that and so on. To not have starting caliber corners is one issue but not even having the depth to sorta compete at the position is another. They have to make a move this offseason for someone if they want to really contend for the playoffs this season. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Disgusting roster management from the last GM to the one before that and so on. To not have starting caliber corners is one issue but not even having the depth to sorta compete at the position is another. They have to make a move this offseason for someone if they want to really contend for the playoffs this season. If MM would have picked a CB with the 3rd pick in the 2019 NFL draft Jets fans would have burned MetLife to the ground. We are in trouble at the CB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: Who cares as long as he’s back for the regular season. Rumors he’s back this week . lol my friend who is a raider fan said this same thing... “he’ll be ready for week 1 and that’s all that matters” yea ok. defend your team’s shiny new superstar but don’t be surprised when he isn’t in football shape and pulls his hammy in week 3 running a route. (Ala Revis hold out 2010) you can’t get in football shape unless youre getting popped with pads on for a few weeks. AB is going to run himself out of this league. Idc how good he is. He’s 31-32, a pain in the ass and not getting any younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: lol my friend who is a raider fan said this same thing... “he’ll be ready for week 1 and that’s all that matters” yea ok. defend your team’s shiny new superstar but don’t be surprised when he isn’t in football shape and pulls his hammy in week 3 running a route. (Ala Revis hold out 2010) you can’t get in football shape unless youre getting popped with pads on for a few weeks. AB is going to run himself out of this league. Idc how good he is. He’s 31-32, a pain in the ass and not getting any younger. That was all true while he was a Steeler. But now that he's a Raider, he's awesome, and can be 100% without any prep time because...well...he's awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Copernicus said: Strange that Cat was brought back at all after such a strong showing Bertolet had last year. I wonder what impact he had on the Jets front office to warrent him being brought back and the only kicker in camp. Equally as strange that Cat retired as opposed to being cut. Probably one of those situations that Douglass called him in the office and said, "Your Fired", Cat said" you can't fire me, I quit." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: Right now, we have to say both Greg Dortch and Kyron Brown are safely on the roster. Dortch yep Brown, IDK, he didn't look so hot on Thursday. We'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: Probably one of those situations that Douglass called him in the office and said, "Your Fired", Cat said" you can't fire me, I quit." Probably close to that. The jets said we are bringing in other guys and are going to make a change. Then they let him bow out with grace by retiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 If Tru really is hurt we are HURTING in the secondary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: If Tru really is hurt we are HURTING in the secondary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: AB is going to run himself out of this league. Idc how good he is. He’s 31-32, a pain in the ass and not getting any younger. While all this may turn out to be true, AB earned every single penny he got just like Revis prior to 2016. The NFL is a business PERIOD STOP! The sooner you fans accept this the easier it will be to let go of the obsession about million dollar athletes not earning their contracts from the Billionaire owners who make billions whether their team goes 0-16, or wins the Super Bowl. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeTMAC Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: fwiw I do think our corners, and our defense overall is pretty weak. I just think the nickel position gets unfairly picked on no matter who is playing it. It's so hard in todays NFL to slow guys down in the middle of the field. The Jets front seven is going to make up for the weak CB!!! the Jets haven't had a front seven like this in a long time defensive line is nasty with the emergence of NTfatukasi and DLQuinnen Williams.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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