A safety that covers, creates turnovers and has a good attitude, the anti-Adams

[Savage69]

18 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

Rhodes was a really good player.  Maybe he was better. 

He just didn't make Pro Bowls or All Pro other then that yeah..

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

He just didn't make Pro Bowls or All Pro other then that yeah..

Good on Jamal for wrestling the title away from Micah Hyde.

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

yeah because he was grinding his bad knee down to dust

 

 

 

 

Jamal sat out the Ravens game with a tight hamstring

[bitonti]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jamal sat out the Ravens game with a tight hamstring

NFL scouts talk about players like tire treads

Adams is brand new 8/8  

McDougal is like 3/8 good enough to pass inspection for 1 more year 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

NFL scouts talk about players like tire treads

Adams is brand new 8/8  

McDougal is like 3/8 good enough to pass inspection for 1 more year 

That’s cool. What’s 3/8ths of $20 million per year on a tire that still gives you the same mileage? 

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

NFL scouts talk about players like tire treads

Adams is brand new 8/8  

McDougal is like 3/8 good enough to pass inspection for 1 more year 

So why did Adams sit out the Ravens game if he's "brand new 8/8"?

[bitonti]

6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So why did Adams sit out the Ravens game if he's "brand new 8/8"?

hamstrings heal it's soft muscle damage

guys strain their hamstrings at the combine during the 40 

it doesn't affect their long term career in any way

 

torn menisci that get played on for months don't get better even with surgery at 29 

Bm sounds like a good dude who has 1 maybe 2 years left in the NFL, tops 

this site is obsessed with wishing 33 ill will. his hamstring strain vs Baltimore doesn't affect his HOF career track 

[kelticwizard]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jamal sat out the Ravens game with a tight hamstring

Well, you can't run very well with a tight hamstring, and running is a big part of a safety's job description.

[T0mShane]

Just now, kelticwizard said:

Well, you can't run very well with a tight hamstring, and running is a big part of a safety's job description.

He plays five yards off the line of scrimmage. He can run five yards with a tight hammy.

[bitonti]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

That’s cool. What’s 3/8ths of $20 million per year on a tire that still gives you the same mileage? 

if we could define "same mileage" in any reasonable way i'd charity bet you on these players performance in 2020 

but let's assume you are correct and they are the same player 

Jets are 29 million dollars under the cap at the moment

top 5 in the league and that includes over 10 mil of Q and 33 dead money 

the roster is garbage 

unused spend does not make the team better

if a tree falls in the forest etc 

the Jets save all this money for a rainy day that never comes 

the whole team is on one year deals 

if this were the BPL they'd be in danger of relegation 

[Raideraholic]

On 8/5/2020 at 8:55 PM, T0mShane said:

Naming my first born McDougald Ashtyn Shane tbh

Tom you do know that means you have to have sex with the opposite sex.   Let’s just say the Jets have better chance of winning the Super Bowl this year.

[T0mShane]

8 minutes ago, bitonti said:

his hamstring strain vs Baltimore doesn't affect his HOF career track 

I think what might impact his “HOF career track” is that, at his current pace, he’d have to play twelve more seasons to reach a lofty 10 career interceptions. 

[kelticwizard]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

He plays five yards off the line of scrimmage. He can run five yards with a tight hammy.

You mean he can limp five yards with a tight hammy.  The league is filling up with tight ends who run 4.5 and even 4.4 40-yard dashes.  You can't send a safety out there unless he can run full bore.  Nose tackle yes, safety no.

[T0mShane]

21 minutes ago, bitonti said:

if we could define "same mileage" in any reasonable way i'd charity bet you on these players performance in 2020 

but let's assume you are correct and they are the same player 

Jets are 29 million dollars under the cap at the moment

top 5 in the league and that includes over 10 mil of Q and 33 dead money 

the roster is garbage 

unused spend does not make the team better

if a tree falls in the forest etc 

the Jets save all this money for a rainy day that never comes 

the whole team is on one year deals 

if this were the BPL they'd be in danger of relegation 

Sure, but overpaying a low-impact malcontent a-hole still leaves you with a garbage roster minus $100 million and an expensive a-hole.

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, kelticwizard said:

You mean he can limp five yards with a tight hammy.  The league is filling up with tight ends who run 4.5 and even 4.4 40-yard dashes.  You can't send a safety out there unless he can run full bore.  Nose tackle yes, safety no.

Adams was never asked to cover those TE1s one on one.

[bitonti]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Sure, but overpaying A low-impact malcontent a-hole still leaves you with a garbage roster minus $100 million and an expensive a-hole.

The dominoes start to fall. CJ says F this and opts out. Players don't try because ownership isn't trying.

they aren't madden pixels. they are humans and they need a reason to hope

hope for a rebuild in 2023 doesn't do squat for the players on the 2020 Jets 

the key to pay the star you drafted before he becomes a malcontent a-hole 

and even more importantly before you have to go to FA market to get over the cap floor

that's how Trumaine Johnson and Bell signings happen

the Jets have spent way more on FA losers (CJ) they could have paid for 3 Adams types 

[bitonti]

18 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think what might impact his “HOF career track” is that, at his current pace, he’d have to play twelve more seasons to reach a lofty 10 career interceptions. 

TS you've turned 33 hating into a cottage industry and I applaud the high level trolling you've able to accomplish in such a short time

but, one troll to another, 33's value was not ever as a centerfielding ball hawk

he's not ashtyn davis in other words

33 was designed in a lab to stop the spread offense and the sack, TFL, FF, and who knows even DTD stats make up for the lack of INT

he's not a SS he's a $LB and his HOF career track comes more from his All-Pro accolades and soon, possible rings he wasn't going to win in NYJ. 

put it another way people used to say the same thing about Revis. That he didn't intercept the ball enough to be worth the  money 

Revis got everything he wanted too 

at the very least we should be pissed at JD for proving to the roster all you have to do is talk s--t and you can shoot your way out of town. I'd say it sets a troubling precedent, except it's happened before 

Keyshawn, Farrior, Revis, Adams

if you are really good you can shoot your way out of town, get the rings and the money. It's happened more than once. This is an ownership level problem not a JD decision.

spoiler alert They aren't going to pay Darnold either 

 

 

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, bitonti said:

 

he's not a SS he's a $LB and his HOF career track comes more from his All-Pro accolades and soon, possible rings he wasn't going to win in NYJ. 

Know any HOF LB’s that averaged 65 solo tackles on the season? 

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Know any HOF LB’s that averaged 65 solo tackles on the season? 

And the LB excuse doesn't explain how the great LB Joe Schobert (allowed to walk by Cleveland to sign a massive $10.8M per deal with Jacksonville this past offseason) has 3x as many INTs as Adams does and just 6 less Pass Deflections (25-19) in the 2017-present time span.  

Schobert was the # 99 overall pick in 2016, btw.

Maybe if he tweeted more he'd get on a Pro Bowl/All-Pro roster.

[T0mShane]

30 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And the LB excuse doesn't explain how the great LB Joe Schobert (allowed to walk by Cleveland to sign a massive $10.8M per deal with Jacksonville this past offseason) has 3x as many INTs as Adams does and just 6 less Pass Deflections (25-19) in the 2017-present time span.  

Schobert was the # 99 overall pick in 2016, btw.

Maybe if he tweeted more he'd get on a Pro Bowl/All-Pro roster.

You have to know how bit works.

”He’s not a safety, he’s a linebacker!”

You: OK, but he has marginal production for a linebacker.

”He’s actually a safety!”

You: OK, but his production is still eh for a safety.

”The Jets stink!”

[Jetsfan80]

16 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You have to know how bit works.

”He’s not a safety, he’s a linebacker!”

You: OK, but he has marginal production for a linebacker.

”He’s actually a safety!”

You: OK, but his production is still eh for a safety.

”The Jets stink!”

 

You forgot a step.

"He's neither a LB nor a Safety!  He does things no one else does!"

Me:  Points out at least 15 guys who have a similar or better statistical profile as Adams, across all categories.

"The Jets stink!"

[Wonderboy]

49 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And the LB excuse doesn't explain how the great LB Joe Schobert (allowed to walk by Cleveland to sign a massive $10.8M per deal with Jacksonville this past offseason) has 3x as many INTs as Adams does and just 6 less Pass Deflections (25-19) in the 2017-present time span.  

Schobert was the # 99 overall pick in 2016, btw.

Maybe if he tweeted more he'd get on a Pro Bowl/All-Pro roster.

Jamal’s theme song.

 

[Wonderboy]

On 8/5/2020 at 7:02 PM, T0mShane said:

I’d give this guy 5/$100mil right now

McDougald is saying all the right things acting like a real playa.  He’d probably donate half of that 100 mill to the Jamal Adams Only  My Life Matters movement. Jamal needs all the help he can get. Narcissistic, selfish, delusional is no way to go through life. 

[Dcat]

On 8/5/2020 at 11:00 PM, LIJetsFan said:

Yeah it seems to me that McD seals the deal and makes the trade beyond doubt in our favor.  I really can't imagine why the seahawks did it.  Trading all that for what, perhaps a 20 % improvement in one position.  

Now matter how you quantify it, it is a definite downgrade in coverage for Seattle.  He must think Jamal is his time portal back to his Legion of Boom.  Carroll is nearing the end of his career and I get why he's doing this. Not too many chances left and he outright pissed away a Lombardi the last time.  

[Wonderboy]

2 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

TS you've turned 33 hating into a cottage industry and I applaud the high level trolling you've able to accomplish in such a short time

but, one troll to another, 33's value was not ever as a centerfielding ball hawk

he's not ashtyn davis in other words

33 was designed in a lab to stop the spread offense and the sack, TFL, FF, and who knows even DTD stats make up for the lack of INT

he's not a SS he's a $LB and his HOF career track comes more from his All-Pro accolades and soon, possible rings he wasn't going to win in NYJ. 

put it another way people used to say the same thing about Revis. That he didn't intercept the ball enough to be worth the  money 

Revis got everything he wanted too 

at the very least we should be pissed at JD for proving to the roster all you have to do is talk s--t and you can shoot your way out of town. I'd say it sets a troubling precedent, except it's happened before 

Keyshawn, Farrior, Revis, Adams

if you are really good you can shoot your way out of town, get the rings and the money. It's happened more than once. This is an ownership level problem not a JD decision.

spoiler alert They aren't going to pay Darnold either

Adams is Keyshawn’s protege. Two of the most overrated Jets of all time. Farrior excelled after moving to the Steelers. They should have never let him go. Revis deserved the contract. Period. Best CB in NFL history in his prime. And in response to your spoiler alert 

‘spoiler alert They aren't going to pay Darnold either’

 

[Vudu]

Jets fans will turn on him soon enough

[slats]

20 hours ago, bitonti said:

hamstrings heal it's soft muscle damage

guys strain their hamstrings at the combine during the 40 

it doesn't affect their long term career in any way

 

torn menisci that get played on for months don't get better even with surgery at 29 

Bm sounds like a good dude who has 1 maybe 2 years left in the NFL, tops 

this site is obsessed with wishing 33 ill will. his hamstring strain vs Baltimore doesn't affect his HOF career track 

I don't wish Adams any ill will, but one of the reasons I wanted him traded and feel he's overrated is that he's just simply not an elite athlete to begin with. He's a smart player, very instinctive, high motor, well-prepared, all good stuff! But when he loses a step, his effectiveness is gonna fall off a cliff because he's already getting by on his primarily on his smarts. He's not like these freak athletes that get by on raw ability young, and then on their experience later. 

[Larz]

Seahawks invest 2 first round picks to upgrade at safety

Jets fans think the guy the Seahawks gave away to clear cap space is better than Adam's because tweets 

Lol

[Dcat]

15 minutes ago, Larz said:

Seahawks invest 2 first round picks to upgrade at safety

Jets fans think the guy the Seahawks gave away to clear cap space is better than Adam's because tweets 

Lol

He's better in coverage and the stats prove it.

[Jet Nut]

22 hours ago, bitonti said:

hamstrings heal it's soft muscle damage

guys strain their hamstrings at the combine during the 40 

it doesn't affect their long term career in any way

 

torn menisci that get played on for months don't get better even with surgery at 29 

Bm sounds like a good dude who has 1 maybe 2 years left in the NFL, tops 

this site is obsessed with wishing 33 ill will. his hamstring strain vs Baltimore doesn't affect his HOF career track 

FYI, Adams was out with a sprained ankle that was in a walking boot.

Not a hammy

 

[T0mShane]

19 minutes ago, Larz said:

Seahawks invest 2 first round picks to upgrade at safety

Jets fans think the guy the Seahawks gave away to clear cap space is better than Adam's because tweets 

Lol

Larz, would you trade the two ones and McDougald back to Seattle for Adams right now?

[sourceworx]

21 hours ago, T0mShane said:

You have to know how bit works.

”He’s not a safety, he’s a linebacker!”

You: OK, but he has marginal production for a linebacker.

”He’s actually a safety!”

You: OK, but his production is still eh for a safety.

”The Jets stink!”

According to bit, Vernon Gholston still needs a few more years to develop. And once he does, watch out.

[Jetsfan80]

Jets fans will turn on him soon enough

Just like you turned on Revis, yes.

[playtowinthegame]

51 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Larz, would you trade the two ones and McDougald back to Seattle for Adams right now?

Larz be like

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Larz, would you trade the two ones and McDougald back to Seattle for Adams right now?

Don't forget the 3rd rounder, too.