Popular Post maury77 Posted January 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/6/2021 at 9:49 AM, freestater said: Here, let me do the heavy lifting for you, since you seem so...incapable. Yeah. I'm bi. Never mentioned it before on this board because I learned a long time ago not to mention sh*t you don't have a sense of humor about on a football message board. And I have zero sense of humor about my sexuality nor the bigots in this world that try to make something out of it. In fact, the only way I've ever outed myself before this has been face to face, because for some reason when ppl are right in front of me, they lose the balls to call me a queer or a faggot or whatever. Unfortunately, through the internet, you can't get your hands on a foul mouthed bigot for spewing their crap at you. So, here's the ******* notice right now: I have zero sense of humor about it. Any toxic homophobic bullsh*t levied at me, I'm going to report immediately. And I'm pretty sure that @Maxman isn't going to tolerate anybody harassing or trolling me about it. Save your bigoted sh*t for somebody else. I made it through the 80s and the 90s getting into fights on the regular over this sh*t and I'm not about to hear the same bullsh*t 30 years later from another ridiculous twat who never grew the **** up. So go ahead a$$hole, yuk it up. I'd do it to yourself though, because you ******* spew it at me, ill make sure you're deleted from this board and then I can get back to talking football with old friends. Without bigots around to ruin it. People giving you crap for that shouldn't be here, it's no different than messing with people over their religion or race. They can always open a football board on Parler. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 No way Joe Douglas takes this kid at 2 and has a Danny Dimes moment. If we move back and kid floats with us? Sure maybe. But at 2? No way in hell. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, maury77 said: The group think is amazing. The new one is that Wilson is perfect for the Shanahan system. Wilson plays almost exclusively out of the shotgun and the 49ers play under center more than almost any other team in the league. If there is a QB that is a fit for the system, its Trey Lance. Wilson played from under center more than Lawrence and Fields. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/6/2021 at 2:52 PM, UnknownJetFan said: Wonder how Wilson would have played after the taking hit Fields against Clemson?. Not sure his frame would have held up. Not well, but I also don't think he would have made that spin move in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, The Crusher said: No way Joe Douglas takes this kid at 2 and has a Danny Dimes moment. If we move back abs kid floats fine with us? Sure maybe. But at 2? No way in hell. Except Danny Dimes was projected mid to late 1st pick. Wilson and Fields are projected top 2-10 guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Greensleeves said: Not well, but I also don't think he would have made that spin move in the first place. Actually, Wilson takes a lot of dumb hits it’s an area of concern with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, kdels62 said: Except Danny Dimes was projected mid to late 1st pick. Wilson and Fields are projected top 2-10 guys. Doesn’t mean he belongs there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Doesn’t mean he belongs there. It means that’s where he’s being evaluated and placed by consensus. Comparing it to Gettleman’s bad decision making is inaccurate as an example. Wilson and Fields might suck, but nobody will bat an eyelash if they’re the pick at 2 (precombine and workouts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, kdels62 said: As opposed to the defenses Trevor Lawrence plays against? In games where talent is basically equal Wilson was the reason BYU was dominant. It’s a relative. Like clearly Trevor Lawrence is so good he turns the balance of talent against Notre Dame in favor of Clemson. It is relative, I made the point because you were defending Wilson by saying he threw to sh!t receivers. Well, Wilson also played against sh!t defenses, so it is all a wash. You can't argue that he plays with less talented receivers without acknowledging that he also plays against less talented defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Wilson played from under center more than Lawrence and Fields. I'm at work, I'll be back later to deal with this fallacy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, kdels62 said: It means that’s where he’s being evaluated and placed by consensus. Comparing it to Gettleman’s bad decision making is inaccurate as an example. Wilson and Fields might suck, but nobody will bat an eyelash if there the pick at 2 (precombine and workouts). I see your point and I don’t disagree. I guess it’s the competition they faced that caused me to draw the comparison and I believe that will come up if we took him at 2 and he is lackluster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, maury77 said: I'm at work, I'll be back later to deal with this fallacy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxsta Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: No way Joe Douglas takes this kid at 2 and has a Danny Dimes moment. If we move back and kid floats with us? Sure maybe. But at 2? No way in hell. But what if he is Saleh's guy? Could've been part of his interview pitch to JD that he feels he can take this kid and Quinnen all the way to the top. If thats the case then in Saleh I trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, juxsta said: But what if he is Saleh's guy? Could've been part of his interview pitch to JD that he feels he can take this kid and Quinnen all the way to the top. If thats the case then in Saleh I trust. I doubt very much is Saleh or any coach knows enough about these college kids to make a statement like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxsta Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: I doubt very much is Saleh or any coach knows enough about these college kids to make a statement like that. Urban Meyer says hi. Bet he's riding the Lawrence train all the way to Jacksonville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, juxsta said: But what if he is Saleh's guy? Could've been part of his interview pitch to JD that he feels he can take this kid and Quinnen all the way to the top. If thats the case then in Saleh I trust. Insha'Allah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, juxsta said: Urban Meyer says hi. Bet he's riding the Lawrence train all the way to Jacksonville. They are picking #1 anyone picking #1 is taking lawrence. Saleh has been kind of busy to be knowing these guys enough to say he loves wilson and wants wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 This thread is making me hate everything and everyone more than usual. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: I reference PFF often, but they aren't gospel. They put out some ridiculous stat that Wilson had only 3 interceptable passes all season, I counted more than 3 in just the Houston game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: No way Joe Douglas takes this kid at 2 and has a Danny Dimes moment. If we move back and kid floats with us? Sure maybe. But at 2? No way in hell. So, he’s good enough to to take at 8 (or so) but not at 2? Don’t mean to be argumentative but that is just flawed logic. We’re not talking about A T or WR... If you’re taking a QB in the first round it’s to be your FQB. if you don’t think the guy is worthy of being taken at 2 you sure as sh— shouldn’t be taking him at 8 either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/6/2021 at 9:49 AM, freestater said: Here, let me do the heavy lifting for you, since you seem so...incapable. Yeah. I'm bi. Never mentioned it before on this board because I learned a long time ago not to mention sh*t you don't have a sense of humor about on a football message board. And I have zero sense of humor about my sexuality nor the bigots in this world that try to make something out of it. In fact, the only way I've ever outed myself before this has been face to face, because for some reason when ppl are right in front of me, they lose the balls to call me a queer or a faggot or whatever. Unfortunately, through the internet, you can't get your hands on a foul mouthed bigot for spewing their crap at you. So, here's the ******* notice right now: I have zero sense of humor about it. Any toxic homophobic bullsh*t levied at me, I'm going to report immediately. And I'm pretty sure that @Maxman isn't going to tolerate anybody harassing or trolling me about it. Save your bigoted sh*t for somebody else. I made it through the 80s and the 90s getting into fights on the regular over this sh*t and I'm not about to hear the same bullsh*t 30 years later from another ridiculous twat who never grew the **** up. So go ahead a$$hole, yuk it up. I'd do it to yourself though, because you ******* spew it at me, ill make sure you're deleted from this board and then I can get back to talking football with old friends. Without bigots around to ruin it. Hey I missed this the other day, sorry I just saw that I was tagged in this. First of all you absolutely don't have to, nobody should have to, answer to anything or explain personal stuff here. But more importantly I am proud of you. If anyone wants to be ignorant I can't stop them. But I will stop them from doing it here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, maury77 said: I reference PFF often, but they aren't gospel. They put out some ridiculous stat that Wilson had only 3 interceptable passes all season, I counted more than 3 in just the Houston game. They claim 4 and I think they’re wrong. You had 3 against Houston, I had 1 in that game. Off the top of my head there were at least 2 against Boise. I doubt he only had 1 more in 8 more games Point is even if their charting isn’t perfect I doubt it’s so far off. Wilson definitely did it more than Lawrence, Fields is trickier I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: So, he’s good enough to to take at 8 (or so) but not at 2? Don’t mean to be argumentative but that is just flawed logic. We’re not talking about A T or WR... If you’re taking a QB in the first round it’s to be your FQB. if you don’t think the guy is worthy of being taken at 2 you sure as sh— shouldn’t be taking him at 8 either. I’m not saying he’s good enough to take at any slot. I just feel that if we did move back got some value and he was there then it might big might make more sense than taking him at two. I’m also not denying it’s false logic , I see your point but most of the time I go with my gut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Zack Wilson looks like he belongs in N'Sync.....PASS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, juxsta said: But what if he is Saleh's guy? Could've been part of his interview pitch to JD that he feels he can take this kid and Quinnen all the way to the top. If thats the case then in Saleh I trust. the Biggest little word ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, kdels62 said: Actually, Wilson takes a lot of dumb hits it’s an area of concern with him. Yeah but does he attempt to become a runner as much as Fields ? I legitimately asking .. I have only seen them both play twice. It is really my biggest thing .. I have never liked running QBs .. back to Vick. Edited January 15, 2021 by Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Yeah but does he attempt to become a runner as much as Fields ? I legitimately asking .. I have only seen them both play twice. It is really my biggest thing .. I have never liked running QBs .. back to Vick. He doesn’t, he ran about 70 times last season but it is was a lot of designed runs. He probably runs less than Trevor Lawrence too. Wilson will run though and sometimes he will slide and sometimes he will lower his helmet and other times he will hurdle and other time he’ll dive at people. He’s not always protecting his body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Lurker89 said: This thread is making me hate everything and everyone more than usual. You read the whole thread? Selfpwn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, pointman said: You read the whole thread? Selfpwn. Who reads the whole thread.... Don't make me your straw man ... I won't have it. Now if you want to make me your straw lady and take me somewhere nice, treat me well, maybe we'll get somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: Who reads the whole thread.... Don't make me your straw man ... I won't have it. Now if you want to make me your straw lady and take me somewhere nice, treat me well, maybe we'll get somewhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, kdels62 said: More plz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, undertow said: Zack Wilson looks like he belongs in N'Sync.....PASS! You will hate that look even more as he is trouncing us like Brady. Edited January 15, 2021 by Dunnie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dunnie said: You will hate that look even more as he is trouncing us like Brady. I want my QB to look like James Hetfield could care less about wins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I want my QB to look like James Hetfield could care less about wins.My QB could.be quasimodo for all I care as long as he wins.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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