Claymation Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Cliff Notes: Wilson throws for 3998 yards. Moore is the Jets leading receiver AVT is the highest rated rookie lineman 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Legend Killa7 Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 3998? really?? couldn't just give him two more, huh? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Getting nervous with all the PFF love this year. They’ve been trashing us for a while. I guess the good news is they were right to call us trash all those years. They were right to call Gase the worse coaching hire ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 Why are the members of Mumford and Sons talking about the Jets? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Getting nervous with all the PFF love this year. They’ve been trashing us for a while. I guess the good news is they were right to call us trash all those years. They were right to call Gase the worse coaching hire ever. I guess you missed this yesterday -- should calm your nerves a bit.. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.GANGGREEN28 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Our whole roster top to bottom is a complete wildcard, more reason for optimism than pessimism.. should be a lot of fun. Either way though it doesn't matter if Wilson throws for 5000 or AVT becomes an all pro, it only matters that we go over .500, so SAR is happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lith said: I guess you missed this yesterday -- should calm your nerves a bit.. That's from PFF Linsey. PFF has the DL as a top 10, and they believe they acquisition of Moses puts OL as an average group. Their WR group is average with a rookie QB. They are still a bottom third roster but they are definitely better than the Eagles and Jacksonville. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, MR.GANGGREEN28 said: Our whole roster top to bottom is a complete wildcard, more reason for optimism than pessimism.. should be a lot of fun. Either way though it doesn't matter if Wilson throws for 5000 or AVT becomes an all pro, it only matters that we go over .500, so SAR is happy. who cares if sar 1 is happy? i want to see this team look good, win or lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 19 hours ago, GreenFish said: Getting nervous with all the PFF love this year. They’ve been trashing us for a while. I guess the good news is they were right to call us trash all those years. They were right to call Gase the worse coaching hire ever. Also genuinely believe they just liked our last two drafts and the Saleh hiring. PFF is meh, but I enjoy these two, especially around draft time. FWIW, at another point in the episode from which this was clipped, those two were arguing that if we signed Moses both believe Wilson would throw for more yards than Lawrence. At least the positivity is cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 PFF is what it is. Entertainment wrapped in a thin veneer of data. But there is some interesting stuff buried in their article: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-roster-rankings-for-all-32-teams-for-2021-strengths-weaknesses-and-x-factors-for-every-teams-starting-lineup First of all, this is dumb, but they have Zach Wilson rated at a 95.4 (college grade obviously) which makes him the HIGHEST RATED QB in the league. Obviously not realistic...but it suggests they do like him. A lot. Trevor had a 91.1 by comparison. Elijah Moore checked in with a 91.2, higher than Chase and Waddle. Pretty good for the 3rd worst team in the league. Which brings us to the next point. They ranked 12 starters on O and D and I assume they just averaged them out, not accounting for positional value. They didn't mention it, and if they did, Wilson's 95.4 would have skewed the Jets higher just by itself. So I averaged out all 24 players for NYJ (30) and NYG (19). The Giants had Shane Lemieux with a 32.2(!) and Tae Crowder with a 36.4. The Jets' lowest grade was a 49.1 for Blake Cashman. Something didn't seem right. Guess what I found? The Jets had an average score of 70.59 and the Giants had an average score of 67.83 So what did we learn? PFF pretends to be good at quant, but ultimately they are very, very flawed. I'm not blaming this on any bias...just a really lousy idea of how math really works. Nice try guys. Better luck next time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 We will finish 10-7 and get the 7th playoff spot. Book it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupe Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 This video is so lame. It looks and sounds like they don’t even care. Carter may have more receiving yards than anyone they spoke of and he’s not even mentioned. Odds are he’ll be a bigger factor than any single receiver especially with a rookie QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 13 hours ago, MR.GANGGREEN28 said: Our whole roster top to bottom is a complete wildcard, more reason for optimism than pessimism.. should be a lot of fun. Either way though it doesn't matter if Wilson throws for 5000 or AVT becomes an all pro, it only matters that we go over .500, so SAR is happy. I could care less if we hit .500 - What counts is how we play. Are we competitive, exciting, progressing, improving. Are we making teams sweat saying ‘damn these are not the 2020 Jets we playing’. Gase was 7-9 in his 1st year with the Jets and I could see they were a really really bad football team. That record was all smoke and mirrors. I want to see an explosive offense, a go get em defense with an improved secondary and some moxie from Zachary, Carter, AVT, Moore and Mims. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Maynard13 said: I could care less if we hit .500 - What counts is how we play. Are we competitive, exciting, progressing, improving. Are we making teams sweat saying ‘damn these are not the 2020 Jets we playing’. Gase was 7-9 in his 1st year with the Jets and I could see they were a really really bad football team. That record was all smoke and mirrors. I want to see an explosive offense, a go get em defense with an improved secondary and some moxie from Zachary, Carter, AVT, Moore and Mims. Summed up: please don’t be a boring team to watch! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 18 hours ago, Lith said: I guess you missed this yesterday -- should calm your nerves a bit.. Hold on! Hold on! Isn’t there another thread where Jets are the 3rd most improved team, also by PFF? This “rank teams who haven’t played a down yet” is all very confusing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 hours ago, jgb said: Summed up: please don’t be a boring team to watch! Edit: please don’t be a team that sucks at every phase of football. And put out a contract on Frank Gore I never want to see this guy again in a football uniform. He just never knows when to quit. And you know he’ll wind up somewhere. Probably in the Lingerie Football League. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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