This explains A LOT why Mac Jones only passed the ball only 3 times vs Bills

[DoomProphet]

CBS Sportsline in my opinion did some incredible investigatory sports journalism finding this tweet from Mac Jones in 2015 saying in a tweet "He's never seen snow in his life". Bellichick doesn't miss anything and he probably knew about this and knew the limitations of his arm and didn't allow him to pass the ball in 55 mph wind gusts. Mac Jones being from Florida and playing with Alabama is not used to crazy northeast weather (he's going to find out when the Pats play in the playoffs).

It's sickening to say this but this is yet another reason why Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time and why the Pats are who they are and why the Jets are not. Since when have the Jets ever put their QBs in the best situation to succeed, it's usually the opposite.

[Gastineau Lives]

Funny place to get drafted to. Is there an NFL franchise in Tahiti?

[DoomProphet]

1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Funny place to get drafted to. Is there an NFL franchise in Tahiti?

Very true.

[Hael]

1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Funny place to get drafted to. Is there an NFL franchise in Tahiti?

It is, and as good as he's been in warm weather, the NFL in cold weather is a completely different league.  It wouldn't surprise me if he struggles there.  For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if our guy struggled as well.  Playing in Utah is very different than playing in Buffalo.

[DoomProphet]

2 minutes ago, Hael said:

It is, and as good as he's been in warm weather, the NFL in cold weather is a completely different league.  It wouldn't surprise me if he struggles there.  For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if our guy struggled as well.  Playing in Utah is very different than playing in Buffalo.

Zach has a cannon and his throws can cut through wind and cold weather of December & January in the northeast. He's an exception in this case.

[Gastineau Lives]

1 hour ago, Hael said:

It is, and as good as he's been in warm weather, the NFL in cold weather is a completely different league.  It wouldn't surprise me if he struggles there.  For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if our guy struggled as well.  Playing in Utah is very different than playing in Buffalo.

5 day says that its gonna be warmer in Buffalo than Provo

[heymangold]

My god, another pats post.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, DoomProphet said:

Zach has a cannon and his throws can cut through wind and cold weather of December & January in the northeast. He's an exception in this case.

Like Josh Allen who has played in cold weather since college and has maybe the strongest arm in the league?

Game	CMP%	YDS	TD	INT	Rating
7 Dec vs Patriots	50.0	145	1	0	75.0

 

No one can "cut through" 55mph 20F winds.

 

[undertow]

People throw around the word journalism very loosely these days.

[Barry McCockinner]

Isn't that tweet from 2015?

[DoomProphet]

9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Isn't that tweet from 2015?

Yes it is.

[Smashmouth]

2 hours ago, DoomProphet said:

Zach has a cannon and his throws can cut through wind and cold weather of December & January in the northeast. He's an exception in this case.

Uncle Nicco also says Zach can throw the ball over the Mountains as his tight spiral cuts thru the wind rain and ice storms even the occasional tornado can't stop Zach

[Smashmouth]

32 minutes ago, jgb said:

Like Josh Allen who has played in cold weather since college and has maybe the strongest arm in the league?

Game	CMP%	YDS	TD	INT	Rating
7 Dec vs Patriots	50.0	145	1	0	75.0

 

No one can "cut through" 55mph 20F winds.

 

yeah but hes not Zach ...right ?

[Smashmouth]

34 minutes ago, heymangold said:

My god, another pats post.

Have no fear I'm a currently converted Pats fan I can keep this thread alive for weeks if I so choose

[jgb]

38 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Isn't that tweet from 2015?

Yes but he has never played a cold weather game since 

[jgb]

38 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

Uncle Nicco also says Zach can throw the ball over the Mountains as his tight spiral cuts thru the wind rain and ice storms even the occasional tornado can't stop Zach

Nico at this moment 

[Jetsfan80]

26 minutes ago, jgb said:

Yes but he has never played a cold weather game since 

And how was his pace?

[Beerfish]

McDermott was right in his comments that game was not about genius belli throwing 3 times. 

Buffalo flat out blew that game.

[DoomProphet]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

McDermott was right in his comments that game was not about genius belli throwing 3 times. 

Buffalo flat out blew that game.

Honestly, the Bills run D is almost as bad as the Jets. ALMOST. They are going to get exposed in the playoffs. They were exposed vs Colts and Jonathon Taylor and they were exposed vs Pats.

[jgb]

7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And how was his pace?

Sexy with a chance of triggering

[Jet Nut]

11 hours ago, Hael said:

It is, and as good as he's been in warm weather, the NFL in cold weather is a completely different league.  It wouldn't surprise me if he struggles there.  For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if our guy struggled as well.  Playing in Utah is very different than playing in Buffalo.

You've never been to Utah then.

[Jet Nut]

12 hours ago, DoomProphet said:

It's sickening to say this but this is yet another reason why Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time and why the Pats are who they are and why the Jets are not.

Yes, drafting a QB to play in NE, Buffalo and NY who cant throw in the cold and wind is a brilliant move no one else would have thought of until Mac won a game that was handed to them

Pure genius

[Biggs]

8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Yes, drafting a QB to play in NE, Buffalo and NY who cant throw in the cold and wind is a brilliant move no one else would have thought of until Mac won a game that was handed to them

Pure genius

Take a look at the Pats offseason moves.  They built the team to play this way.  While the rest of the league is putting smerfs at LB, Safety and CB to stop the passing game the Pats have built a team to knock the snot out of teams the old fashioned way.  

[Jet Nut]

1 minute ago, Biggs said:

Take a look at the Pats offseason moves.  They built the team to play this way.  While the rest of the league is putting smerfs at LB, Safety and CB to stop the passing game the Pats have built a team to knock the snot out of teams the old fashioned way.  

They always have had bigger LBs because Bill deploys a 3-4.  

[Biggs]

7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

They always have had bigger LBs because Bill deploys a 3-4.  

Yes he's smarter than Saleh.  He's D is much more effective without relying on multiple top 10 picks on the D line.  He's also got a huge OL along with big effective TE's to push defenses around that are set up to stop the NFL passing game.  

[Jet Nut]

20 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Yes he's smarter than Saleh.  He's D is much more effective without relying on multiple top 10 picks on the D line.  He's also got a huge OL along with big effective TE's to push defenses around that are set up to stop the NFL passing game.  

There have been better 4-3 defenses than the Pats 3-4.  Both go in and out of style.  

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

There have been better 4-3 defenses than the Pats 3-4.  Both go in and out of style.  

The 3/4 is much more flexible at dealing with complex offenses.  There's a reason most of the consistently good teams play it.  

[jgb]

59 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You've never been to Utah then.

Provo gets mighty frigid

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, Biggs said:

The 3/4 is much more flexible at dealing with complex offenses.  There's a reason most of the consistently good teams play it.  

Most teams have run the 4-3.  If you have the personnel for either you can be as effective out of each scheme.  

[Jet Nut]

Just now, jgb said:

Provo gets mighty frigid

I worked for a company based in Provo and used to fly out to Utah a lot.  Cold as can be, often in the teens.  Beautiful views, cold assed weather and crazy assed people

[Long Island Leprechaun]

13 hours ago, DoomProphet said:

CBS Sportsline in my opinion did some incredible investigatory sports journalism finding this tweet from Mac Jones in 2015 saying in a tweet "He's never seen snow in his life". Bellichick doesn't miss anything and he probably knew about this and knew the limitations of his arm and didn't allow him to pass the ball in 55 mph wind gusts. Mac Jones being from Florida and playing with Alabama is not used to crazy northeast weather (he's going to find out when the Pats play in the playoffs).

It's sickening to say this but this is yet another reason why Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time and why the Pats are who they are and why the Jets are not. Since when have the Jets ever put their QBs in the best situation to succeed, it's usually the opposite.

So Belli is brilliant for drafting a quarterback who can't play in New England weather, and essentially not using him in the biggest game of the season? Sure, whatever you say.

[jgb]

25 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

So Belli is brilliant for drafting a quarterback who can't play in New England weather, and essentially not using him in the biggest game of the season? Sure, whatever you say.

What would you have done in Belichick's position? Jags, Jets, Niners weren't going to trade down so his only option was to try to leapfrog Chicago and trade up for Fields. Or perhaps you would've kept Cam?

[More Cowbell]

13 hours ago, DoomProphet said:

CBS Sportsline in my opinion did some incredible investigatory sports journalism finding this tweet from Mac Jones in 2015 saying in a tweet "He's never seen snow in his life". Bellichick doesn't miss anything and he probably knew about this and knew the limitations of his arm and didn't allow him to pass the ball in 55 mph wind gusts. Mac Jones being from Florida and playing with Alabama is not used to crazy northeast weather (he's going to find out when the Pats play in the playoffs).

It's sickening to say this but this is yet another reason why Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time and why the Pats are who they are and why the Jets are not. Since when have the Jets ever put their QBs in the best situation to succeed, it's usually the opposite.

If this is why BB didn’t  let him throw, because he has never seen snow, drafting him to a team in the Northeast with an open air stadium  was not exactly a stroke of genius. 

Maybe you and @BornJetsFan1983 who is trying to make a case that the Jets should dump a top 5 return specialist can start a new message board. The IQ here would jump substantially. 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

52 minutes ago, jgb said:

What would you have done in Belichick's position? Jags, Jets, Niners weren't going to trade down so his only option was to try to leapfrog Chicago and trade up for Fields. Or perhaps you would've kept Cam?

Minshew. Or better yet, Mitch. Because Belli is a genius.

[Biggs]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

Most teams have run the 4-3.  If you have the personnel for either you can be as effective out of each scheme.  

The good defensive teams run 3/4's.  Teams don't have the personal for a good 4/3.  DL are rotational players.