nycdan Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I've seen completely unsubstantiated (obviously) rumors of the Steelers loving Malik Willis and/or Pickett and eyeing a trade up with our #10 pick being an interesting option as it gets them ahead of WAS at #11. The deals I've seen have varied, but let's take one of them. NYJ trade #10 to PIT for #20, #52, #84 Now with no 4th round pick, I absolutely do not believe the Steelers would trade their top 3 picks. So I would modify it to something more possible: NYJ trade #10 PIT trades #20, #52, 2023 2nd round pick. Same value, but more palatable for PIT. So would we do this? At #10 we are probably eyeing the WR of our choice, Wilson or London I suppose. Alternatively, depending on what we do at #4, we could go Edge with Karlaftis, Ojabo, or Johnson. At #20 we can still land a top WR most likely, London or Burks I'd suppose. Johnson might still be available at Edge. Or we could go OT with Penning or LB with Lloyd if he falls. Definitely some of the same options we might like at #10 but would feel like a slight overdraft there. That 2nd round pick at #52 opens up some of the names we like in the early 2nd round that could fall. That 2nd TE. or maybe one of the first RBs to come off the board. And extra 2nd next year is always a nice bonus in what will hopefully be a stronger draft. It's not something I would like to see them do before the draft (unless the offer was better), but it's something that I could see them going with at that pick depending on how the board plays out and how the QBs' stocks move in the next 10 weeks or so. Lots of trade scenarios to consider during the silly season, but this one feels like it has an actual chance of being possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heymangold Posted February 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2022 If I’m leaving the top 10, I want a 1st next year. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 for 20 and their 2023 #1. We have enough 2022 picks. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I don't think I'd make that trade. They are coming up for a QB and we have to fall to 20, I want a 2023 first. If the Steelers want to see Haskins then I think they bring in Mariota and won't trade up. If they don't like Haskins then I could see them wanting to come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I was told there would be no math on this test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 hours ago, heymangold said: If I’m leaving the top 10, I want a 1st next year. Especially if the team we trade with will start the rookie QB next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Ideally I want to trade down #4 for a 1st next year. That pick is a black hole since we don’t need OL. Trade 4 to the Steelers for 20 52 a 1st next year and Devin Bush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Definitely, ideally a pick swap and their 23 first rounder. both picks this year seem to be sort of in no mans land. if someone wanted to trade for #4 I'd do that too but #10 seems much more in the area the qbs will start to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 hours ago, heymangold said: If I’m leaving the top 10, I want a 1st next year. Yup. Last year, the Bears moved up from 20 to 11 to select Fields. They gave up their 2022 1. If we are going back to 20, we need another 1 in return. For reference, full details on the Bears - Giants traded last year: Bears sent #20, #164 (5th round), 2022 #1 and 2022 #4 to Giants for #11. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Lith said: Yup. Last year, the Bears moved up from 20 to 11 to select Fields. They gave up their 2022 1. If we are going back to 20, we need another 1 in return. For reference, full details on the Bears - Giants traded last year: Bears sent #20, #164 (5th round), 2022 #1 and 2022 #4 to Giants for #11. I could see #20 + 2023 1st as well. You are swapping this year's 2nd and next year's 2nd for next year's 1st. Value-wise that's not too far off although the two 2nds might be technically worth a little more. The Bears-Giants trade covers that difference and is an almost perfect comp so good call on that. Imagine having two 1st round picks three years in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, nycdan said: I could see #20 + 2023 1st as well. You are swapping this year's 2nd and next year's 2nd for next year's 1st. Value-wise that's not too far off although the two 2nds might be technically worth a little more. The Bears-Giants trade covers that difference and is an almost perfect comp so good call on that. Imagine having two 1st round picks three years in a row. Would be great, as long as we nail the picks. Although I am not counting on it. Every year we have the same discussions, how we are in the perfect spot to trade back. And yet, it has been 25 years since we traded back in the first -- we traded out of the first once (Doug Jolley), but have not traded back since 1997. I am going into this draft expecting that we will pick and 4 and 10, and be pleasantly surprised if the opportunity presents itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I hope Denver falls in love with a QB and wants to trade 9 for 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: I hope Denver falls in love with a QB and wants to trade 9 for 4. Kenny Pickett is the next Justin Herbert. Just saying... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Jetscode1 said: Kenny Pickett is the next Justin Herbert. Just saying... Combo between Herbert and Burrow. Read it right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I’d be very surprised if the Steelers moved up for a qb let alone give away future picks. Their longtime GM is stepping down after the draft. Do you really think they’re going to saddle the new guy (who hasn’t been hired yet) with a qb that isn’t their choice and give him less picks to work with to boot? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I’d be very surprised if the Steelers moved up for a qb let alone give away future picks. Their longtime GM is stepping down after the draft. Do you really think they’re going to saddle the new guy (who hasn’t been hired yet) with a qb that isn’t their choice and give him less picks to work with to boot? Good points. In addition, the Steelers usually stick and pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, section314 said: Good points. In addition, the Steelers usually stick and pick. Ironically, in 2019 they traded from #20 to #10 (with DEN) to pick Devin Bush. I had forgotten about that trade when I originally posted. The traded a 2019 2nd and 2020 3rd to make the swap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, nycdan said: Ironically, in 2019 they traded from #20 to #10 (with DEN) to pick Devin Bush. I had forgotten about that trade when I originally posted. The traded a 2019 2nd and 2020 3rd to make the swap. That was definitely an outlier for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 10:57 PM, Jimmy 2 Times said: 10 for 20 and their 2023 #1. We have enough 2022 picks. Why not take the 2022 2nd? 5 of the top 52 picks? The coaching staff just had a week of scouting these guy. Highly unlikely (better not) Jets will be coaching ‘23 Sr bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 How many rookies do you want on a already very young team? 2022 is considered a weak class. I’d rather have the 2023 premium pick for two reasons: 1. potentially deeper and better class and more importantly: 2. Next year we will have a much better understanding on where our exact weaknesses are. After giving all of the developmental players another year in the system they will have a better idea on who can transition into a linebacker and who can’t. This will allow JD to draft for need and fill out last holes with premium picks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 1:58 PM, Jimmy 2 Times said: How many rookies do you want on a already very young team? 2022 is considered a weak class. I’d rather have the 2023 premium pick for two reasons: 1. potentially deeper and better class and more importantly: 2. Next year we will have a much better understanding on where our exact weaknesses are. After giving all of the developmental players another year in the system they will have a better idea on who can transition into a linebacker and who can’t. This will allow JD to draft for need and fill out last holes with premium picks. Because JD gutted this team and it is way behind on depth. The projected talent at the top of round 1 just isn't close to what we need. I would take as many picks as we can get in the top 75. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 1:58 PM, Jimmy 2 Times said: How many rookies do you want on a already very young team? 2022 is considered a weak class. I’d rather have the 2023 premium pick for two reasons: 1. potentially deeper and better class and more importantly: 2. Next year we will have a much better understanding on where our exact weaknesses are. After giving all of the developmental players another year in the system they will have a better idea on who can transition into a linebacker and who can’t. This will allow JD to draft for need and fill out last holes with premium picks. Two first round picks next year would give us ammo to move up and select either Bryce Young or CJ Stroud ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 How about #4 for TJ watt? Might sound crazy, but who knows. Sign me up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, BurntDice said: How about #4 for TJ watt? Might sound crazy, but who knows. Sign me up! Talk about smoking the good stuff. He's as untradeable as it gets in the NFL. Three 1st rounders wouldn't be enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, nycdan said: Talk about smoking the good stuff. He's as untradeable as it gets in the NFL. Three 1st rounders wouldn't be enough. Hey let’s throw in Mims too. They’ll get a great deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SR24 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 We’re passing on so much talent to drop down 10 spots, I’d want someone back who can help out this year. #10 for #20, a 23 2nd and Chase Claypool maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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