Colts Not Interested In Carr

[THE BARON]

1 hour ago, VJphillyfan said:

Why you think? Because they are both stupid?

Compulsive is more like it.

[the Claw]

2 hours ago, SickJetFan said:

no comment

Oofta. 

[greenwave81]

On 1/13/2023 at 10:03 AM, Stark said:

yup no one wants that bad contract. 

Bad contract??  What?  If you trade for him, you'd hope he comes on that contract that exists.

He was guaranteed like $65 million.  The Raiders already paid him $25 million .  He's guaranteed $35 million next year....after which, if he sucks or you want to change directions, his dead cap hit is like $ 5mill in 2024 to cut/release him.  That's a good evaluation contract IMO.

Problem is, Carr has a NTC...and if he accepts a trade to another team he may ask to have that contract renegotiated for more guarantees...or he can reject a trade and wait for the Raiders to release him outright and subject himself to NFL bidding for his services.

I'd love him here on his current deal...and I believe the Jets would too.

 

[Dunnie]

Our OL was actually way worse during the Sam years

Stalin was Worse than Hitler

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[SickJetFan]

16 hours ago, the Claw said:

Oofta. 

he is off my list

[varjet]

Carr is going to bet on himself, with inside information.

Teams will want to trade for him.  If Carr wants to help out the Raiders, he will cooperate with the trade.  He can decide to stick the trading team with his current contract, which guarantees him $35mm this year and like $5++mm next year (but if the trading team keeps him he costs over $40mm-it could be hard for the trading team to let him go if he plays half way decent).

Or Carr can say I am not approving unless I get a new deal.  If the trading team says no, the Raiders cut him, and then he negotiates a new deal from scratch.  Who knows where that ends up, but I predict 3 years guaranteed at about $35mm.  That is a better deal than his current contract, which is why I predict Carr does not approve a trade. 

[NYJCAP2]

On 1/15/2023 at 2:18 PM, More Cowbell said:

McDaniels might be gifting the Jets what they need at exactly the right time.

Would be poetic

[NYJCAP2]

15 minutes ago, varjet said:

Carr is going to bet on himself, with inside information.

Teams will want to trade for him.  If Carr wants to help out the Raiders, he will cooperate with the trade.  He can decide to stick the trading team with his current contract, which guarantees him $35mm this year and like $5++mm next year (but if the trading team keeps him he costs over $40mm-it could be hard for the trading team to let him go if he plays half way decent).

Or Carr can say I am not approving unless I get a new deal.  If the trading team says no, the Raiders cut him, and then he negotiates a new deal from scratch.  Who knows where that ends up, but I predict 3 years guaranteed at about $35mm.  That is a better deal than his current contract, which is why I predict Carr does not approve a trade. 

I keep hearing trade compensation regarding Carr…WHY?

In exactly a month Carr is guaranteed $40M more unless they cut him. If they cut him they are only out $5M.

He’s going to be a UFA. It’s a gift it’s happening is so early in the process.

[King P]

On 1/13/2023 at 9:42 AM, Joe W. Namath said:

Carr is awful.  Smart by the Colts.

I won't go as far as to say he's awful, but he's average at best. And he's a horrible leader.

The fact that Jets fans want Carr after how he acted with the Raiders considering we just experienced this dilemma with Wilson as hilarious

[greenwave81]

8 hours ago, varjet said:

Carr is going to bet on himself, with inside information.

Teams will want to trade for him.  If Carr wants to help out the Raiders, he will cooperate with the trade.  He can decide to stick the trading team with his current contract, which guarantees him $35mm this year and like $5++mm next year (but if the trading team keeps him he costs over $40mm-it could be hard for the trading team to let him go if he plays half way decent).

Or Carr can say I am not approving unless I get a new deal.  If the trading team says no, the Raiders cut him, and then he negotiates a new deal from scratch.  Who knows where that ends up, but I predict 3 years guaranteed at about $35mm.  That is a better deal than his current contract, which is why I predict Carr does not approve a trade. 

Wait a minute....

On his current deal he's guaranteed $40 million over the next two years....but he's gonna reject a trade to negotiate a new deal for 3 years guaranteed at $35 million?  I suppose you mean 3 yrs at $35 mill/yr or $105 million guaranteed?

For Carr, that would be too rich for my blood before he showed he can be successful HERE.  But that's just me.  And I'm not too sure he'd get that from anyone...but maybe lol.

[greenwave81]

7 hours ago, NYJCAP2 said:

I keep hearing trade compensation regarding Carr…WHY?

In exactly a month Carr is guaranteed $40M more unless they cut him. If they cut him they are only out $5M.

He’s going to be a UFA. It’s a gift it’s happening is so early in the process.

With Carr, that's the rub....a trading team would probably like him on a residual 2 yr/$40 million guaranteed deal.  BUT he has a NTC, and can refuse any trade which will lead him to being cut at which point he can renegotiate a new contract, in all likelihood for more guarantees than $40 million over 2 years.

Question then becomes how much IS he worth to the signing team?  What's everyones 'price point'?

[Mogglez]

I want him….but don’t think it’s gonna happen fellas.  I hope I’m wrong.

[chirorob]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

I want him….but don’t think it’s gonna happen fellas.  I hope I’m wrong.

Who are you hearing .

[Mogglez]

11 minutes ago, chirorob said:

Who are you hearing .

Very early, so take that for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

[Pac]

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take it for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

GQ Mike White...  No thanks. 

[chirorob]

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take it for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

Oh, that's horrible.

He is ALWAYS hurt.  And is mediocre when he's healthy.   And they just fired the OC that runs the offense he knows.

[T0mShane]

On 1/15/2023 at 7:33 PM, SickJetFan said:

no comment

 

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

Seriously want to buy the book.

[Mogglez]

7 minutes ago, Pac said:

GQ Mike White...  No thanks. 

 

6 minutes ago, chirorob said:

Oh, that's horrible.

He is ALWAYS hurt.  And is mediocre when he's healthy.   And they just fired the OC that runs the offense he knows.

Not disagreeing.  Just heard over the weekend to watch this more than Carr.

[Guilhermezmc]

12 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take that for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

What a amazing experience to be a Jets fan

[Cbucco19]

16 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take that for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

Well then we mine as well start scouting 2024 QBs and coaches lol .. Jimmy ain’t surviving lol 

[Cbucco19]

If jets sign jimmy they better hope Zach develops because the guy can’t stay healthy behind the best Ol .. imagine here lol 

[Mogglez]

15 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

What a amazing experience to be a Jets fan

 

13 minutes ago, Cbucco19 said:

Well then we mine as well start scouting 2024 QBs and coaches lol .. Jimmy ain’t surviving lol 

He is v hot tho

[Cbucco19]

4 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

He is v hot tho

U actually ruined my night lol The fanbase is going to implode if they sign jimmy g over carr and the other options 

[Cbucco19]

However I’m going to hold onto hope From Jake Asman source . He said the Same source that told him lafleur would be fired before it happened .. saying jets and carr have mutual interest 

[NYJCAP2]

9 hours ago, greenwave81 said:

With Carr, that's the rub....a trading team would probably like him on a residual 2 yr/$40 million guaranteed deal.  BUT he has a NTC, and can refuse any trade which will lead him to being cut at which point he can renegotiate a new contract, in all likelihood for more guarantees than $40 million over 2 years.

Question then becomes how much IS he worth to the signing team?  What's everyones 'price point'?

It’s a 3 year residual though, worth $110M. 
 

That’s a different commitment than 2/$40.

[SickJetFan]

10 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take that for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

yeah starting to think as vet option probably best option but they must draft a guy like Tune, McKee, Haener and try to hit on long shot if they do any of these guys.  Gets you to 2024 when things probably start over anyway.

but the only way JD/Saleh salvages this program they started with drafting Zach is taking a shot on Jordan Love and Love is actually good/good enough or even if there is another Jordan Love type out there.  This gets JD back on that program schedule he would have had with Zach..almost. and gets you a guy with potential upside again and have team grow around him for that year in year out relevance they were promising.  of course even if they went after Love they still need to draft one of Tune, McKee, Haener this season as well and have 4 QB in room until it is solved.

[Adoni Beast]

11 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take that for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

This always seemed to be the most realistic option, but given that their jobs are on the line I'm a little surprised that this seems to be option 1 for Douglas and Salem.

If he can stay healthy and we upgrade our Oline and Offensive coach staff - we're a contender.

If those things don't happen, new GM, new HC, new QB, new everything 2024.

If this is the route we're going I really hope we upgrade the backup QB spot as well. Nothing against Mike White but he's even more injury prone than Garoppolo.

Get Jimmy G and Jacoby Brissett (especially if we're hiring this Caley dude from Chowder Land) might as well pair him with QBs he / they are comfortable with, and red shirt Zack Wilson for 2023.

[VJphillyfan]

18 hours ago, Cbucco19 said:

If jets sign jimmy they better hope Zach develops because the guy can’t stay healthy behind the best Ol .. imagine here lol 

Sign both Jimmy G and Mike White to one year deals.

[Barkus]

Salad knows Jimmy G well, he saw him firsthand lead his team to a Super Bowl.

[Barry McCockinner]

18 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Very early, so take that for what it’s worth, but this weekend I got the sense from texts that it would be more along the lines of this:

That being said, it’s not even a given 

Zach Wilson starting by week 8.

[VJphillyfan]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Zach Wilson starting by week 8.

Week 1.  Jimmy G is JD’s plan to ninja the bust back into #1 on the depth chart

[Adoni Beast]

18 hours ago, Pac said:

GQ Mike White...  No thanks. 

You mean Italian Brady

[Jet_Engine1]

On 1/14/2023 at 5:44 PM, Barry McCockinner said:

 

 

 

 

On 1/15/2023 at 8:31 AM, Jet_Engine1 said:

Carr would be the best Jets QB in History.  All of Jets history. Statistically better and more consistent over time than even JWN. 

 

#Facts.

 

On 1/13/2023 at 9:38 AM, THE BARON said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-one-qb-needy-team-not-interested-in-derek-carr-trade/ar-AA16hA8l?cvid=f33e0f1ea68a49e084da79719cf93a2f

"The Indianapolis Colts will not be trading for Carr, according to Zak Keefer of The Athletic.

That is not much of a surprise. The Colts have not found a long-term solution at quarterback since Andrew Luck retired in 2018. They have cycled through three veterans — Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan — the past three years and the results have gotten progressively worse each season"

This is good for us.  Give me Carr and Greg Olson.  One less obstacle in the way.

 

On 1/13/2023 at 10:34 AM, Fantasy Island said:

That’s what someone who has a Jets fans are the best would think.  Zach is the Jets fans are the best, Carr is the cure.

 

On 1/13/2023 at 11:33 AM, Dunnie said:

Disagree .. Lamar will RG 3 out and Carr is the better bet.

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On 1/13/2023 at 12:08 PM, bla bla bla said:

I want Carr, but I think it's fair to say good QBs don't generally HAVE to come from behind but it's a good trait to have none the less. I'd bet his poor defenses and near perfect health has played a factor in him leading this category.

 

On 1/13/2023 at 12:19 PM, Jetworks said:

Carr's problem is what it has always been; he's saddled with an awful defense. 

 

 

On 1/13/2023 at 1:05 PM, Mogglez said:

Bookmarking this.

 

On 1/13/2023 at 1:22 PM, VJphillyfan said:

Good. One less team competing with us for Carr

 

On 1/14/2023 at 11:40 AM, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said:

The way Jets fans look down on potential QB upgrades in such snobbish fashion after having the worst quarterback room in the league for 20-30 years is top notch. Carr instantly upgrades this team despite what stats are thrown around. The Jets defense doesn’t require a top 5 qb to win. 

 

Jets could have had a 33 year old solid Vet QB, NO Nate Hackett, and a bridge to the NEXT young QB a couple of years down the line. Unfortunately, Woody got dazzled with the big name guy that got hurt because he was 40 and past his prime and is now in a total downward spiral meltdown and getting hurt every game. 

 

And they called US fools... lol

[Barry McCockinner]

3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jets could have had a 33 year old solid Vet QB, NO Nate Hackett, and a bridge to the NEXT young QB a couple of years down the line. Unfortunately, Woody got dazzled with the big name guy that got hurt because he was 40 and past his prime and is now in a total downward spiral meltdown and getting hurt every game. 

 

And the called US fools... lol

I wanted either Carr or Rodgers but preferred Rodgers because of the higher ceiling.