batman10023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: You’re here advocating that Sauce and GW shouldn’t win ROY. Sorry I don’t think you like the Jets no matter how much of a “realist” you are folks like that tend to be generally unhappy. it's a game/hobby/distraction. if you can't be excited by Sauce and Wilson (and Hall) why even bother being a fan. there are a couple of folks like that on this board. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Bingo #13 - you'd be getting his LT so no issue 2024 - conditional 3rd, becomes a 2nd if he plays in 2024, becomes a 1st if you make the playoffs in 2024 I'd do this in a heartbeat. i doubt we have to offer that much. what is GB going to do, keep both Love and Rodgers? very expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Edit Edited January 24 by Untouchable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 hours ago, BurntDice said: Those years around 50 mil are pretty scary. High guarantees? He’ll be like 42 then. He also seems to have a idgaf attitude nowadays His contract would be an albatross on this organization. The more and more I think about it the less I want this to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, MyFavoriteMartin28 said: You wouldn't give up a 1st round pick for the potential of 3 years of Super Bowl runs? The more this gets kicked around, the more it makes sense. I was initially opposed to giving away two firsts - I’d give away one in a second, but I think I’ve come around to two at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, bitonti said: it's an OK pick. It was designed to hide how bad Zach was and for a little while he did that in the end teams don't use high picks on RBs because their careers are so short. JD got cute and the success was temporary before you get all worked up, remember he's not likely going to be 100 percent off that ACL until year 3. Unless he's Adrian Peterson, most guys aren't their same self until 2 years after knee reconstruction. it can be an ingredient to have a great back to win a SB (like Fournette) but most of the teams with the best RBs don't win the SB. and most teams winning a SB don't have rd 1 or rd 2 running backs on their roster that they drafted the good teams find these guys the Jets paid top dollar. And now he's hurt. that's what happens to RBs in the NFL they get hurt. the bet they made was that he wasn't going to get hurt. the bet didn't work out in that regard. i didn't and still don't mind the pick. I think if he doesn't get hurt we make the playoffs (if he continued playing like he was trending). agree regarding RB and first round picks (like the giants). also agree that most likely he's not going to be good next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, bitonti said: all of this neglects the second part of Peter King's tweet which said "would Rodgers even want to play in NY" fans breeze right by that one but it's a legit question. The division is a bear and this team, despite being better than they were, still isn't very good. They aren't 1 QB away from a SB they haven't made the playoffs in 12 years where does he go? TENN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: So we are going to trade two first round picks and take on a future cap killing contract (massive cap hit when our young stars want to be paid) for a 100% me first player that has never been accountable for one bad thing that happened in his career but laps up all the credit for anything good happening to him and the team. This is the part that is risky for me. His attitude is not ideal for an impressionable kid you are hoping to groom. People already have questions about Zach's personality so this move likely amplifies that. I still prefer Deker Carr but I think the case for Rodgers, if you miss on Carr, is compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, batman10023 said: where does he go? TENN? maybe vegas for a reunite with Adams maybe Indy Titans are a possibility but there are better ones... similar to the Jets in that sense TEN doesn't have a GM, NYJ doesn't have an OC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, batman10023 said: i doubt we have to offer that much. what is GB going to do, keep both Love and Rodgers? very expensive. If Rodgers stays then they trade Love. I don't think there is a situation Love and Rodgers are both there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, bitonti said: maybe vegas for a reunite with Adams maybe Indy Titans are a possibility but there are better ones... similar to the Jets in that sense TEN doesn't have a GM, NYJ doesn't have an OC Indy perhaps, forgot about that one. I don't see Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYJCAP2 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 36 minutes ago, bitonti said: maybe vegas for a reunite with Adams maybe Indy Titans are a possibility but there are better ones... similar to the Jets in that sense TEN doesn't have a GM, NYJ doesn't have an OC TENN hired Ran Carthon as GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, bitonti said: These numbers are insane If jd does make this move it will be a blatant tactic to save his job All that talk about building the team the right way goes out the window Yeah I don't even disagree, but at least we'll have someone who can throw a football to our own players for 2 years before we're terrible again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, NYJCAP2 said: His contract would be an albatross on this organization. The more and more I think about it the less I want this to happen. Personally I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum. Bring in a guy like Winston. He can be an average ish starter and will be a fraction of the cost plus no draft pick cost. This lets the rest of the team be able to continue to build by not hampering the cap/picks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Yeah I don't even disagree, but at least we'll have someone who can throw a football to our own players for 2 years before we're terrible again. In his interview today he stated he assumed his contract was going to have to change if he decides to play whether he was traded or not. That's interesting - not sure how much better it can look at this point even w/a restructure. Any thoughts on that? edit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, batman10023 said: i doubt we have to offer that much. what is GB going to do, keep both Love and Rodgers? very expensive. It's so weird how they traded up for Love despite Rodgers still having plenty left in the tank. They're not going to recoup any value for Love in the trade market. And they've overextended themselves financially with Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, BurntDice said: Personally I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum. Bring in a guy like Winston. He can be an average ish starter and will be a fraction of the cost plus no draft pick cost. This lets the rest of the team be able to continue to build by not hampering the cap/picks I’m OK with them spending on someone. The problem with Rodgers is his contract is very complex in his favor, and he is just unpredictable. The way I read it is, he could retire after 1 year and the Jets could be on the hook for like $20-30M in dead money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, batman10023 said: where does he go? TENN? Rodgers can’t wait to demand a trade to the Texans. If Woody wants Rodgers he can get him and it won’t cost multiple firsts and Rodgers is not turning down $110 million he is playing the next 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: In his interview today he stated he assumed his contract was going to have to change if he decides to play whether he was traded or not. That's interesting - not sure how much better it can look at this point even w/a restructure. Any thoughts on that? edit: Nope; no idea what he has in mind, whether he's talking about adjusting how much or over what timespan or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Nope; no idea what he has in mind, whether he's talking about adjusting how much or over what timespan or both.Signing bonus or something ? I dunno.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Signing bonus or something ? I dunno. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk He didn't specify what he means by any "adjustment" -- if he's just talking about the same pay but changing how it's structured, it's almost a distinction without a difference. What's actually different is if he's actually talking about a lower pay number, since these higher upcoming amounts were calculated as part of a 3-year extension after back-to-back MVP seasons (the first and cheapest of which is now out of the way, leaving the 2 higher-pay years to be absorbed by a new team, when he's coming off a decidedly non-MVP season). Whatever it is, it also means he's not being obstinate since that would necessarily eliminate a couple teams he's deemed worthy options. What this talk has made clear is he values postseason success not just his pay; otherwise he could sit back and keep collecting from the Packers. I think what helps the Jets' prospects of getting him isn't merely the obvious Wilson problem, but also that his Packers got whooped by the Jets who were starting a QB who barely game-managed that day & struggled so mightily against non-Packers opponents (and how badly the Jets' D roughed him up that game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 15 hours ago, NYJCAP2 said: His contract would be an albatross on this organization. The more and more I think about it the less I want this to happen. It’s amazing how teams like the bills, rams, cowboys, chiefs get to sign whoever they want meanwhile we have to cheap out at qb to stay only $40 million under the cap and continue to try to vindicate JD and the clueless fans who drank he and the media’s kool aid regarding Zach Wilson It’s this insane ineptitude which is why 13 years going and not even appearing in a playoff game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 59 minutes ago, VJphillyfan said: It’s amazing how teams like the bills, rams, cowboys, chiefs get to sign whoever they want meanwhile we have to cheap out at qb to stay only $40 million under the cap and continue to try to vindicate JD and the clueless fans who drank he and the media’s kool aid regarding Zach Wilson It’s this insane ineptitude which is why 13 years going and not even appearing in a playoff game Keep reading, you are not understanding the consequences his contract would have on this team if he retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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