### The Official Draft Day One Discussion Thread ###

[Beerfish]

5 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

Gotcha. Maybe do some homework, clown. I wanted an elite pass rusher. That’s what we got. I am happy. Game Wrecker. I trust Saleh over a wannabe insider. Seeya. 

What are your feelings on jermaine johnson?  The guy saleh begged douglas to trade up for last year?  Yes, that elite pass rusher.

McDonald is light, old and had 5 sacks last year.

McDonald will be just like JJ.  he wont be on the field enough to justify the resources used and resources by passed.

Douglas has become Tannenbuam when tanny went well out of his way to please the D centric head coach.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Maybe? Obviously, I hated the pick swap, but taking the EDGE guy is in line with Douglas going for premium positions in the first. I don’t think he opened up the mock draft simulator to find the next guy. 

I understand it from a positional value POV but dude is def undersized

What really kills me is JSN was on the board 

They had a chance to secure the #1 WR in the draft in B2B years

[Mogglez]

12 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

You have no idea who you are talking to. Good luck with your “career”

I’ve said this probably a hundred times, but I do not post information to make a career out of it, lmfao.  I already have a wonderful career, in another field I have a passion about, and I have zero interest in leaving that position to chase any sort of job in sports.

Your “Macho Man” Randy Savage threats on the internet mean absolutely nothing to me.

[BettyBoop]

9 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Yet the eagles have kept rolling along fantastically and JD has mostly been a dud here.

You’re an idiot

[undertow]

1 minute ago, JETS SB said:

The point was, we have very few “glaring” needs. We have a very good roster. We have needs at several positions including OL, LB, and S. We didn’t need a WR. Anyone who wanted one in the 1st round is just dumb. 

Yeah and my point is we already have 5 Ends 2 of which we drafted last year so reaching for one at 15 is kinda dumb also.

[Maynard13]

19 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Douglas letting buffalo get Kincaid was a massive massive mistake. You don't let Allen get his Kelce. You draft him for Rodgers 

There's like 10 Kincaid's in th is draft and we dont need a TE that high. 

[football guy]

Few scenarios tomorrow: 

1) draft their best “OT”: Mauch and Bergeron are the only ones worthy of going top 43. Both are considered tackles who could move inside to guard (in Mauch’s case even C). I think Mauch could be the pick; don’t think Tippmann falls to 43, who they could have rated higher, and I know they like Mauch. They would have to figure out if he can be a starting LT after getting their hands on him, but definitely a RT/G/C with tons of athleticism and nastiness. 

2) draft an interior OL/C. Tippmann is believed to be their top interior OL and naturally everyone knows about JMS. Avila has a lot of hype but think he’s going to be gone by 43. Don’t see the Torrence fit. It’s entirely possible some of these guys are gone before we pick.

3) take a TE. So much value there in Mayer, Musgrave, Washington, and LaPorta it may be hard to pass up. 

4) lean all into defense. I wouldn’t rule out a DL Keeanu Benton, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Keion White as all have been associated with us. Not great resource allocation nor would it be how the Jets drew it up, but as they’ve done the past 2 seasons I think disaster scenario would be to add a veteran OT in camp if they can’t find one in the draft (or if they draft a few guys that are too raw). My opinion: just go sign a veteran DT; there are plenty available.

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said:

I been away for so long. Its weird seeing you be glass half full. I hope you're right. I used to hate everything and everyone involved with this team with you. We got a chance! I pop in like once a year. I see it. I used to be in your gang. You were the Joker and we wanted to burn it all down. Thats when we couldn't see a SB ever

I still ride hard for Team Hater. If we drafted a safety or a guard, I’d be in my feelings. But a pass rusher? It’s like, ok, I can explain that expense.

[slimjasi]

22 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Douglas letting buffalo get Kincaid was a massive massive mistake. You don't let Allen get his Kelce. You draft him for Rodgers 

Kelce was drafted in the third round and is a generational TE 

the chances he is Kelce are probably less than 1%

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I understand it from a positional value POV but dude is def undersized

What really kills me is JSN was on the board 

They had a chance to secure the #1 WR in the draft in B2B years

I thought Jeremiah did a good foreshadowing of the WR problem with the Jets—the cupboard is pretty full right now. He even said that Rodgers likes Corey Davis. I definitely get the appeal of JSN, but I don’t think he made much sense for us unless we traded a few receivers first. IMO, if they do draft a guy, I’d prefer one of the big ball-winners that Rodgers likes throwing it to. Cedric Tillman, LaPorta, etc

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

22 minutes ago, David Harris said:

Saffold was a guard- is that where you think he’ll end up?

He can play both. Saffold played both 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

5 minutes ago, football guy said:

Few scenarios tomorrow: 

1) draft their best “OT”: Mauch and Bergeron are the only ones worthy of going top 43. Both are considered tackles who could move inside to guard (in Mauch’s case even C). I think Mauch could be the pick; don’t think Tippmann falls to 43, who they could have rated higher, and I know they like Mauch. They would have to figure out if he can be a starting LT after getting their hands on him, but definitely a RT/G/C with tons of athleticism and nastiness. 

2) draft an interior OL/C. Tippmann is believed to be their top interior OL and naturally everyone knows about JMS. Avila has a lot of hype but think he’s going to be gone by 43. Don’t see the Torrence fit. It’s entirely possible some of these guys are gone before we pick.

3) take a TE. So much value there in Mayer, Musgrave, Washington, and LaPorta it may be hard to pass up. 

4) lean all into defense. I wouldn’t rule out a DL Keeanu Benton, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Keion White as all have been associated with us. Not great resource allocation nor would it be how the Jets drew it up, but as they’ve done the past 2 seasons I think disaster scenario would be to add a veteran OT in camp if they can’t find one in the draft (or if they draft a few guys that are too raw). My opinion: just go sign a veteran DT; there are plenty available.

Tippman should be the pick as the long term solution at C

Wisconsin has a good track record of producing NFL ready OL

 JD better pray this is the year Becton finally manages to stay on the field

[JTJet]

My biggest concern is Aaron Rodgers seeing Fat Joe do what GB had been doing to him for years.

It has now been 13 years since a player was drafted in the 1st round to help Aaron Rodgers on offense. 

That's pretty amazing when you think about it..

[BettyBoop]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I still ride hard for Team Hater. If we drafted a safety or a guard, I’d be in my feelings. But a pass rusher? It’s like, ok, I can explain that expense.

I’d be in my feeiings??? Wtf does that mean???

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

9 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

Lol ok. There are several really good TEs in this class that Buffalo could have selected in various rounds. The Jets, nor anyone else, could have stopped Buffalo from taking a good TE prospect this year if that's what they had their mind set to.

Just glad we stopped you from taking breece last year ?

Breece hall is a true elite rb. Id still rather have Kincaid. Douglas should've taken him once the ots were gone 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

4 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Kelce was drafted in the third round and is a generational TE 

the chances he is Kelce are probably less than 1%

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I thought Jeremiah did a good foreshadowing of the WR problem with the Jets—the cupboard is pretty full right now. He even said that Rodgers likes Corey Davis. I definitely get the appeal of JSN, but I don’t think he made much sense for us unless we traded a few receivers first. IMO, if they do draft a guy, I’d prefer one of the big ball-winners that Rodgers likes throwing it to. Cedric Tillman, LaPorta, etc

The idea that Corey Davis might have prevented them from drafting JSN only makes me hate CD even more ?

[NYJetsVets91]

1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said:

@NYJetsVets91 the big winner. Drafted#63 in JetNation mock & goes #15 to Jets!

I traded up to get him at 63, couldn't believe he was falling that far.. that being said I think 15 is too high, but let's hope it pays off.

Also, took Witherspoon at #20. ?

[Sammybighead]

7 minutes ago, football guy said:

Few scenarios tomorrow: 

1) draft their best “OT”: Mauch and Bergeron are the only ones worthy of going top 43. Both are considered tackles who could move inside to guard (in Mauch’s case even C). I think Mauch could be the pick; don’t think Tippmann falls to 43, who they could have rated higher, and I know they like Mauch. They would have to figure out if he can be a starting LT after getting their hands on him, but definitely a RT/G/C with tons of athleticism and nastiness. 

2) draft an interior OL/C. Tippmann is believed to be their top interior OL and naturally everyone knows about JMS. Avila has a lot of hype but think he’s going to be gone by 43. Don’t see the Torrence fit. It’s entirely possible some of these guys are gone before we pick.

3) take a TE. So much value there in Mayer, Musgrave, Washington, and LaPorta it may be hard to pass up. 

4) lean all into defense. I wouldn’t rule out a DL Keeanu Benton, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Keion White as all have been associated with us. Not great resource allocation nor would it be how the Jets drew it up, but as they’ve done the past 2 seasons I think disaster scenario would be to add a veteran OT in camp if they can’t find one in the draft (or if they draft a few guys that are too raw). My opinion: just go sign a veteran DT; there are plenty available.

Think it's possible they bolster interior oline with the thought of using AVT as an emergency tackle again. Tippman, just, Avila, mauch could all be in play. Also wouldn't rule out a trade down if they can add another 3rd/4th

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Your lack of an actual response is . . . Telling 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

The idea that Corey Davis might have prevented them from drafting JSN only makes me hate CD even more ?

Yeah, I am nooot a Davis fan at all, but I thought it was noteworthy that Jeremiah went out of his way to talk about how full-up the Jets receiver room is, and the Davis/Rodgers tidbit.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

Your lack of an actual response is . . . Telling 

If the bills had a top ten pick I wouldve taken Kincaid. He's going to eat zone covg alive like Kelce. I drinking a shot of crown now and celebrating. It was a home run pick and you know it

[Maynard13]

1 hour ago, Tooooon said:

“Big special teams player”

What is that thing growing out of his head?  Did he graduate?  Doesn't sound like it.

[SayNoToDMC]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I still ride hard for Team Hater. If we drafted a safety or a guard, I’d be in my feelings. But a pass rusher? It’s like, ok, I can explain that expense.

We make small steps away in our justified hate for this team recently. We where the correct ones for years. I believe we've had something going finally minus Zach. I'll trust he saw something in this guy.

[slimjasi]

2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

If the bills had a top ten pick I wouldve taken Kincaid. He's going to eat zone covg alive like Kelce. I drinking a shot of crown now and celebrating. It was a home run pick and you know it

I really don’t 

I generally don’t like taking TEs in the first round since so many good ones come from the mid rounds and there have been so many disappointing first round guys 

[Sammybighead]

4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

If the bills had a top ten pick I wouldve taken Kincaid. He's going to eat zone covg alive like Kelce. I drinking a shot of crown now and celebrating. It was a home run pick and you know it

Glad your happy, congrats

[PS17]

B E N D

L O N G

T W I T C H Y

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[slimjasi]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah, I am nooot a Davis fan at all, but I thought it was noteworthy that Jeremiah went out of his way to talk about how full-up the Jets receiver room is, and the Davis/Rodgers tidbit.

Rodgers probably prefers veteran WRs to rookies like I imagine most QBs do 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

Rodgers probably prefers veteran WRs to rookies like I imagine most QBs do 

Don't forget about mims. We honestly have no clue how good he is. With Rodgers he could explode. The QB play was that bad. Don't count out mims

[slimjasi]

Just now, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Don't forget about mims. We honestly have no clue how good he is. With Rodgers he could explode. The QB play was that bad. Don't count out mims

Nah Mims probably sucks 

[football guy]

11 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

I’d be fine with a guy like that…if he wasn’t a top 15 pick.  Plus, we have that type of player in Huff.  As I said earlier, we are one Garrett Wilson injury away from being a disaster class at WR.  If that happens, you’re also hoping that Corey Davis and Mecole Hardman beat their own injury bugs and stay healthy.

Jets got smoked by the pick swap, plain and simple. No one wanted to believe this result would happen but it did. Will McDonald will be a fine player and I absolutely believe the team should be investing in pass rush if not pass protectors, but doesn’t change the fact that tonight was a failure in many ways… the entire offseason was built up towards adding an OT and it didn’t happen because a team leapfrogged them to take their guy who they would’ve had if they did not cave on the pick swap. Doesn’t mean drafting McDonald over JSN was the wrong move… 

1) JSN was never happening. All the rumors of him to the Jets were driven by Gary V’s relationship with the team/fandom.
2) he was not a great fit in our offense because we devalue slot receivers. He’s a slot-only player who lacks explosiveness. Your not drafting JSN to be your 5th/6th receiver. You’re drafting him to be a staple in the slot the way the Lions use St. Brown. That was never happening here as mentioned above because we utilize the slot for X’s, Z’s, F’s, and RB’s. 
3) If any top player at any key position goes down you’re going to have problems. Your not planning your offseason about that unless you’re given reason to, and the Jets were: Duane Brown is old and Mekhi Becton is injury prone. But you can say the same thing for Q, Sauce, Breece, etc. 
4) were much better equipped to handle an injury to GW (god forbid) than you’re giving credit for. This is the first year Mecole got hurt—I wouldn’t call that a track record yet. The rapport is there with Lazard. There’s legit optimism that Hackett + Rodgers can get the most out of Mims. We’re loaded at TE. Rodgers has done better with a lot worse.

OL is a problem that they’re gonna have to figure out how to pivot to fix. Can’t afford a Becton or Brown injury sending this into a tailspin. That’s the real legitimate concern

 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

38 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Douglas letting buffalo get Kincaid was a massive massive mistake. You don't let Allen get his Kelce. You draft him for Rodgers 

What does that even mean?  JD's job is not to prevent division opponents from drafting players that might help them.  His job is to make the Jets better.  How does JD picking at 15 prevent the Bills from drafting a player at 25?  Are you saying the Jets should have drafted Kincaid?  You were saying at the time the Jets picked that Levis was the pick.  You really think the Jets would pull the equivalent of drafting Love 2 days after trading for  Rodgers?  And the Jets were not drafting a TE at 15.  The Jets have a young talented TE in Ruckert.  I'm not sure why you -  a Bills fan- are on a Jets forum telling Jets fans who the Jets should draft.  

[Jet_Engine1]

49 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Find me one player, in the modern era, with his measurements, that went on to become an effective pass rusher in the NFL.

Vonn Miller was around 6'3 245

 

Hell, LT was 6'3 235

 

Don't dislike the player, but the position was not a need, and the value sucked. It was a dumb, luxury pick. I would rather have taken the f*cking  TE there. sh*t, I'd rather have had O'Cyrus tbh

 

 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

2 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

What does that even mean?  JD's job is not to prevent division opponents from drafting players that might help them.  His job is to make the Jets better.  How does JD picking at 15 prevent the Bills from drafting a player at 25?  Are you saying the Jets should have drafted Kincaid?  You were saying at the time the Jets picked that Levis was the pick.  You really think the Jets would pull the equivalent of drafting Love 2 days after trading for  Rodgers?  And the Jets were not drafting a TE at 15.  The Jets have a young talented TE in Ruckert.  I'm not sure why you -  a Bills fan- are on a Jets forum telling Jets fans who the Jets should draft.  

Rodgers with Kincaid would be lethal. It was a huge panic pick by Douglas. Beane said when he got into the teens he was desperate to trade up. 

It's a massive massive home run pick for buffalo and Allen 

[SayNoToDMC]

5 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Don't forget about mims. We honestly have no clue how good he is. With Rodgers he could explode. The QB play was that bad. Don't count out mims

Mims I think is getting moved the next couple days, odd man out.

He was the guy I wanted here a few years ago on draft day. Rodgers got his guy Lazard. He wanted GB to trade for Davis last year and Wilson is Wilson. Mims is the odd man out. I would love to see him get a chance in the system and with Rodgers. I'm just not thinking he survives the weekend