Barton Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Go check out his 2022 highlights. Very explosive and fast. Eyeball test passes. Would easily be the 2nd best RB on the team behind Breece and a great insurance policy should Breece start out slow or get injured. 4.4 YPC is nothing to sneeze at. For a 1 yr deal, why not? This team has very few playmaker on offense, not counting the QB. Cook is legit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Barton said: Go check out his 2022 highlights. Very explosive and fast. Eyeball test passes. Would easily be the 2nd best RB on the team behind Breece and a great insurance policy should Breece start out slow or get injured. 4.4 YPC is nothing to sneeze at. For a 1 yr deal, why not? This team has very few playmaker on offense, not counting the QB. Cook is legit. Exactly. What’s the downside exactly? If JD can fit him under the cap then it’s a no brainer. Not like there’s some blue chip LT free agent out there that we need to save our money for 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Instead of Cook, how about one of these alternatives once roster cutdowns get going (not all will be available but several seem possible/likely): * Tyrion Davis-Price (SF) @Paradis * Eno Benjamin (NO) * Clyde Edwards-Helaire (KC) * Caleb Huntley (ATL) * Craig Reynolds (DET) * DeeJay Dallas (SEA) * Myles Gaskin/Salvon Ahmed (MIA) * Boston Scott/Trey Sermon (PHI) * Ronald Jones (DAL) * JaMycal Hasty (JAX) * Justice Hill (BAL) * Ke’Shawn Vaughn/Patrick Laird (TB) * JJ Taylor/Kevin Harris (NE) * Travis Homer/Tristan Ebner (CHI) * Jonathan Williams/Jaret Patterson (WSH) Or just sign current street FA Kareem Hunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Exactly. What’s the downside exactly? If JD can fit him under the cap then it’s a no brainer. Not like there’s some blue chip LT free agent out there that we need to save our money for Aaron Rodgers isn’t playing for $1.1M in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Instead of Cook, how about one of these alternatives once roster cutdowns get going (not all will be available but several seem possible/likely): * Tyrion Davis-Price (SF) @Paradis * Eno Benjamin (NO) * Clyde Edwards-Helaire (KC) * Caleb Huntley (ATL) * Craig Reynolds (DET) * DeeJay Dallas (SEA) * Myles Gaskin/Salvon Ahmed (MIA) * Boston Scott/Trey Sermon (PHI) * Ronald Jones (DAL) * JaMycal Hasty (JAX) * Justice Hill (BAL) * Ke’Shawn Vaughn/Patrick Laird (TB) * JJ Taylor/Kevin Harris (NE) * Travis Homer/Tristan Ebner (CHI) * Jonathan Williams/Jaret Patterson (WSH) Or just sign current street FA Kareem Hunt. Cmon, 80. None of those guys are even in Madden besides Clyde Helaire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Barton said: Cmon, 80. None of those guys are even in Madden besides Clyde Helaire. Oh is that what we’re basing RB grades on now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Hey @Barton know what else isn’t in Madden? An accurate rating for that unathletic shlub Najee Harris. Eno Benjamin would be the 2nd best back on our roster and it wouldn’t be particularly close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Oh is that what we’re basing RB grades on now I was JK. Cook is legit, bro. Proven back year after year. 4.4 YPC is pretty good too. Same as a few other top backs in the league. He is VERY good. Eno? cmon man. 500 career yards. ypc under 4. cmon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 If one of these teams that are interested are from states that have no state income tax, we can forget about it because JD isn't going to blow up the bank to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Exactly. What’s the downside exactly? If JD can fit him under the cap then it’s a no brainer. Not like there’s some blue chip LT free agent out there that we need to save our money for If the report is true and Jets want to pay him $11 million, consider this: Paying Hopkins $20M and cutting Corey Davis as expendable would be getting Hopkins for $10M, or $1 million less than Cook. So, no, signing Cook is not a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, jgb said: If the report is true and Jets want to pay him $11 million, consider this: Paying Hopkins $20M and cutting Corey Davis as expendable would be getting Hopkins for $10M, or $1 million less than Cook. So, no, signing Cook is not a no-brainer. Would you rather have Cook and Corey? Or Hopkins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Would you rather have Cook and Corey? Or Hopkins? Is that a serious question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, jgb said: Is that a serious question? Umm yes? Me personally would prefer both Cook and CD > Hopkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said: Umm yes? Me personally would prefer both Cook and CD > Hopkins. It’s Hopkins and it isn’t close. Much larger delta between Hopkins and Davis than Cook and some JAG until Breece is ready for a full workload. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, NIGHT STALKER said: If one of these teams that are interested are from states that have no state income tax, we can forget about it because JD isn't going to blow up the bank to get him. Again, we have a built-in $10M head start because Hopkins signing makes Davis and his non-guaranteed salary expendable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, jgb said: It’s Hopkins and it isn’t close. Much larger delta between Hopkins and Davis than Cook and some JAG until Breece is ready for a full workload. Eh i think Corey can be just as productive with Rodgers at helm as Hopkins can be. Michael Carter carrying the load for us in the backfield first half of season on the other hand could be a big problem. That’s why I’d take Cook and Corey as opposed to just Hopkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, Rhg1084 said: Eh i think Corey can be just as productive with Rodgers at helm as Hopkins can be. Michael Carter carrying the load for us in the backfield first half of season on the other hand could be a big problem. That’s why I’d take Cook and Corey as opposed to just Hopkins. Yeah that’s a hard 10 disagree from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, jgb said: Yeah that’s a hard 10 disagree from me. Corey Davis is only 28 and averaged 17 yards a catch last year. He will have a breakout season this year with Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Corey Davis is only 28 and averaged 17 yards a catch last year. He will have a breakout season this year with Rodgers. A rising tide lifts all boats so the Jets weapons should fare better but Davis may lose snaps, so calculate that into your expectations. All that said, Hopkins is an all world talent that is going to the HOF and still has juice. Corey Davis just cannot compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, jgb said: A rising tide lifts all boats so the Jets weapons should fare better but Davis may lose snaps, so calculate that into your expectations. All that said, Hopkins is an all world talent that is going to the HOF and still has juice. Corey Davis just cannot compare. First of all this is a moot point cause the Jets and Hopkins have shown 0 mutual interest in each other. Hes visiting Tennessee today or tomorrow anyway. I don’t see it happening for Hopkins and Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Well we had awesome news tonight lets hope it's followed by good news with Cook tomorrow. What was tonight’s news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Barton said: I was JK. Cook is legit, bro. Proven back year after year. 4.4 YPC is pretty good too. Same as a few other top backs in the league. He is VERY good. Eno? cmon man. 500 career yards. ypc under 4. cmon. So how much would Dalvin cost vs Eno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: What was tonight’s news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I too would like hopkins but i think he said publicly he does not want to be here. if cook wants to be here all for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Barton said: Go check out his 2022 highlights. Very explosive and fast. Eyeball test passes. Would easily be the 2nd best RB on the team behind Breece and a great insurance policy should Breece start out slow or get injured. 4.4 YPC is nothing to sneeze at. For a 1 yr deal, why not? This team has very few playmaker on offense, not counting the QB. Cook is legit. No but wait. His play action carries on 2nd down with a 7 point or larger lead, on the road, in the 1st half, while hopping on 1 leg, says he isn’t good. Next Gen says so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: What was tonight’s news? We released Will Parks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: First of all this is a moot point cause the Jets and Hopkins have shown 0 mutual interest in each other. Hes visiting Tennessee today or tomorrow anyway. I don’t see it happening for Hopkins and Jets. Hey pal you asked the hypothetical 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: I too would like hopkins but i think he said publicly he does not want to be here. if cook wants to be here all for it He said nothing he was doing some weird interview when he was asked to “act out” his interest level for certain teams. He kind of just shrugged when the interviewer asked about the jets. This was before we signed Rodgers FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: As was pointed out by @T0mShane, he was the 8th-worst RB in the league in Expected Yards per Carry. I.E. he was merely either taking what his elite run blocking OL was giving him OR leaving a whole mess of yardage on the table on the majority of his carries. There's a reason why the Vikings are so quick to dump him and also can't find a trade partner, and it isn't just the money. He may be toast or close to it. The bold, that’s where I’m at. The Vikings would take anything for him. A 2026 conditional 7th, and no one is biting. He’s got a $10.4M salary currently due, I bet the Vikes would’ve picked up a little of that, too, to get back a pick. The team he plays for, and has played well for, doesn’t think he’s worth the money to the point where now they’re going to simply cut the 28 year old. That’s not a red flag? Minnesota has over $9M in cap space, so it’s not like they’re hurting. It’s gonna be interesting to see what he gets and where he goes, but it’s not going to be eight figures. Certainly not to the Jets, who wanted to give OBJ around $5M with incentives. Him going to Miami doesn’t concern me at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, slats said: The bold, that’s where I’m at. The Vikings would take anything for him. A 2026 conditional 7th, and no one is biting. He’s got a $10.4M salary currently due, I bet the Vikes would’ve picked up a little of that, too, to get back a pick. The team he plays for, and has played well for, doesn’t think he’s worth the money to the point where now they’re going to simply cut the 28 year old. That’s not a red flag? Minnesota has over $9M in cap space, so it’s not like they’re hurting. It’s gonna be interesting to see what he gets and where he goes, but it’s not going to be eight figures. Certainly not to the Jets, who wanted to give OBJ around $5M with incentives. Him going to Miami doesn’t concern me at all. Got it. So, the 3 years on his contract had nothing to do with the Vikings waiving him? Anyone trading for him, would have had to pick up those 2 additional years and this year at 14 million. Why would any team give up anything, when the Vikings were obviously not going to pay him $43 million for the next 3 years. I am not saying Cook is worth $11 million per season. But to say you dont have interest and are willing to let the Dolphins or Bills pick him up, makes no sense to me. And hopefully not to the Jets. They need to try and obtain him. We didnt almost draft Gibbs in the 1st round, because we were ok with our RBs. Izzy is not the answer. He is a special teams guy with upside. Not a 3 down back. Rodgers has gone his career with 2 solid RBs behind him. We have Breece and he is coming off a bad injury. We need a legit 2nd back. Cook is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JETS SB said: Got it. So, the 3 years on his contract had nothing to do with the Vikings waiving him? Anyone trading for him, would have had to pick up those 2 additional years and this year at 14 million. Why would any team give up anything, when the Vikings were obviously not going to pay him $43 million for the next 3 years. I am not saying Cook is worth $11 million per season. But to say you dont have interest and are willing to let the Dolphins or Bills pick him up, makes no sense to me. And hopefully not to the Jets. They need to try and obtain him. We didnt almost draft Gibbs in the 1st round, because we were ok with our RBs. Izzy is not the answer. He is a special teams guy with upside. Not a 3 down back. Rodgers has gone his career with 2 solid RBs behind him. We have Breece and he is coming off a bad injury. We need a legit 2nd back. Cook is. He has nothing guaranteed left on his contract, so his cap number for a team looking to trade for him or pick him up on waivers would be just the $10.4M in salary this year. The Vikes are allegedly holding onto him for another day in hopes that someone offers something, my guess is that they’d be willing to pitch in on this year’s salary in exchange for a pick, yet still no one bites. Also have no idea if anyone is interested in him. Could just be agent speak. Ezekiel Elliot is still looking for work, too. I don’t think Cook is or was ever as good as his reputation, especially since a lot of folks here really wanted to draft him. I suspect he’s now in that Le’Veon Bell spectrum, not understanding that the best place for him to be is right where he is - even if it’s for less money. He’s got a ton of wear & tear along with a fumbling issue. This is just simply not a player I’d be interested in, not unless he was coming very cheap. But I’m not nearly as worried about the RB room as you or some others might be. I expect Breece to be pretty Breece-like by the time they get to their bye, and feel that there’s more than enough amongst the three other guys to hold it together in the meantime. If I’m spending that kinda money on a player, it would probably be a WR. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Integrity28 said: What was tonight’s news? Moving around cap dollars is not that hard. They’ll figure it out. This team might only have a 2 year window with Rodgers. We need to load up with dalton cooks, not emo 500 yards 3.8 to ypc.JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 He’s probably going to the dolphins. Y’all tripping lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Larz said: He’s probably going to the dolphins. Y’all tripping lol That's my guess. I have a bad feeling that Cook goes to Miami and Hopkins to Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Bobby816 said: That's my guess. I have a bad feeling that Cook goes to Miami and Hopkins to Buffalo I think he’s visiting Tennessee. The AFC is ridiculous lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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