McGovern - Jets FO “got rid of all the bad apples”

[Jetsfan80]

41 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Source??? The guy single handily lost multiple games last year.  I'm sure his team mates just love when he's under center.

Can’t even say he’s a nice boy like Darnold was, who at least could be handed a modicum of sympathy when he was here.

Wilson answering the “did you let your defense down” question incorrectly couldn’t have done him any favors with his teammates, despite how much it was downplayed by his defenders.  Not to mention Wilson blaming the wind during the NE game when literally his only special skill is throwing the ball really hard.  

[Claymation]

43 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

So Becton is not a bad apple?

MiLF thought he was.

[Integrity28]

McGovern deserves credit for making a bunch of degenerate 40+ year olds spin their wheels on this one. Solid work.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

4 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

 still one left to go

LOL

Out of the league by '25.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Disliked?  Maybe not.  Do Jets players go out of their way to defend him, call him a leader, talk about him being a great guy, etc etc?  Also no, not so much.

Put it this way:  A team that really likes a QB wouldn’t all wear t-shirts with the backup’s face on it for a couple weeks:
 

 

 

CC:  @T0mShane

If Zach really wanted to get ahead of this and show he's a good sport, he should have been wearing one, too.

Instead he was caught brooding on the sidelines looking like evil Anakin.

[Scott Dierking]

1 hour ago, Asymmetrical said:

It definitely must have stung Zach but I think there's a case to be made for it being a "rally around the new guy" moment. It was clear that Zach wasn't starting again that year unless Mike White's ribs exploded. I try not to get too sucked into the Wilson discourse these days but he was abysmal and the team knew it. 

No doubt Wilson was abysmal. But in a team concept, you do not tear someone down while trying to build someone else up. Just a bad look. 

[LSJF]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Disliked?  Maybe not.  Do Jets players go out of their way to defend him, call him a leader, talk about him being a great guy, etc etc?  Also no, not so much.

Put it this way:  A team that really likes a QB wouldn’t all wear t-shirts with the backup’s face on it for a couple weeks:
 

 

 

CC:  @T0mShane

The T-shirt thing was so freaking lame, I blame Saleh and

Lafleur for letting that go on, I thought the players were supposed to make “the main thing the main thing” 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Disliked?  Maybe not.  Do Jets players go out of their way to defend him, call him a leader, talk about him being a great guy, etc etc?  Also no, not so much.

Put it this way:  A team that really likes a QB wouldn’t all wear t-shirts with the backup’s face on it for a couple weeks:
 

 

 

CC:  @T0mShane

Mannnnn stop it. They wore these dumb tshirts because it's the BACK UP QB. Every team loves seeing the back up QB come in and play well. It's their one opportunity to shine. They had fun with it. Had nothing to do with ZW. Berrios did it and he's butt buddies with ZW. 

Anyway. Stop talking about ZW. Seasons about to start. 

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Mannnnn stop it. They wore these dumb tshirts because it's the BACK UP QB. Every team loves seeing the back up QB come in and play well. It's their one opportunity to shine. They had fun with it. Had nothing to do with ZW. Berrios did it and he's butt buddies with ZW. 

Anyway. Stop talking about ZW. Seasons about to start. 

Now do all the other things I listed.

Meanwhile, since we’re one rough play away from Wilson being inserted under center at any given time, no, I think I’ll keep talking about him when I feel like it.  

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Now do all the other things I listed.

Meanwhile, since we’re one rough play away from Wilson being inserted under center at any given time, no, I think I’ll keep talking about him when I feel like it.  

Do they go out of their way to defend him? Well, idk, I haven't heard anything since last season because ya know, we have a new guy.

[Maynard13]

17 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Add Mims and Moore. Both were disgruntled and fighting their way out the door.

And the punter. Don’t forget the punter who cost us the Pats game last year and also losing out on Trevor Lawrence. He’s hated by all Jets fans and anyone associated with the Jets. 🤬

[HighPitch]

Hmmmm how exactly does one predict the outcome of a draft prospect anyways?

its like having kids you do t know if youre getting einstien or dahmer despite not drinking and doing all pre natal diligence

[Jetsfan80]

58 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Do they go out of their way to defend him? Well, idk, I haven't heard anything since last season because ya know, we have a new guy.

Sounds like you have your answer then.  So the guy who said they "don't dislike him" really has no evidence of that.  All we have is the 1st two seasons when, no, they didn't like him.  So I'll stick with that.  At best they're indifferent.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Now do all the other things I listed.

Meanwhile, since we’re one rough play away from Wilson being inserted under center at any given time, no, I think I’ll keep talking about him when I feel like it.  

Find the smallest tree in the forest, chop it down, then act like you cleared all 100 acres.

@JNDebateTactics

[Joe W. Namath]

Some of you are lucky Captain Joe W has not yet been given the power to ban folks.  You guys polluting every thread with Zach bashing would be the 1st to go.

Pathetic.

[UntouchableCrew]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Meanwhile, since we’re one rough play away from Wilson being inserted under center at any given time, no, I think I’ll keep talking about him when I feel like it.  

I'll "move on" when we give him the Trey Lance treatment.

[CanadaSteve]

5 hours ago, Warfish said:

Not chastised, no.

But not given any particular credit or praise either.

The bad hire outweighs how quickly you fire them.

And I don't think a boss gets praised for firing anyone either.

If one of the examples is indeed Elijah Moore, I would absolutely not fault JD for the draft pick.  The majority of this board was ecstatic, me included, by the pick.  He was a solid player coming out.  Sometimes things don't work out.  But better to rectify them fast and move on than keep someone in the locker room who doesn't want to be here. 

 

[Claymation]

3 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

LOL

Out of the league by '25.

[Warfish]

15 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

And I don't think a boss gets praised for firing anyone either.

If one of the examples is indeed Elijah Moore, I would absolutely not fault JD for the draft pick.

On the contrary, I would fault JD (and Saleh and the staff) for mismanagement of Moore, but that is an unpopular view here.

15 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

The majority of this board was ecstatic, me included, by the pick.  He was a solid player coming out.  Sometimes things don't work out.

And sometimes a front office or staff can make mistakes that cause them to not work out.

15 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

  But better to rectify them fast and move on than keep someone in the locker room who doesn't want to be here. 

Better still to not play favorites, so the talent doesn't want to "not be here" in the first place.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

48 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Sounds like you have your answer then.  So the guy who said they "don't dislike him" really has no evidence of that.  All we have is the 1st two seasons when, no, they didn't like him.  So I'll stick with that.  At best they're indifferent.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Some of you are lucky Captain Joe W has not yet been given the power to ban folks.  You guys polluting every thread with Zach bashing would be the 1st to go.

Pathetic.

Every Captain learns very quickly that their "job" is basically the equivalent of Assistant (to the) Regional Manager.

And given Shane's choices at Captain....thank goodness for that!  Fidelio would have banned 60+ % of the board.

[Jetsfan80]

22 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

^^^ Projecting

[jgb]

12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Every Captain learns very quickly that their "job" is basically the equivalent of Assistant (to the) Regional Manager.

And given Shane's choices at Captain....thank goodness for that!  Fidelio would have banned 60+ % of the board.

Tom does it again. Picked someone who GAF about being captain.

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

Tom does it again. Picked someone who GAF about being captain.

[slimjasi]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Some of you are lucky Captain Joe W has not yet been given the power to ban folks.  You guys polluting every thread with Zach bashing would be the 1st to go.

Pathetic.

[Dcat]

6 hours ago, Anthony Jet said:

ZW isn’t disliked in the locker room. As much as people hate to hear that 

Correct.

The dislike emerges when he tries to throw a football.

[Dcat]

Major bad apple:

[jgb]

13 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Major bad apple:

[freestater]

Are we sure he's not talking about @DefenseWinsChampionships85?

[Dcat]

7 minutes ago, jgb said:

whip it good

 

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, Dcat said:

whip it good

 

If he was a QB, 40 JN posters would be screaming "He's gone and can't hurt you anymore. Why you so obsessed, brah? Stop beating a dead horse!" 

[Dcat]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

If he was a QB, 40 JN posters would be screaming "He's gone and can't hurt you anymore. Why you so obsessed, brah? Stop beating a dead horse!" 

Because the whole thread is about beating dead horses.  The bad apples are gone. He's one of the big ones.  Players hated him and he sucks as a coordinator.  Born into the correct family to still have a job.

[jgb]

Just now, Dcat said:

Because the whole thread is about beating dead horses.  The bad apples are gone. He's one of the big ones.  Players hated him and he sucks as a coordinator.  Born into the correct family to still have a job.

Perhaps I explained inartfully, but I think you're intelligent enough to understand the point. Pretend you don't if you want, I guess.

[Jet_Engine1]

23 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Who are these bad apples he speaks of? Hmmm🤔

Adams, Mimz, etc. The malingerers and bullsh*t artists. And Darnold. 😆 

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Adams, Mimz, etc. The malingerers and bullsh*t artists. And Darnold. 😆 

I didn't think it was possible for Zach Wilson to be so bad that I'd prefer Darnold as the QB2 over Wilson.  Yet....here we are.

🎵 You don't what you got....till its gone.... 🎵