Rhg1084 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I don’t know do we trust JD to keep churning through 1st round OLineman? I could already see us taking this guy who is a bust and Bowers goes on to be a star 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Better run blocker than pass blocker. Projects to be a high end starter, wouldn't be mad at the pick. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Better run blocker than pass blocker. Projects to be a high end starter, wouldn't be mad at the pick. Worse part of this pick is Joe is considering picking him. Red flag! 6 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neckdemon Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 i called this pick a month ago. unless fashanu drops we are picking fuaga 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: Better run blocker than pass blocker. Projects to be a high end starter, wouldn't be mad at the pick. Bring in a veteran free agent (Bahktari?) .. then we’d be looking at a line of Bahktari AVT Tippman Fuaga swing: Carter Warren maybe bring back Tomlinson if he takes pay cut? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neckdemon Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I don’t know do we trust JD to keep churning through 1st round OLineman? I could already see us taking this guy who is a bust and Bowers goes on to be a star we aren't picking a tight end. it's gonna be OT or WR 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 picking any tackle that is a good run blocker but less than good pass blocker is stupid. Pass blocking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run blocking for a tackle #1 priority is to be a good pass blocker, anything in the run game is a bonus for a tackle. Guards and centers? Maybe moreos looking for run blockers. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 He's been obsessed w/ him for months? Months? Really? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Bowers goes on to be a star Bowers looks great. Generational. Over the past 10+ years we have seen many TEs be predicted to be great. The Falcons used a high pick on the last generational TE, and they still stink. Hockensen. Djoku. Guys like Gronk, Kelce and Kittle get picked in the 2nd, 3rd and 5th round. There are no FA OL available really, particularly Ts. You need Ts for an NFL team. You draft them in Round 1 if you have to. You try and find them lower. You don't use the 1st round for C and G-those you have to find lower. Basically 2nd for C and 3 and 4 for G. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: He's been obsessed w/ him for months? Months? Really? That's how we know he sucks. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 Just now, The Crusher said: That's how we know he sucks. lol - the kids a Junior. How did JD even know he was going to declare months ago? Especially nowadays when you can basically play college Football for 7 years w/ the ridiculous eligibility rules. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: That's how we know he's already injured. fyp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neckdemon Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, Beerfish said: picking any tackle that is a good run blocker but less than good pass blocker is stupid. Pass blocking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run blocking for a tackle #1 priority is to be a good pass blocker, anything in the run game is a bonus for a tackle. Guards and centers? Maybe moreos oooking for run blockers. who said he isn't a good pass blocker? its just that he is a very elite run blocker. he's only given up 4 qb hits in his last 2 years a starter and has never given up a sack during his college career AT ALL 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Here we go with the offseason bs. From memory I don’t recall any “expert” knowing who the jets picked ahead of time besides Zach (which seemed obvious) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: fyp It's ok our top notch medical staff is up to the task. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skeet Ulrich Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, neckdemon said: who said he isn't a good pass blocker? its just that he is a very elite run blocker. he's only given up 4 qb hits in his last 2 years a starter and has never given up a sack during his college career AT ALL He might struggle with elite NFL pass rushers but most rookie OTs do, so that's not really a demerit. He has the prerequisite wingspan/technique/athletic ability to be a positive pass blocker. I'd be very happy to draft him at 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, The Crusher said: That's how we know he sucks. lol thats funny. but this guy is like the sauce garner of tackles. just like sauce never gave up a td in college. this kis has never given up a sack and only 4 qb hits since being a starter (and he started i think 4 games as a freshman) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/nfl-draft-2020-position-question-surrounds-lineman-tristan-wirfs/ Welp..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: He might struggle with elite NFL pass rushers but most rookie OTs do, so that's not really a demerit. He has the prerequisite wingspan/technique/athletic ability to be a positive pass blocker. I'd be very happy to draft him at 10. he might but he might not. i'm no scout but he looks pretty quick on his feet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Last year on hard knocks we saw how influential the director of college scouting is on draft day. Need to know who that guy likes after the team has draft meetings in March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/nfl-draft-2020-position-question-surrounds-lineman-tristan-wirfs/ Welp..... I think Thorn was pretty high on Wirfs going into the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: I think Thorn was pretty high on Wirfs going into the draft. mid to late 2nd round. i think almost no one else has him that low. who gives a sh*t what this guy says.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Because good OL are only available in rd 1 apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I think Thorn was pretty high on Wirfs going into the draft. This article was on newyorkjets.com less than two weeks before the 2020 draft. https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/nfl-draft-profile-iowa-t-tristan-wirfs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 39 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Bring in a veteran free agent (Bahktari?) .. then we’d be looking at a line of Bahktari AVT Tippman Fuaga swing: Carter Warren maybe bring back Tomlinson if he takes pay cut? I think this lineup could be a good OL, but if we signing Bahktari then we need to be signing another LT that could be expected to start in the likely event Bahktari goes down with another injury. Given the amount of cautious+incentive $ that Bahktari would get I don't anticipate that would be cost prohibitive and we would be able to sign 2 LTs in the bargain department. I do wonder if we recoup a 2nd round pick if we'd be inclined to draft a LT in the 2nd or 3rd round instead of signing an additional LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Fuaga seems like the best combo of upside plus high floor in this draft. I don't think Alt's upside is crazy high but he seems like a safe bet to be a good LT. Olu seems like the opposite - huge upside but big bust potential. Fuaga seems to have the big upside but at the very least he projects as a high-end run blocking RT at the NFL level. If we miss out on Bowers and Odunze, he'd probably be right up there as far as guys I would take. Also I'm starting to think the safe move is to sign a LT. You just can't bank on one of the big LTs dropping to us in the draft - not at this point in time at least(maybe that'll change come April). I'd rather just bring in a short term veteran LT and then see how the draft plays out. If the weapons are gone, take Fuaga. If Bowers is there, take him and then try to move up in the 2nd for a guy like Beebe or Barton or Haynes. Slot them in at RG and bounce AVT to RT. IMO that would be the safest way to go. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 TE is literally my favorite position and I would never draft Bowers at 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 Daniel Jeremiah gave JD the Becton over Wirfs pick. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: This article was on newyorkjets.com less than two weeks before the 2020 draft. https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/nfl-draft-profile-iowa-t-tristan-wirfs Reading that made me wonder why we let Kelvin Beachum go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 52 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Bring in a veteran free agent (Bahktari?) .. then we’d be looking at a line of Bahktari AVT Tippman Fuaga swing: Carter Warren maybe bring back Tomlinson if he takes pay cut? can we stop with the Bahktari nonsense? dude is not a serious starting LT candidate in 2024. has barely played this decade. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Because good OL are only available in rd 1 apparently. If you're patient enough to develop them, sure. We still have a couple of guys who could become something, even though I'm sure a bunch of people already consider them busts. Warren looked pretty good in his time at LT when Becton was down. He'd be a guy I'd love to see get another year of development behind a short-term vet(Bakhtiari) to see if he could take over that spot. Even Mitchell has showed some signs of promise. Mostly pre-blood clot issue, but even this past season he completely shut down Maxx Crosby, which is pretty incredible when you think about it. This guy viewed as a "nothing, depth piece", less than 2 years removed from being a 4th rounder, shut down arguably the best pass rusher in the league. Problem is there is risk in relying on these guys to earn starter spots. People want certainty, and certainty only comes from UFA signings or 1st rounders....but even then, it's never certain....just less risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack Straw Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: can we stop with the Bahktari nonsense? dude is not a serious starting LT candidate in 2024. has barely played this decade. This might be the most annoying LT candidate of the 2024 class. Jets fans watch two straight seasons of the offensive line being decimated by injuries and their first instinct is to sign/trade for a LT who's played 13 games in the last three years. 8 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: .....do we trust JD..... I don't, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: can we stop with the Bahktari nonsense? dude is not a serious starting LT candidate in 2024. has barely played this decade. Just now, Jack Straw said: This might be the most annoying LT candidate of the 2024 class. Jets fans watch two straight seasons of the offensive line being decimated by injuries and their first instinct is to sign/trade for a LT who's played 13 games in the last three years. I would not rule that out or call it nonsense at all. If he shakes loose or becomes available, I fully expect the Jets to be the first callers to Green Bay or his agent. They tried to work a package deal out last year when Rodgers talks developed. That fell through because Green Bay wanted him for Love. He’s, also, probably Aaron’s closest friend in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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