section314 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Looking like the same people who vote for Baseball HOF also vote for NFL MVP. Lamar was a shoo in to win, but Josh Allen 5th? Behind Dak and Purdy? In addition to getting the only other 1st place vote, you take Allen off the Bills and they are the Commanders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted February 9 Popular Post Share Posted February 9 Absolutely infuriating. When I find out who is responsible for this I'm going to write them a strongly worded letter. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post playtowinthegame Posted February 9 Popular Post Share Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, section314 said: Looking like the same people who vote for Baseball HOF also vote for NFL MVP. Lamar was a shoo in to win, but Josh Allen 5th? Behind Dak and Purdy? In addition to getting the only other 1st place vote, you take Allen off the Bills and they are the Commanders. Lamar has as many MVP's as he does playoff wins. Impressive. Props to the Ravens for getting that huge contract done. 2 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Doesn't seem egregious. I personally would have gone 1. Lamar 2. Allen 3. IDK 4. IDK But Dak over Allen doesn’t seem crazy. First, it’s second place. Neither is getting an award. Statistically, they are similar Total Yards: Allen 4,830, Prescott 4,758 Total TDs: Allen 44, Prescott 38 Total TOs: Allen 25, Prescott 13 Comp%: Allen 66.5%, Prescott 69.5% QBR: Allen 69.6, Prescott 72.7 PFF Grade: Allen 92.1, Prescott 90.0 2-5 is a bit of a toss up. I don’t see a reason to criticize. Lamar was expected to win and he won by a landslide. The next 4 were debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 19 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Doesn't seem egregious. I personally would have gone 1. Lamar 2. Allen 3. IDK 4. IDK But Dak over Allen doesn’t seem crazy. First, it’s second place. Neither is getting an award. Statistically, they are similar Total Yards: Allen 4,830, Prescott 4,758 Total TDs: Allen 44, Prescott 38 Total TOs: Allen 25, Prescott 13 Comp%: Allen 66.5%, Prescott 69.5% QBR: Allen 69.6, Prescott 72.7 PFF Grade: Allen 92.1, Prescott 90.0 2-5 is a bit of a toss up. I don’t see a reason to criticize. Lamar was expected to win and he won by a landslide. The next 4 were debatable. I think if Dallas could trade Prescott today, they jump on it. Doubt Bills would even take the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 McCaffery should be at least #2 Lamar #1 McCaffery #2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, section314 said: I think if Dallas could trade Prescott today, they jump on it. Doubt Bills would even take the call. Possibly. But I don't think that’s how they vote. Otherwise Mahomes should be the MVP every year. He’s truly the most valuable player in the league. They vote looking at stats. And while I think Allen is more valuable to his team, he didn’t take care of the ball as well as Prescott. And Prescott was only about 70 yards shy in total yards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: McCaffery should be at least #2 Lamar #1 McCaffery #2 The 49ers are fascinating. Has there been another team with two players in the top 5 in mvp voting? That offense is stacked. McCaffrey, Aiyuk, Kittle, Williams, Deebo and Purdy. 😂 I wonder who their players selected as team MVP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 10 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Possibly. But I don't think that’s how they vote. Otherwise Mahomes should be the MVP every year. He’s truly the most valuable player in the league. They vote looking at stats. And while I think Allen is more valuable to his team, he didn’t take care of the ball as well as Prescott. And Prescott was only about 70 yards shy in total yards. I think MVP means the player who is most valuable to his team, that without him they are toast. You can make an argument that Dallas would be better without Dak. Lamb and Parsons are way more valuable. Bills are horrible without Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jbt Posted February 9 Popular Post Share Posted February 9 Allen did lose to a Zach Wilson quarterbacked team this year. that is disqualifying. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxta_p Posted February 9 Popular Post Share Posted February 9 My number one would be aaron rogers. before his injuries the jets had already won the superbowl. With him gone we didnt even make the playoffs 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said: Lamar has as many MVP's as he does playoff wins. Impressive. Props to the Ravens for getting that huge contract done. Look up the names who have won 2 or more MVP’s in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 This was the year a non QB should’ve won. This tells you that the award is the best QB of the year award. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 20 minutes ago, August said: This was the year a non QB should’ve won. This tells you that the award is the best QB of the year award. Seriously? You need to get your eyes checked or something. This isn’t a postseason award this is a regular season award. Lamar Jackson ran away with this thing and it’s not even close bro. Yeah he sh*t the bed vs the Chiefs but that doesn’t mean jack sh*t in the MVP voting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, section314 said: I think MVP means the player who is most valuable to his team, that without him they are toast. You can make an argument that Dallas would be better without Dak. Lamb and Parsons are way more valuable. Bills are horrible without Allen. Agreed but where are the Ravens without Lamar? Probably about the same as the Bills, but Lamar out performed Allen this year and every other QB in the REGULAR SEASON. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 11 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Seriously? You need to get your eyes checked or something. This isn’t a postseason award this is a regular season award. Lamar Jackson ran away with this thing and it’s not even close bro. Yeah he sh*t the bed vs the Chiefs but that doesn’t mean jack sh*t in the MVP voting. He doesn’t have MVP numbers. I do think his value isn’t quantified by numbers but they had to give it to a QB and Lamar was the best option for this year… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Shocked some of you aren’t saying it should be Breece Hall lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, playtowinthegame said: Lamar has as many MVP's as he does playoff wins. Impressive. Props to the Ravens for getting that huge contract done. Guess who had 3 MVP's before his 3rd playoff win? Peyton Manning. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Seriously? You need to get your eyes checked or something. This isn’t a postseason award this is a regular season award. Lamar Jackson ran away with this thing and it’s not even close bro. Yeah he sh*t the bed vs the Chiefs but that doesn’t mean jack sh*t in the MVP voting. Save it, these dudes were all the same bozo's saying Lamar was far removed from his MVP season and will never be close to an MVP again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Agreed but where are the Ravens without Lamar? Probably about the same as the Bills, but Lamar out performed Allen this year and every other QB in the REGULAR SEASON. Lamar really does meet the definition of the award "Most Valuable Player". He did it all for the Ravens. They were even the leaders in rushing in the NFL and he was their leading rusher. (That's not meant as a "Lamar is a glorified RB" shot). I think Josh Allen deserves plenty of consideration too. He does so much for the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Absolutely infuriating. When I find out who is responsible for this I'm going to write them a strongly worded letter. Your strongly worded letters have not worked when sending them to Saleh, Douglas and Woody. Why should we think it would work this time? I mean you can't even convince t0m shane that jaxson smith njigba would have been a better pick than will mcdonald! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Your strongly worded letters have not worked when sending them to Saleh, Douglas and Woody. Why should we think it would work this time? I mean you can't even convince t0m shane that jaxson smith njigba would have been a better pick than will mcdonald! I intend on breaking out my calligraphy pen for this one. No one can ignore a letter resembling the damn constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Warfish said: Shocked some of you aren’t saying it should be Breece Hall lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: McCaffery should be at least #2 Lamar #1 McCaffery #2 I give McCaffery #1. 2000 yards. 20 TDs Lamar threw for under 4000, 25 passing TDs. It's not the mvp. Just call it the best QB award 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, GreenFish said: The 49ers are fascinating. Has there been another team with two players in the top 5 in mvp voting? That offense is stacked. McCaffrey, Aiyuk, Kittle, Williams, Deebo and Purdy. 😂 I wonder who their players selected as team MVP. Rams 2001 and 1999 Warner and Faulk were #1 and #2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Dak ahead of Josh Allen is LOL worthy. They really should wait for the postseason to conclude to hand out MVPs. I've never understood the rush to crown an MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 am i the only one who doesn't gaf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, JustInFudge said: Guess who had 3 MVP's before his 3rd playoff win? Peyton Manning. guess who is 100 times better than Lamar (I cant play when forced to throw ) Jackson .. Peyton Manning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 40 minutes ago, chirorob said: I give McCaffery #1. 2000 yards. 20 TDs Lamar threw for under 4000, 25 passing TDs. It's not the mvp. Just call it the best QB award Yeah call it the best QB award then give it to the worst QB of the bunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Agreed but where are the Ravens without Lamar? Probably about the same as the Bills, but Lamar out performed Allen this year and every other QB in the REGULAR SEASON. Agree about Lamar. The most indispensable guy in the league. My argument is that Allen is #2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, August said: He doesn’t have MVP numbers. I do think his value isn’t quantified by numbers but they had to give it to a QB and Lamar was the best option for this year… His last 3 weeks were absolutely ridiculous stat wise while all the other candidates (and it was very close at the time) sh*t the bed. He won it those last 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 27 minutes ago, section314 said: Agree about Lamar. The most indispensable guy in the league. My argument is that Allen is #2 Allen Mahomes and Lamar probably do the most for their teams period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Lamar really does meet the definition of the award "Most Valuable Player". He did it all for the Ravens. They were even the leaders in rushing in the NFL and he was their leading rusher. (That's not meant as a "Lamar is a glorified RB" shot). I think Josh Allen deserves plenty of consideration too. He does so much for the Bills. 5 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Agreed but where are the Ravens without Lamar? Probably about the same as the Bills, but Lamar out performed Allen this year and every other QB in the REGULAR SEASON. Both of them suck….. as evidenced by the fact we passed on them in the draft. If they were any good, our front office would have identified them. They suck. 😡 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: Allen Mahomes and Lamar probably do the most for their teams period. All 3 were passed over by the bottom feeding NY jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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