Popular Post Matt39 Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 Matt Waldmans worst case scenario basically manifested: What is his floor scenario? If Wilson doesn’t address mechanics that lead to inconsistent accuracy when charting him to an NFL standard for what is accurate instead of basing the projection on completion percentage or charting that underestimates the increased difficulty of the pro game, he could struggle with completing passes at an acceptable level. As a player garnering the buzz of a stylistically-similar option as Mahomes, Wilson’s accuracy on the move, off-platform, and to the opposite field does not match the praise. If he can’t develop a more complete game, he could be rendered a career backup or out of the league by 2025, if not earlier. 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 hours ago, Matt39 said: That explains Zach's issues lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Any updates? Any new "suitors" ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: The Jets miscalculated Wilson, his ability, and his desire to move across the country and step in and be a professional football player. That also doesn’t absolve Wilson of taking for granted the opportunity of getting selected second overall and being handed the starting job. He could have done a lot more. His inner circle was also an issue. Both sides are at fault. The Jets were afraid of giving him expectations or tough love (and we’ve speculated why) but everything Zach wanted he was basically given, including his personal coach on the staff and the firing of Lefleur. you have become the strangest poster on the board, and that is not easy here, congrats on that 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: you have become the strangest poster on the board, and that is not easy here, congrats on that Not sure how that’s your takeaway from what I wrote. But ok. Carry on Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not sure how that’s your takeaway from what I wrote. But ok. Carry on Wayne. They always come for the truth-tellers. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: They always come for the truth-tellers. lol, Im coming for the ones who matter, ZW is irrelevant, the people who drafted him do, and all you bozos ignore them and attack the irrelevant ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 20 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not sure how that’s your takeaway from what I wrote. But ok. Carry on Wayne. your takeaway is emo nonsense. You think Andy Reid would continue to start a QB who in your words doesnt know the playbook? You live in some bizarre world where you scour the Utah daily gazzette (probably naked) and if ZW is as uncommitted as you say, even though many others have said the complete opposite, the ones playing him are a far bigger problem than him. he will be gone they wont, they can draft another idiot and waste another 3 years, hopefully you have access to their local newspaper too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: your takeaway is emo nonsense. You think Andy Reid would continue to start a QB who in your words doesnt know the playbook? You live in some bizarre world where you scour the Utah daily gazzette (probably naked) and if ZW is as uncommitted as you say, even though many others have said the complete opposite, the ones playing him are a far bigger problem than him. he will be gone they wont, they can draft another idiot and waste another 3 years, hopefully you have access to their local newspaper too I was pretty clear that it was a collective failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 28 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: lol, Im coming for the ones who matter, ZW is irrelevant, the people who drafted him do, and all you bozos ignore them and attack the irrelevant ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: I was pretty clear that it was a collective failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, Matt39 said: I was pretty clear that it was a collective failure Put it on Ignore it works for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 We’ve reached day of the Great Bidding War of 2024 ™️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 7:35 PM, Matt39 said: I was pretty clear that it was a collective failure You're wasting your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 5:08 PM, jetstream23 said: Any updates? Any new "suitors" ? The 49ers just offered us Aiyuk and a 1st 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 6:25 PM, Flea Flicking Frank said: lol, Im coming for the ones who matter, ZW is irrelevant, the people who drafted him do, and all you bozos ignore them and attack the irrelevant ones As long as ZW is third on our qb depth chart behind a 40 year old qb coming off a major leg injury who is more worried about off the field nonsense and another injury prone qb he is not irrelevant. Zach is very realistically going to be starting games for the jets at some point next season 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: As long as ZW is third on our qb depth chart behind a 40 year old qb coming off a major leg injury who is more worried about off the field nonsense and another injury prone qb he is not irrelevant. Zach is very realistically going to be starting games for the jets at some point next season if you are on your 3rd starting QB of the season, and you are expecting something from them, that is crazy. This is more emotional than anything, nobody puts real resources into a 3rd qb, you get the boyles of the world and we saw Boyle in this offense, it was probably worse than ZW. But again, ZW is not going to be on the roster this year, its all you and your lunatic posse's emo that is worried about this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: if you are on your 3rd starting QB of the season, and you are expecting something from them, that is crazy. This is more emotional than anything, nobody puts real resources into a 3rd qb, you get the boyles of the world and we saw Boyle in this offense, it was probably worse than ZW. But again, ZW is not going to be on the roster this year, its all you and your lunatic posse's emo that is worried about this I heard this same garbage last offseason. “If Zach is playing our season is over anyway so who cares” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: As long as ZW is third on our qb depth chart behind a 40 year old qb coming off a major leg injury who is more worried about off the field nonsense and another injury prone qb he is not irrelevant. Zach is very realistically going to be starting games for the jets at some point next season We were told that Rodgers' arrival last year reduced Zach to irrelevance, and some of these smooth brains want to double down on that a year later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Rich Thornburgh said: I heard this same garbage last offseason. “If Zach is playing our season is over anyway so who cares” you do realize they brought in a real # 2 QB in Taylor this year, they did not have that last year. Stop being so emo, I like logical Rich much more than emo rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: We were told that Rodgers' arrival last year reduced Zach to irrelevance, and some of these smooth brains want to double down on that a year later. Let’s be honest. They still think Zach is going to be something in the NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Flea Flicking Frank said: you do realize they brought in a real # 2 QB in Taylor this year, they did not have that last year. Stop being so emo, I like logical Rich much more than emo rich Tyrod is made of glass and is a running qb so he is a lock to get injured. Anyways I hope Zach finally vindicates you and Chris Simms I’m sure he will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Tyrod is made of glass and is a running qb so he is a lock to get injured. Anyways I hope Zach finally vindicates you and Chris Simms I’m sure he will Zach will start as the #3 QB by game 8-10. Zero refund, vindication or hope will be available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: I heard this same garbage last offseason. “If Zach is playing our season is over anyway so who cares” The issue with retaining Wilson is it prevents you from drafting a QB, who by default would be better than Wilson. So you can’t say the season would definitely be over with a rookie QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Matt39 said: The issue with retaining Wilson is it prevents you from drafting a QB, who by default would be better than Wilson. So you can’t say the season would definitely be over with a rookie QB. Got a bad feeling we will be Sucking for Sanders by next November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 The optics of Wilson being on the roster for the 2024 season will be nauseating and just more gross incompetence by the Jets front office and the latest in a long line of things that indicate how terrible they've been at running this team. JD and Woody need to take the full L and get him out of here no matter what it takes. He is the poster boy for everything that has been wrong with this team under Woody Johnson and his mere presence in the locker room is a net negative. He has 1000% worn out his welcome here. This team will supposedly be competing for a division title and a long playoff run and whiny little bitch Zack with all his entitlement and smugness shouldn't be anywhere near the Jets locker room to become a distraction. F**k this guy already! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 50 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Tyrod is made of glass and is a running qb so he is a lock to get injured. Anyways I hope Zach finally vindicates you and Chris Simms I’m sure he will vindicates me? in what way? becasue I havent been a little emo bitch running around crying how bad he sucks? And I will keep saying you want to fix the QB position, get the right coach, getting rid of ZW does not fix the QB position, getting a good QB fixes it, not getting rid of bad ones. Its only you emo little girls who don/t follow logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 49 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The issue with retaining Wilson is it prevents you from drafting a QB, who by default would be better than Wilson. So you can’t say the season would definitely be over with a rookie QB. in no way does it prvent you from drafting a QB, this is you sitting around in your underoos refreshing the Utah daily gazette every 3 seconds hoping to find the next mention of ZW. What does prevent us from drafting a QB is we have an awful regime who has no idea what they are looking at in a QB so they went out and mortgaged several years by trading for AR. You can easily draft a QB, ZW has zero to do with that, but drafting a qb with this regime is a flat out wasted draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 27 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: The optics of Wilson being on the roster for the 2024 season will be nauseating and just more gross incompetence by the Jets front office and the latest in a long line of things that indicate how terrible they've been at running this team. JD and Woody need to take the full L and get him out of here no matter what it takes. He is the poster boy for everything that has been wrong with this team under Woody Johnson and his mere presence in the locker room is a net negative. He has 1000% worn out his welcome here. This team will supposedly be competing for a division title and a long playoff run and whiny little bitch Zack with all his entitlement and smugness shouldn't be anywhere near the Jets locker room to become a distraction. F**k this guy already! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, bitonti said: emo's love other emo's..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 28 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: The optics of Wilson being on the roster for the 2024 season will be nauseating Counterpoint: What "optics"? In this scenario, he'd be the inactive/P.S. #3 QB and never be seen on camera on gamedays. Is it your view that Aaron Rodgers will in some way lose the locker room to a busted P.S. #3 QB's "entitled" attitude? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: Counterpoint: What "optics"? In this scenario, he'd be the inactive/P.S. #3 QB and never be seen on camera on gamedays. Is it your view that Aaron Rodgers will in some way lose the locker room to a busted P.S. #3 QB's "entitled" attitude? holy sh*t, logic on a Jets board related to ZW, Im stunned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: in no way does it prvent you from drafting a QB, this is you sitting around in your underoos refreshing the Utah daily gazette every 3 seconds hoping to find the next mention of ZW. What does prevent us from drafting a QB is we have an awful regime who has no idea what they are looking at in a QB so they went out and mortgaged several years by trading for AR. You can easily draft a QB, ZW has zero to do with that, but drafting a qb with this regime is a flat out wasted draft pick They aren’t carrying 4 QBs. The owner has also said they aren’t cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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