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2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Woody is a PR first owner.  

Winning is secondary.  He'll always take the back page moves even if it's not in the long term best interest of the organization.  

 

The media and fans are killing the Jets. If he is a PR first owner shouldn't he actually do something to win? 

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I’m pretty sure this is what happened this week with Rodgers:

With the beating he took in week 4, I bet he didn’t practice at all.

Maybe a glorified walkthrough and that’s it.

No surprise he was rusty because he probably hadn’t dropped back since his final snap against Denver.

Even if he had practiced, Saleh’s club med vibe makes everything so low intensity it might not have mattered anyway.

Robert Saleh has treated weeks 1 through 5 like the Jets’ preseason, as if the results don’t matter.

Collinsworth said tonight that the Steelers’ Friday practices under Mike Tomlin are more intense than their Wednesday ones.

They go full contact all out in goal line and situational drills because that’s how you actually get better and figure out what will work in a game and what won’t.

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5 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Woody is a PR first owner.  

Winning is secondary.  He'll always take the back page moves even if it's not in the long term best interest of the organization.  

 

He doesn't make splashy player acquisitions because he wants the publicity - he does it because he's a shallow, insecure man who bolsters his self-esteem by collecting trophies, like NFL franchises, star players, ambassadorships, gaudy necklaces and the hot blonde trophy wife he married in 2009. I think it's evident he desperately wants to add a Super Bowl trophy to the list, so yeah, I think winning is his top priority. Unfortunately, underlining everything is the fact that he's an idiot, so the choices he makes in pursuit of that goal are what make all of us Jets fans so miserable.

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This lost was solely on Rodgers. Breece Hall and the running game is trash so if you want to make that blame, I'm willing to listen
I'm glad you're willing to listen .. this loss lies at the feet of Robert Salad, Nate Hackett, and Rodgers ... Maybe the OL ... Though I'm not sure about that

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1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I’m pretty sure this is what happened this week with Rodgers:

With the beating he took in week 4, I bet he didn’t practice at all.

Maybe a glorified walkthrough and that’s it.

No surprise he was rusty because he probably hadn’t dropped back since his final snap against Denver.

Even if he had practiced, Saleh’s club med vibe makes everything so low intensity it might not have mattered anyway.

Robert Saleh has treated weeks 1 through 5 like the Jets’ preseason, as if the results don’t matter.

Collinsworth said tonight that the Steelers’ Friday practices under Mike Tomlin are more intense than their Wednesday ones.

They go full contact all out in goal line and situational drills because that’s how you actually get better and figure out what will work in a game and what won’t.

This is a complete s*** show 

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2 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I’m pretty sure this is what happened this week with Rodgers:

With the beating he took in week 4, I bet he didn’t practice at all.

Maybe a glorified walkthrough and that’s it.

No surprise he was rusty because he probably hadn’t dropped back since his final snap against Denver.

Even if he had practiced, Saleh’s club med vibe makes everything so low intensity it might not have mattered anyway.

Robert Saleh has treated weeks 1 through 5 like the Jets’ preseason, as if the results don’t matter.

Collinsworth said tonight that the Steelers’ Friday practices under Mike Tomlin are more intense than their Wednesday ones.

They go full contact all out in goal line and situational drills because that’s how you actually get better and figure out what will work in a game and what won’t.

Tomlin has never had a losing season in 17 years as a HC. Think about that. And he’s had some dogsh*t talent (i.e., QB) for several of those years. I actually rank Tomlin as in-realm with Reid as a HC — obviously Reid is better in some areas (crucially, QB development) — but Tomlin and Reid are the top 2 HCs in the NFL today and I don’t think #3 is even close. 

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16 hours ago, GregButtleFan said:

I really don’t understand the Hackett blame. Yes he sucks, but this is the guy Rodgers wants. All the slings and arrows should be pointed at AR8 for the last two games.

I will say Keith Carter as OL coach/running game coordinator is as bad as it gets. 

It comes from the top, saleh.  He has to lead and I believe many players, especially the vets, have tuned him out.  I think he gets along with the defense because they’re his boys and defensive players have a different mindset than offense.  If anything he’s built a huge chasm between the offense and defense.  It’s surprising that they haven’t started harping on each other, at least publicly.

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6 hours ago, RevisIsland610 said:

The media and fans are killing the Jets. If he is a PR first owner shouldn't he actually do something to win? 

Woody clips coupons during Jets game.  Woody didn’t lose yesterday.

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2 hours ago, jgb said:

I could see Hackett getting tossed mid-season but very unlikely Saleh is.

At this point it might be the right idea. But then they would need a top flight guy and saleh would have to stand back a lot more than he has.  No telling how much influence on how the offense play.  I think with milfy he had near zero.  With Hackett I think he is mandating a no risk offense so we see plays that don’t do much.  And worse they allow the defense to basically stack the box on every play.  That’s got to be tough on an oline that has only played together for five games now.

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16 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Paul Hackett was dink and dunk w/ Pennington.

Nate Hackett is dink and dunk w/ Rodgers.

No explosive plays down the field ever.  Heck we dont even attempt any explosives down the field.

Paul Hackett at least knew how to design a trap block or seal the edge on a loaded box so you could actually run the ball for 4 yards.

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Tomlin has never had a losing season in 17 years as a HC. Think about that. And he’s had some dogsh*t talent (i.e., QB) for several of those years. I actually rank Tomlin as in-realm with Reid as a HC — obviously Reid is better in some areas (crucially, QB development) — but Tomlin and Reid are the top 2 HCs in the NFL today and I don’t think #3 is even close. 
Wasn't there a point where Tomlin was floated as a trade target ? He is the exact kind of coach we need.

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Paul Hackett at least knew how to design a trap block or seal the edge on a loaded box so you could actually run the ball for 4 yards.
Please Nate Hackett doesn't even know what a Counter is ... He's all HB Dive. Let's not get into why ZERO plays are reverses or misdirection.

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1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

Wasn't there a point where Tomlin was floated as a trade target ? He is the exact kind of coach we need.

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Unfortunately for us the Rooneys aren’t as stupid as the Woody.

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5 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I’m pretty sure this is what happened this week with Rodgers:

With the beating he took in week 4, I bet he didn’t practice at all.

Maybe a glorified walkthrough and that’s it.

No surprise he was rusty because he probably hadn’t dropped back since his final snap against Denver.

Even if he had practiced, Saleh’s club med vibe makes everything so low intensity it might not have mattered anyway.

Robert Saleh has treated weeks 1 through 5 like the Jets’ preseason, as if the results don’t matter.

Collinsworth said tonight that the Steelers’ Friday practices under Mike Tomlin are more intense than their Wednesday ones.

They go full contact all out in goal line and situational drills because that’s how you actually get better and figure out what will work in a game and what won’t.

Wednesday and Friday practices are the nothing part of practice.

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3 hours ago, BP said:

He’s too busy being inspired by coach Saleh and figuring out how much he should raise ticket prices 

That just reeks of  Lord of the manor speaking to the plebes 

Or Steve buscemi greeting fellow kids in high school hallway 

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5 hours ago, BroadwayRay said:

He doesn't make splashy player acquisitions because he wants the publicity - he does it because he's a shallow, insecure man who bolsters his self-esteem by collecting trophies, like NFL franchises, star players, ambassadorships, gaudy necklaces and the hot blonde trophy wife he married in 2009. I think it's evident he desperately wants to add a Super Bowl trophy to the list, so yeah, I think winning is his top priority. Unfortunately, underlining everything is the fact that he's an idiot, so the choices he makes in pursuit of that goal are what make all of us Jets fans so miserable.

🏆🏆🏆This. So much this. Someone who inherited wealth and has no clue how to accomplish anything. 

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9 hours ago, Xtina said:

What do you base this prediction on?

Oh, I don’t know. Let’s see,

A former MVP quarterback

A good Offensive line

talent at the WR position and a good TE

This offence has only played 5 games vs real defences and might the only crappy defence they’ve played were the Pats ( I thought I’d never write that)

give it time

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3 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

Oh, I don’t know. Let’s see,

A former MVP quarterback

A good Offensive line

talent at the WR position and a good TE

This offence has only played 5 games vs real defences and might the only crappy defence they’ve played were the Pats ( I thought I’d never write that)

give it time

lol

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3 hours ago, jgb said:

Tomlin has never had a losing season in 17 years as a HC. Think about that. And he’s had some dogsh*t talent (i.e., QB) for several of those years. I actually rank Tomlin as in-realm with Reid as a HC — obviously Reid is better in some areas (crucially, QB development) — but Tomlin and Reid are the top 2 HCs in the NFL today and I don’t think #3 is even close. 

Can he run the stairs of each stadium?  How’s his golf game???

THAT is what I want to know. 

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40 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

Oh, I don’t know. Let’s see,

A former MVP quarterback

A good Offensive line

talent at the WR position and a good TE

This offence has only played 5 games vs real defences and might the only crappy defence they’ve played were the Pats ( I thought I’d never write that)

give it time

How much time are we supposed to give it?  5 games might be an insignificant amount of time in regular season baseball but NOT in the NFL.

And if we have hopes of a deep playoff run, is the idea that we're hoping to go up against weak defenses (so that our offense can look functional)?!  Shouldn't the good defenses ever be forced to say "well, the Jets' offense is really good.  We can't be expected to shut them down"?!

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I've said it before I'll say it again until I run out of air.

Woody, along with 75% of his fellow owners, could care less at the end of the day as to what happens because no matter what, owning an NFL franchise is a license to print money. The last NFL franchise to go bankrupt were the Colts in 1950 ...and they were essentially an expansion team coming over from the AAFC. According to Forbes, the Bucs were the least profitable team in 2022 AND THEY STILL MADE $60,000,000.  

The Jets (or any other NFL franchise) could go back to back 0-17 seasons and people would still go to their games, still buy season tickets, still buy $15 beers, and still buy advertising with them.  An NFL franchise is the only ROI where no matter what you do, how poorly you run it, it seems to still make money.

Woody doesn't give a flying fart what the Jets do at the end of the day.....he just needs to perpetuate some sort of hope so that everyone continues to open their wallets without losing an ounce of sleep. 

It's a shame really, because people like season ticket holders are some of the most loyal, dedicated fans you'll find in professional sports. I truly feel for you all who go to the games, the tailgates and buy the merch because you work your dick off each day to make enough money to do something you truly enjoy.....and the Jets continually fail to do their part to make it even remotely enjoyable. 

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11 minutes ago, The Gun Of Bavaria said:

I've said it before I'll say it again until I run out of air.

Woody, along with 75% of his fellow owners, could care less at the end of the day as to what happens because no matter what, owning an NFL franchise is a license to print money. The last NFL franchise to go bankrupt were the Colts in 1950 ...and they were essentially an expansion team coming over from the AAFC. According to Forbes, the Bucs were the least profitable team in 2022 AND THEY STILL MADE $60,000,000.  

The Jets (or any other NFL franchise) could go back to back 0-17 seasons and people would still go to their games, still buy season tickets, still buy $15 beers, and still buy advertising with them.  An NFL franchise is the only ROI where no matter what you do, how poorly you run it, it seems to still make money.

Woody doesn't give a flying fart what the Jets do at the end of the day.....he just needs to perpetuate some sort of hope so that everyone continues to open their wallets without losing an ounce of sleep. 

It's a shame really, because people like season ticket holders are some of the most loyal, dedicated fans you'll find in professional sports. I truly feel for you all who go to the games, the tailgates and buy the merch because you work your dick off each day to make enough money to do something you truly enjoy.....and the Jets continually fail to do their part to make it even remotely enjoyable. 

Hold back 19% of the broadcast revenue for distribution to playoff teams (4 weeks out of 21 — 19% — are playoffs games). That would be approximately $2 billion divided amongst the 12 playoffs teams — $168M additional per playoff team.

Current league profit share is $300M per team, win or lose.

Of course it’ll never happen because 32 of the richest capitalist families in the US who own football teams love socialism when it comes to preserving their own wealth.

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1 hour ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

Oh, I don’t know. Let’s see,

A former MVP quarterback

A good Offensive line

talent at the WR position and a good TE

This offence has only played 5 games vs real defences and might the only crappy defence they’ve played were the Pats ( I thought I’d never write that)

give it time

So you're basing your prediction that they're going to start winning soon, on the exact same elements that got us to 2-3? 

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