ALL Mike Vick News (Merged 39X)

[Ryno the Jet]

Why? How is this not important? If the NFL does nothing it condones this activity passively. If it condones it, many of the children of the senator's constituency would take it that dog fighting is acceptable behavior. I think that what the Congressman did is a good use of his time and important. And really, how much time did it really take away form other things? AN hour at most?

:thumbup::thumbup:

[Ryno the Jet]

There is alot more going on in the world that I would think take a bit of precedence over some QB and his dog fighting ring.

1) People are being taxed out of their homes

2) The price of gasoline is going through the roof

3) A war

This is just a guy looking to get some face time (as our most politicians). They only care for themselves and helping their friends. 99% of the politicians in this country give a rats @ss about the people.

It is all about filling their pockets and getting the publicity needed to take the next step.

Politicians are, unfortunately, a necessary evil. Those things you listed do take precedence, but this guy has been appointed to a committee to look in on these types of matters. The intention of this letter was to send a message to the NFL making it clear that government officials are well aware of the national media coverage this issue is receiving. We cannot allow our role models to carry on lawlessly without repercussion. There is a reason this crime is a felony. It is a cruel, vile, sick, and inhumane hobby that leads to the innocent deaths of dogs and people; not to mention all the other illegal activity associated with these rings. This is an ever growing problem in our country and when someone of Vick's stature becomes involved, appropriate measures must be evaluated with the highest scrutiny.

[DW10]

There is alot more going on in the world that I would think take a bit of precedence over some QB and his dog fighting ring.

1) People are being taxed out of their homes

2) The price of gasoline is going through the roof

3) A war

This is just a guy looking to get some face time (as our most politicians). They only care for themselves and helping their friends. 99% of the politicians in this country give a rats @ss about the people.

It is all about filling their pockets and getting the publicity needed to take the next step.

ahhhh, that's beautiful. Perfectly said.

[serphnx]

Somehow I get the feeling this thread is going to be locked soon.

Me too. Rhyno is a PETA member, and you know how they get.

[Ryno the Jet]

Me too. Rhyno is a PETA member, and you know how they get.

LOL! I agree with some of their concerns, but I am in no way an advocate of their organization. People Eating Tasty Animals is more my speed, thanks.

serphnx is a "me too" member, and you know how they get...

[Jetheelz]

Vick is a POS, pure and simple. If you are cruel to and abuse animals (such as this), then you are just as bad as the child predator/pedophile in my book.

[124]

Michael Vick should NOT be suspended for a house that so far, according to the facts, he was never at. He may have owned it yes, but obviously he trusted the wrong person but he should not be suspended for it. Now, if it is found out that he was well aware of the activites, we have a different story and Joey Harrington or Chris Redman will be leading the Falcons in '07.

[joiseyjet]

Vick is a POS, pure and simple. If you are cruel to and abuse animals (such as this), then you are just as bad as the child predator/pedophile in my book.

I say just throw him in a pen with 2 other pit bulls & tie a bag of meatballs around his nuts & let the dogs bite them off ,then lets see if he still thinks it`s no big deal

[Ryno the Jet]

Vick is a POS, pure and simple. If you are cruel to and abuse animals (such as this), then you are just as bad as the child predator/pedophile in my book.

I guess you would really be opposed to someone spanking their monkey to child porn then, eh?

LOL, I could not resist, sorry to you personally jetheelz and to the mods...

[Jetheelz]

I say just throw him in a pen with 2 other pit bulls & tie a bag of meatballs around his nuts & let the dogs bite them off ,then lets see if he still thinks it`s no big deal

That is a great idea...I am sure he would change his mind pretty quick.

[124]

Redskins RB Portis: Vick can do what he wants

ESPN.com news services

While prosecutors and the league try to find out if Michael Vick was involved in a dog fighting ring at a Virginia house that he owned, one NFL player says it doesn't matter if he did take part.

"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog," Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis told WAVY-TV in Virginia. "If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business."

When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

Investigators are still trying to determine if crimes were committed and if charges should be filed in the case. Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald Poindexter met on Monday with representatives of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and local authorities to go over evidence in the case.

They had no comment except to say that the investigation is ongoing.

The case began in late April, when police conducting a drug investigation raided the house in rural Surry County and found dozens of dogs. They also found items associated with dog fighting, including a "pry bar" used to pry apart a dog's jaws.

Poindexter said the county seized some 60 dogs from the house. Several dogs had old scars, but by and large, the dogs appeared to be well-cared for, he said.

Redskins defensive lineman Chris Samuels, who was promoting a Redskins fan event with Portis, doesn't want the public to rush to judgment.

"You can't accuse this man of something and go ahead and throw the book at him right now," he told WAVY-TV. "He's got to be convicted first, and I don't think that's fair."

The NFL has shown a willingness to see if animal abuse is a widespread problem in the league, but Portis doesn't think it's an issue.

"You want to hunt down Mike Vick over fighting some dogs?," Portis told the television station. "I think people should mind their own business."

Portis said that dog fighting is more common than people think.

"I know a lot of back roads that have the dog fighting if you want to go see it," he said.

[johnny green balls]

luckily for portis, being a moron isn't a crime.

[SoFlaJets]

another genius friggin speaks out....

"If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business."

When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

[Sperm Edwards]

another genius friggin speaks out....

"If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business."

When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

Here's the interview: click here

[Jet Moses]

Utah in da house! Slap mah fro!

[Barton]

Barton: Portis is a dumba##

[justincredible]

He's never been known for being a bastion of intelligence.

[124]

I know I'm going to get looked upon as an idiot like Portis, but I for one agree. Call me an idiot, call me stupid, call me whatever you'd like but what Michael Vick does off the field is his own business. If the Police & the NFL find out that Vick did know about the fights being held, then he deserves a suspension or fine of some sort, but only because of the new league conduct policy. People do need to stop making such a big deal about it though. It is not worse then humans shooting / paralyzing other humans. *cough* Pacman Jones *cough*

[CrazyCarl40]

Wait which of Portis' personalities said this? The other ones cannot be held accountable.

[Bugg]

Problem is this is all grandstanding nonsense. It's the same with steroids and baseball-sure it's a "problem", but why is COngress involved? Seems like a serious lack of priorities in search of a quick and easy headline. Again, not saying Vick isn't a POS.But Daddy Government has a really hard time delivering the mail. If the local authorities decide to prosecute him, by all means, good for them.

[jetophile]

I know I'm going to get looked upon as an idiot like Portis, but I for one agree. Call me an idiot, call me stupid, call me whatever you'd like but what Michael Vick does off the field is his own business. If the Police & the NFL find out that Vick did know about the fights being held, then he deserves a suspension or fine of some sort, but only because of the new league conduct policy. People do need to stop making such a big deal about it though. It is not worse then humans shooting / paralyzing other humans. *cough* Pacman Jones *cough*

What he does off the field is his own business? Um, no, and WOW. You stand corrected in the worst way. Dog fighting is illegal. And, it's illegal GAMBLING, thanks. Of which he lied to his higher ups about to top it off - thus far. League conduct policy and illegal gambling don't go hand in hand. And, it has nothing to do with the court of public opinion. "We don't have all the facts!" OK, I'll concede that; but if he is found guilty of ILLEGAL GAMBLING, he belongs in a dustbin collecting lint. And Goodell better have some b*lls about it. I'd like to think I hear taps playing, but time will tell. Don't assume folks are equating the lives of dogs with humans. It's an abhorrent practice, plain and simple. There's no disputing that there's something deeply wrong with someone/anyone who 'enjoys' watching and fostering a 'sport' where animals rip and bleed each other to death. Let's be real here.

[jetophile]

Not that I don't think is an issue, but Congress should worry about immigration and the average citizen bull-dozing the House with power equipment first in response. It's an outrage already.

[Thai Jet]

I say just throw him in a pen with 2 other pit bulls & tie a bag of meatballs around his nuts & let the dogs bite them off ,then lets see if he still thinks it`s no big deal

I like your line of thinking. Let the punishment fit the crime.

[Barton]

I know I'm going to get looked upon as an idiot like Portis, but I for one agree. Call me an idiot, call me stupid, call me whatever you'd like but what Michael Vick does off the field is his own business. If the Police & the NFL find out that Vick did know about the fights being held, then he deserves a suspension or fine of some sort, but only because of the new league conduct policy. People do need to stop making such a big deal about it though. It is not worse then humans shooting / paralyzing other humans. *cough* Pacman Jones *cough*

When what he does off the field is illegal in all 50 states, it aint just his business anymore.

With that logic, I guess he can committ rape on underage girls at his house and that would be ok, because its in the "privacy of his own home". Portis is a dumbf#!*, and Vick is a stupid punka##.

[124]

What a player does off the field is none of our business until he is caught and yes Vick's property was caught fielding dogs who were being breed for fighting but there is still no evidence that Vick knew of what was going on. Either way, he has money. Like OJ, he will get away with something minimal if found guilty.

[jetophile]

What a player does off the field is none of our business until he is caught and yes Vick's property was caught fielding dogs who were being breed for fighting but there is still no evidence that Vick knew of what was going on. Either way, he has money. Like OJ, he will get away with something minimal if found guilty.

Do you get your own implication or not?

[joiseyjet]

When what he does off the field is illegal in all 50 states, it aint just his business anymore.

With that logic, I guess he can committ rape on underage girls at his house and that would be ok, because its in the "privacy of his own home". Portis is a dumbf#!*, and Vick is a stupid punka##.

This statement by Portis was as smart as Giambi`s statement of I did stuff!!! Maybe the NFL should take a closer look at Portis also, maybe he has cash invested in these dogs ,training,bettting or selling ,that brilliant statement makes me think portis has some interest in keeping the cops & media away from Vicks house...

[CoachTsurfing]

I know I'm going to get looked upon as an idiot like Portis, but I for one agree. Call me an idiot, call me stupid, call me whatever you'd like but what Michael Vick does off the field is his own business. If the Police & the NFL find out that Vick did know about the fights being held, then he deserves a suspension or fine of some sort, but only because of the new league conduct policy. People do need to stop making such a big deal about it though. It is not worse then humans shooting / paralyzing other humans. *cough* Pacman Jones *cough*

Yeah you are going to get beat up on this one. Not too much by me though. I kind of agree that pac man did more wrong, but it is wrong to make animals fight each other. Kind of barbaric only because it's not their own will. I'm not a pita person or anything, I love my big fat burgers on Sundays, but dogs weren't put here to fight for our enjoyment. Now if people want to throw down fight club style. I say go for it. People have that choice. But I see where you are coming from.

[bitonti]

in china they eat dogs

in india they revere cows

it's all relative

[Sperm Edwards]

in china they eat dogs

in india they revere cows

it's all relative

We do not live in China or India & neither the NFL nor US law apply there. Dog fighting is against the law here. It is neither the NFL's job nor place to decide which laws it holds its players accountable to.

If it is determined that Vick had no involvement (or at least no known involvement), then he's got nothing to worry about. But I'm fairly certain he knows it's against the law & if he was involved he deserves to pay the price like anyone else.

[LWC611]

I know I'm going to get looked upon as an idiot like Portis, but I for one agree. Call me an idiot, call me stupid, call me whatever you'd like but what Michael Vick does off the field is his own business. If the Police & the NFL find out that Vick did know about the fights being held, then he deserves a suspension or fine of some sort, but only because of the new league conduct policy. People do need to stop making such a big deal about it though. It is not worse then humans shooting / paralyzing other humans. *cough* Pacman Jones *cough*

I strongly disagree, if accept that position, then if a player wants to be a drug dealer off of the field I guess that would be ok too. NFL players and athletes in general just do not understand that they are not only clebreties that people look up to but, they are also the property of someone else and they are expected not to engage in activitites that would keep them from perfoming as compensated.

[Jetheelz]

Portis shows he is no better than Vick with this moronic statement. Once again I say Michael Vick and anyone else who knowingly participates in activities like this is a total POS, and nothing will ever change my mind about it.

Only a lowlife scumbag engages in things like this against animals..and it takes an even worse individual to do it for their own profit.

[Sperm Edwards]

Portis shows he is no better than Vick with this moronic statement. Once again I say Michael Vick and anyone else who knowingly participates in activities like this is a total POS, and nothing will ever change my mind about it.

Only a lowlife scumbag engages in things like this against animals..and it takes an even worse individual to do it for their own profit.

If only Superman were here...

[Jetheelz]

If only Superman were here...

He would take care of business, youd better believe it.

[SeniorFlaJet]

We do not live in China or India & neither the NFL nor US law apply there. Dog fighting is against the law here. It is neither the NFL's job nor place to decide which laws it holds its players accountable to.

If it is determined that Vick had no involvement (or at least no known involvement), then he's got nothing to worry about. But I'm fairly certain he knows it's against the law & if he was involved he deserves to pay the price like anyone else.

I agree with you that he knew what was going on. People can spin it

anyway they want that he hasn't been convicted yet, and I need evidence and blah

blah blah.

Even if he gets away with it because of his stature, PETA won't let him forget

about it. They will probably picket the stadiums he plays in and continue to

make his life miserable. And the fans in the other stadiums will also remind him

about it.

As I have said before I have been involved with Humane Societys a lot in my

life and I have seen abuse of dogs and cats. There is enough evidence in my

mind to hope that this guy gets whats coming to him.