MasonJet Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 With an RBI single in the 1st inning, Derek Jeter tied Joe Dimaggio with 2,214 career hits, good for 5th on the Yankees all-time list. He's so overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Meaningless RBI single, right guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 Well Matt he may be hitting .360, but he hits so many singles that it doesn't even count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Jose reyes doesn't get 2000 hits in his career, watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Jose reyes doesn't get 2000 hits in his career, watch please....the only way Reyes doesn't get 2,000 hits is if he's not healthy. Hell, the guy will probably get 800 infield singles alone with his wheels. Reyes is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 please....the only way Reyes doesn't get 2,000 hits is if he's not healthy. Hell, the guy will probably get 800 infield singles alone with his wheels. Reyes is awesome. I know I'm just messing with the mess fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Derek Jeter has a shot to be 36 year old when he gets his 3,000 career hit. That is sick. If he stayed productive until he was 39 he could be over 3,500 hits at that time. I think the worst case scenario for Derek is that he retires a first ballot hall of famer with only these guys having more career hits than he does: Pete Rose, Ty Cobb, Hank Aaron, Stan Musial. But he has a real good chance to surpass Aaron (3,771) and Musial (3,660). Injuries or the clap could change this. But this is where he projects right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 With an RBI single in the 1st inning, Derek Jeter tied Joe Dimaggio with 2,214 career hits, good for 5th on the Yankees all-time list. He's so overrated. He is. You all gush over him being a greta leader, but he has continually let A-Rod get slammed. You say he is a great defensive SS. When in fact he is average at best Gold Gloves or no gold gloves. Jeter is one of the alltime greats, but alot of his hype is just because he is in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 He is. You all gush over him being a greta leader, but he has continually let A-Rod get slammed. You say he is a great defensive SS. When in fact he is average at best Gold Gloves or no gold gloves. Jeter is one of the alltime greats, but alot of his hype is just because he is in NY. What, so if Jeter says the magic words idiotic journalists will stop being idiotic journalists? Wouldn't count on it. You can harp about his defense all you want. I started to become a baseball fan at about the same time Jeter was coming into the league and have watched him play more games than I can remember. He has made a ton of great plays and year in and year out just plays great baseball all the time. It's hilarious to me that Boston fans still think he's overrated, but it's obviously just a sign of, well, I won't make a personal attack but you can use your imagination. The guy is a 1st-ballot Hall of Famer. How exactly is he overrated again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbok Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 congrats to jeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 He is. You all gush over him being a greta leader, but he has continually let A-Rod get slammed. You say he is a great defensive SS. When in fact he is average at best Gold Gloves or no gold gloves. Jeter is one of the alltime greats, but alot of his hype is just because he is in NY. He has a shot to retire top 3 in hits with possibly 5+ rings. He has never been in an ounce of trouble. He is an ambassador for the game during a time that they needed a role model. But you are right. Nomar will always be better. Steroids or not he is just better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 He is. You all gush over him being a greta leader, but he has continually let A-Rod get slammed. You say he is a great defensive SS. When in fact he is average at best Gold Gloves or no gold gloves. Jeter is one of the alltime greats, but alot of his hype is just because he is in NY. Sorry..I call bull**** You are going by recent history,not overall history. he would be a great player no matter where he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 He has a shot to retire top 3 in hits with possibly 5+ rings. He has never been in an ounce of trouble. He is an ambassador for the game during a time that they needed a role model. But you are right. Nomar will always be better. Steroids or not he is just better. LOL Max at Nomar. Ah yes "Nomar is better" those were the days. I just hope wherever he is he can fiddle with his batting gloves in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 that looked like a triple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 A perfect example of Jeter's greatness there. It's a 6-1 game in the 7th inning and he is thinking triple from the getgo, and he gets it easily with a headfirst slide into 3rd base. Anybody who whines about this guy being overrated is clearly just jealous he's not on their favorite team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidhuman Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Congrats DJ. If anyone will challenge Roses hits record it is this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloogy Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 He is. You all gush over him being a greta leader, but he has continually let A-Rod get slammed. You say he is a great defensive SS. When in fact he is average at best Gold Gloves or no gold gloves. Jeter is one of the alltime greats, but alot of his hype is just because he is in NY. You're probably one of *********Edited by Max. Make your point without personal attacks ************** that was telling us how much better Nomaaaa was than Jeter in the late 90's. Guess what, you and the rest of the Sux nation was wrong. Your prized SS doesn't even play for your team anymore. How many rings does he have ? Jeter already has 4 more rings than Teddy the Death experiment, Jim RiceaRoni, Dwight Evans, Yaz the Fat, and many other Red Sux so called legends. He will be a first ballot hall of famer. Non steroid user and winner of multiple world series rings. He will also have the prestige of retiring a Yankee, which is worth more than any bloody sock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 What, so if Jeter says the magic words idiotic journalists will stop being idiotic journalists? Wouldn't count on it. You can harp about his defense all you want. I started to become a baseball fan at about the same time Jeter was coming into the league and have watched him play more games than I can remember. He has made a ton of great plays and year in and year out just plays great baseball all the time. It's hilarious to me that Boston fans still think he's overrated, but it's obviously just a sign of, well, I won't make a personal attack but you can use your imagination. The guy is a 1st-ballot Hall of Famer. How exactly is he overrated again? He is. No doubt. Manny makes some great plays in the outfiled also. Just because you make some nice plays does not make you a great fielder. Jeter's fielding stats are at the league average for his career. He is an average defensive SS. He did not deserve last year's GG and you can make arguments he did not deserve the ones in 2004 and 2005. It was probably a popularity contest and he won. Being in NY he is blown-up larger then life. If he was playing for Pittsburgh, would he be as great? No. Brady is Jeter is Brady. They are not the most talented at their positions, but I know there is no one I want to see less coming up with the game on the line then Jeter. Overatedness is relative. I am not taking anything away from Jeter then the smoke being blown up his ass by Yankee fans that say he is a great defensive SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 He is. No doubt. Manny makes some great plays in the outfiled also. Just because you make some nice plays does not make you a great fielder. Jeter's fielding stats are at the league average for his career. He is an average defensive SS. He did not deserve last year's GG and you can make arguments he did not deserve the ones in 2004 and 2005. It was probably a popularity contest and he won. Being in NY he is blown-up larger then life. If he was playing for Pittsburgh, would he be as great? No. Brady is Jeter is Brady. They are not the most talented at their positions, but I know there is no one I want to see less coming up with the game on the line then Jeter. Overatedness is relative. I am not taking anything away from Jeter then the smoke being blown up his ass by Yankee fans that say he is a great defensive SS. Well said. The funny part is ARod as a power hitter has only 100 less hits but 300 more HR's, 500 more RBI's, more runs scored, more base on balls, about the same amount of SB's and is/was a better defensive SS but wasn't lucky enough to be part of the 96-2000 Yanks. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 With an RBI single in the 1st inning, Derek Jeter tied Joe Dimaggio with 2,214 career hits, good for 5th on the Yankees all-time list. He's so overrated. Well done by Jeter. I have the utmost respect for the guy. He's a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 He is. No doubt. Manny makes some great plays in the outfiled also. Just because you make some nice plays does not make you a great fielder. Jeter's fielding stats are at the league average for his career. He is an average defensive SS. He did not deserve last year's GG and you can make arguments he did not deserve the ones in 2004 and 2005. It was probably a popularity contest and he won. Being in NY he is blown-up larger then life. If he was playing for Pittsburgh, would he be as great? No. Brady is Jeter is Brady. They are not the most talented at their positions, but I know there is no one I want to see less coming up with the game on the line then Jeter. Overatedness is relative. I am not taking anything away from Jeter then the smoke being blown up his ass by Yankee fans that say he is a great defensive SS. We never said he was a great defensive SS. Guys like you have said he is a below average SS. We won the debate the second we proved he was average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 its cool, although nowhere near indicates that Jeter will or should go down as a top 5 Yankee legend though. ruth, gehrig, mantle, dimaggio, dickey, berra, ford, mattingly, rivera those names go ahead of him i'd say jeter is ahead of: roger maris (sure, he had the HR record but he faded after winning back to back MVPs and had a short Yankee career), reggie jackson (look at his NLCS stats in his career, and he was at his best in Oakland), ron guidry (2nd best starter in Yankee history?), bernie williams (who may sign with a new team i hear???), andy pettite, tony lazzeri, jorge posada, elston howard, thurmon munson, phil rizzuto, george selkirk, earle combs, red ruffing and a thousand other guys. then theres the guys who had decent success in their stops to NY but won't be viewed as Yankees, like Rickey henderson (Athletics/traveler/San Diego Surfdog), A-rod (Mariner), Roger Clemens (Red Sock), Mike Mussina (Oriole), Johnny Mize (Cardinal/Giant) etc. and then theres the guys who were scrubs but were able to make game impacting hits to earn them fan credibility like Bucky Dent and Aaron Boone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotch-Rocket Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Jose reyes doesn't get 2000 hits in his career, watch And it's the Mets fans obsessed with the Yankees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 We never said he was a great defensive SS. Guys like you have said he is a below average SS. We won the debate the second we proved he was average. Talk about selective memory. Max that you admit he is average is proof we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 its cool, although nowhere near indicates that Jeter will or should go down as a top 5 Yankee legend though. ruth, gehrig, mantle, dimaggio, dickey, berra, ford, mattingly, rivera those names go ahead of him i'd say Mattingly? Are you kidding? I thought you were self-banned from the baseball forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Talk about selective memory. Max that you admit he is average is proof we won. I never admitted he was only average. I was just saying that we proved he was at least average and in the process proved you wrong. Not a hard thing to do. But still noteworthy regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 anyone know where I could be able to see the all-time lists? like hits and home runs.. for the yankees of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 anyone know where I could be able to see the all-time lists? like hits and home runs.. for the yankees of course. You can find it here. It's not the complete list but this is a pretty good website for baseball history stuff. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/leaders_bat.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I never admitted he was only average. I was just saying that we proved he was at least average and in the process proved you wrong. Not a hard thing to do. But still noteworthy regardless. You never said he was just average. You said, He was great. If Jeter's great was considered average, then Nomar would have about 10 GGs by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 You never said he was just average. You said, He was great. If Jeter's great was considered average, then Nomar would have about 10 GGs by now. To be fair, Nomar was never a great fielder either. His last year was absolutely painful to watch. But when he was healthy, he was twice the hitter Jeter could ever hope to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 To be fair, Nomar was never a great fielder either. His last year was absolutely painful to watch. But when he was healthy, he was twice the hitter Jeter could ever hope to be. I know. Once Jeter won the first GG, he was labeled as a great fielder. In 2004 (his first GG)and 2005, you can make arguments he deserved, but you can make arguments other people deserve it. Last year, was pure robbery as Michael Young deserved it and Peralta and Uribe had better years by alot over Jeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I know. Once Jeter won the first GG, he was labeled as a great fielder. In 2004 (his first GG)and 2005, you can make arguments he deserved, but you can make arguments other people deserve it. Last year, was pure robbery as Michael Young deserved it and Peralta and Uribe had better years by alot over Jeter. The GG is alot like the NFL Pro Bowl selection process. Once you're in, you really have to screw up to be left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ECURB Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Jeter will pass Pete Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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