Green DNA Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Without a doubt the roughing the punter call. The Jets had just scored a TD and held the Steelers to a 3 and out with 9 minutes left in the third quarter. The momentum had shifted big time in the Jets favor and had we managed to score on that possession I am convinced we win this game going away. As it turns out, the Steelers managed to kill a good chunk of the third quarter after that play, and the rest is history unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Without a doubt the roughing the punter call. The Jets had just scored a TD and held the Steelers to a 3 and out with 9 minutes left in the third quarter. The momentum had shifted big time in the Jets favor and had we managed to score on that possession I am convinced we win this game going away. As it turns out, the Steelers managed to kill a good chunk of the third quarter after that play, and the rest is history unfortunately. I hear you buddy. Westerman must have taken his eyes off the ball because he was there in time and had the right angle to block it. He just didn't get his hand on the football. Talk about a game of inches. If he'd gotten one finger on the ball it would have fired us up more than we already where and negated the penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I hear you buddy. Westerman must have taken his eyes off the ball because he was there in time and had the right angle to block it. He just didn't get his hand on the football. Talk about a game of inches. If he'd gotten one finger on the ball it would have fired us up more than we already where and negated the penalty. also what about Brodney trying to swat the ball instead of just getting his hand in front of it on the 1st 3rd down play there at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 also, not for nothing but if we had gotten a call or 2...Smith's PF. Harrison jumping on Sanchez, Farrior's helmet 2 helmet-the D-Brick phantom FS...we got NO breaks from Hoculi and his minions and I really thought we would going in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Without a doubt the roughing the punter call. The Jets had just scored a TD and held the Steelers to a 3 and out with 9 minutes left in the third quarter. The momentum had shifted big time in the Jets favor and had we managed to score on that possession I am convinced we win this game going away. As it turns out, the Steelers managed to kill a good chunk of the third quarter after that play, and the rest is history unfortunately. 100% agree. That was the biggest play during the comeback. When you get down by 24, things have to break just right and this error cost us a lot time on the clock that we ended up needing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Without a doubt the roughing the punter call. The Jets had just scored a TD and held the Steelers to a 3 and out with 9 minutes left in the third quarter. The momentum had shifted big time in the Jets favor and had we managed to score on that possession I am convinced we win this game going away. As it turns out, the Steelers managed to kill a good chunk of the third quarter after that play, and the rest is history unfortunately. That was big. Of course it wouldn't have come down to that if Wilson caught the ball instead of having it bounce off his facemask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 That was big. Of course it wouldn't have come down to that if Wilson caught the ball instead of having it bounce off his facemask. we're really going to need a lot more out of our 2010 and 2011 draft classes this year. T-Rich should be moved upstairs and Conner take over-McKnight has to get some of the plays that LT did this year-he was a disappointment in my estimation from what I saw why not more green-what are we saving him for anyway? Wilson? very meh year and Vlad was either inactive or invisible since playing Adrian Clarke and almost getting Sanchez killed in pre-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donboyO Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The Kickoff return by Antonio Brown was also key, got past 40 yd line, Had ST's played better, Steelers play calls may have been more conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The Kickoff return by Antonio Brown was also key, got past 40 yd line, Had ST's played better, Steelers play calls may have been more conservative. If Folk could have kicked it past the 20, maybe he wouldn't have made it out to the 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Oh man this loss is more painful than I realized. I cringed (and agreed) with every single post in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon63 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 After rewinding it many times, it looked like he DID touch the ball ever so slightly. If you look at a high-quality, very slow replay, you can see the ball shift a bit when it looks like he hits it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLguerriero1 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 he also wasnt touched.. he sort of slipped because he expected to be blocked.. had he just ran in cleanly it was a block for 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkiss24 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I know we all wished we ran from the 1 yard line on that dismal possession, but Keller should have caught that ball. It was in his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I hear you buddy. Westerman must have taken his eyes off the ball because he was there in time and had the right angle to block it. He just didn't get his hand on the football. Talk about a game of inches. If he'd gotten one finger on the ball it would have fired us up more than we already where and negated the penalty. They always say that you have to dive for the area just in front of the foot to block successfully. He went for the foot and th ball got by. They did not score there but it did slow the momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 lol so many mistakes. The Jets really did this to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Oh man this loss is more painful than I realized. I cringed (and agreed) with every single post in this thread. Man, me too. I think i was doing okay till I opened this thread. Now I'm kinda pissed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 This thread is making me sick all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 This thread is making me sick all over again. Yes it is and not showing up the first half lost the game not 1 specific play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 This thread is making me sick all over again. nice avatar... makes me the opposite of sick re: the thread, I know we made it close at the end, but we lost that game in the firt half imo.. Steelers played like they had the game won, and as soon as we go within striking distance, they made the plays needed to win.. had the steelers not been up 21, I don't think they back off and let sanchez chuck it all around the field in the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes it is and not showing up the first half lost the game not 1 specific play. Word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 All the Jets had to do was make 1 stop with 1:00 + left and get the ball back in Sanchez' hand. We've been doing it all year there is no doubt in my mind we wouldve scored a TD and won in the last second. Oh well. Defense sucked a$$ in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Great new avatar, Verde! re: the thread, I know we made it close at the end, but we lost that game in the firt half imo.. Steelers played like they had the game won, and as soon as we go within striking distance, they made the plays needed to win.. had the steelers not been up 21, I don't think they back off and let sanchez chuck it all around the field in the second half The Jets lost the game in the first half without question. At 24-0 the game was over. The Jets needed to play a perfect second half in order to have a chance to win and I knew they couldn't do that. So, like you mentioned yesterday, CTM, I was sorta over this loss at halftime. The Jets had to play perfect in 2nd half and couldn't do it. As to roughing the kicker, I blame Westoff. Just get the freakin' ball back. You stopped them. Don't go for the block. There was a lot of bad coaching going around in the game, not just by Schitty. Also, I feel like starting a new thread on this but I'm lazy. We can all complain about what happened for different reasons, but ultimately I believe it comes down to this: the lack of a top 3-4 NT in the game. Look at the 3-4 teams that played in the playoffs. Ravens have Ngata, Steelers have Hampton, Pats have Wilfork, and Packers have Raji. There is HUGE disparity between those players and Pouha. That, above all, needs to be addressed in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes it is and not showing up the first half lost the game not 1 specific play. True, but this thread is about the comeback and sticking a pin in the momentum balloon. BTW, it gives me comfort knowing that the douchebag Steelers fans that left me negative rep will be drying their tears with those faggy towels after the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 True, but this thread is about the comeback and sticking a pin in the momentum balloon. BTW, it gives me comfort knowing that the douchebag Steelers fans that left me negative rep will be drying their tears with those faggy towels after the Super Bowl. I hate those a$$ wiping towels. I hate when the NYJETS give them out also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 an almost 10 minute opening drive by the Steelers......I knew we were in trouble after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 an almost 10 minute opening drive by the Steelers......I knew we were in trouble after that. I said the same thing to my crowd. Not a good way to start a playoff game on the road no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 also, not for nothing but if we had gotten a call or 2...Smith's PF. Harrison jumping on Sanchez, Farrior's helmet 2 helmet-the D-Brick phantom FS...we got NO breaks from Hoculi and his minions and I really thought we would going in They all piss me off, the Sanchez hit was obvious... The Brick false start was dumb as hell. Three Steelers jump into the backfield, then begin to point at Brick. 2 seconds later, a flag is thrown on him for a false start. Why did it take that long? I have to think because it didn't happen. Look at the replay, what did Brick do... blink???? I mean you couldn't see any movement at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 That was big. Of course it wouldn't have come down to that if Wilson caught the ball instead of having it bounce off his facemask. Agree. What looks like the "critical failure" is really just the last opportunity missed before it becomes too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Great new avatar, Verde! The Jets lost the game in the first half without question. At 24-0 the game was over. The Jets needed to play a perfect second half in order to have a chance to win and I knew they couldn't do that. So, like you mentioned yesterday, CTM, I was sorta over this loss at halftime. The Jets had to play perfect in 2nd half and couldn't do it. As to roughing the kicker, I blame Westoff. Just get the freakin' ball back. You stopped them. Don't go for the block. There was a lot of bad coaching going around in the game, not just by Schitty. Also, I feel like starting a new thread on this but I'm lazy. We can all complain about what happened for different reasons, but ultimately I believe it comes down to this: the lack of a top 3-4 NT in the game. Look at the 3-4 teams that played in the playoffs. Ravens have Ngata, Steelers have Hampton, Pats have Wilfork, and Packers have Raji. There is HUGE disparity between those players and Pouha. That, above all, needs to be addressed in the offseason. I couldn't disagree more that NT was a major reason we lost the game. If we want to point toward the defenses, our OLB are crap compared to the Steelers and Ravens. Bryan Thomas' garbage a$$ was getting blocked 15 yards down the field into the end zone by Heath Miller. That was a microcosm of the game. Just embarrassing. By the way, Bryan Thomas needs to go. He is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I blame Woody If Woody had gone to the police...this would never have happened. Note: you must be old to get that joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 there were any number of plays that derailed the comeback. the trick is to not get down 24 in the first place. In the cold, on the road etc... it's a tough nut to crack. and who is to blame for that... the D obviously for giving up the points but the O for not doing much with the ball when they had a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 there were any number of plays that derailed the comeback. the trick is to not get down 24 in the first place. In the cold, on the road etc... it's a tough nut to crack. and who is to blame for that... the D obviously for giving up the points but the O for not doing much with the ball when they had a chance. The defense gave up a 10 minute drive to begin the game....there's really nothing else to blame. Scott, Harris, Pace and Thomas were all awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The defense gave up a 10 minute drive to begin the game....there's really nothing else to blame. Scott, Harris, Pace and Thomas were all awful. granted... but if the Offense answers back to make it 7-7 it's a different game. You can't be an underdog team, get dominated in the first half in every phase of the game and wonder what play in the 4th quarter doomed the comeback. Once they were down by more than 3 scores the comeback was a low percentage outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 granted... but if the Offense answers back to make it 7-7 it's a different game. You can't be an underdog team, get dominated in the first half in every phase of the game and wonder what play in the 4th quarter doomed the comeback. Once they were down by more than 3 scores the comeback was a low percentage outcome. well, yeah. But the defense getting trampled on the opening possession pretty much set the tone for the entire game. If you're going to defer on the road, you better get the ball back sooner rather than later. Once Pittsburgh scored that first TD- they were out for blood. The tone for the entire game was set. Its extremely difficult for an offense, on the road, at Heinz field, to answer the bell there. Maybe unless you have Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winB4eyeDIE Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Anyone know what percentage of block attempts that actually work out to the amount of roughing the kicker calls per attempt? Sometimes I feel like its not even worth rushing to block the punt. If you want to hurry the punter, great, but the fact that you can touch the guy with the tip of your fingers and it results in a big penalty, just doesn't seem like a good risk/reward scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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