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#1 bitonti

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

this is an interesting post from a non-Jets board (jan 8). The guy who posts it claims to be a old man with Schefter type NFL connections but without a professional job in the league or media. take it fwiw, but I thought it was notable.

Mike Pettine saved Rex Ryan's job. The basis of the extension offer to Pettine was that the Jets wanted the Ryan scheme and coaching tree but without the actual Ryan media baggage and legacy to Mark Sanchez. Pettine owes his entire career to Rex Ryan. Pettine could have rested on his laurels, from his family football pedigree and been Eric Taylor 3.0. Instead he flushed out a relatively easy path and tenure to handle game tape for the Ravens for pennies. Low level staff in the NFL make nothing. There's a high school kid who works part time at my godson's comic book store that probably made more this week than Pettine then. Ryan picked him out of the crowd and groomed him.

For rejecting the Jets offer, Woody Johnson promptly drove a knife in Pettine's back. Just like he drove one into Tannebaum's back over the Drew Stanton trade. The one time a year that you are allowed to lie baldface and in the open in the NFL is during draft season. No one is telling the truth or only parts of it, so everyone has to let it go, no harm, no foul. Pettine was a known and planned funnel for Jet's specific misinformation to the press to divert attention away from certain draft prospects they liked by making it seemed like they wanted others. Instead Johnson spun it that Pettine was a rat who turned on Ryan and was selling Ryan out to the press because he wanted his job.

Right now Rex Ryan is an emotional wreck in private. Lots of people internally in the league who know him are worried about Ryan, esp as he is not in the mental state to best defend his interests, and instead of Pettine covering his own good name to the press, which would force Ryan to essentially resign for his dignity and forfeit the rest of his contract, Pettine just stood in front of the bullets.

Despite all his misgivings, and save a few malcontents who would be team cancers anywhere, most players want to play and many coaches want to coach for Rex Ryan. Very few NFL coaches reach players to that that ride or die mentality. Rod Marinelli, who sadly struggled as a head coach, his guys would walk through broken glass and landmines for. Mike Zimmer, after his wife died, his players simply willed themselves as a unit to savage anyone in their path, like they were on a personal crusade. Rex Ryan is one of those guys. So very little is made I believe, of Pete Carroll getting his players, there's a lot of talent in Seattle, but it's not particularly overwhelming, to buy in completely. Very few coaches can truly "coach up" when facing a specific level of talent. It's very hard to do at this level. Forget the media pundits and the feet scandal and his overactive mouth in the past, Ryan is one of those guys.

Ryan is a good coach, in the wrong job now, being held onto for the wrong reasons. It's a lot easier to find a new job than it is to be a good coach at this level. Ryan, long term, is going to be fine, it just won't be in NY and he's going to have to wait a few years to find the right path.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

Oh, good.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:27 PM

[ ] Schefter-type NFL connections
[ ] fwiw =/= 0
[ ] Guys who don't have head coaching gigs turn down an offer for the big job in the NFL
[x] Kid at the comic shop is the source

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

when did pettine turn into a rat and try to get rex"s job? I'll take it for what it is - highly unlikely. The normal press would be all over this if this were the case.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:31 PM

i really dont understand this article. Pettine took bullets for Ryan? I dont see how. He turned down the extension. He got a job from under Ryan so he can prove he has the chops and is not some Ryan lackey.

This fvcking article is harder to follow than the movie inception. I think the bad guy is Johnson or is he not since he decided on killing careers during the draft? Rex is in trouble? Or is he not since he gets more out of players than they are worth? fml...

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

Its open season for a 6-10 team struggling to find a GM. I am sure by the time its all said and done we will see like 1275467879923345 such articles!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:41 PM


[x] Kid at the comic shop is the source


it's funny and he writes in a crazy fashion but the guy makes interesting posts about every NFL team not just the Jets.

my interpretation of that post is the Jets wanted to fire Rex but keep Rex's D. That was probably baked into the extension they offered. Pettine said no to that and the organization i.e. woody turned on him. He's with the Bills now because he wouldn't push Rex under the bus.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:46 PM

i really dont understand this article. Pettine took bullets for Ryan? I dont see how. He turned down the extension. He got a job from under Ryan so he can prove he has the chops and is not some Ryan lackey.

This fvcking article is harder to follow than the movie inception. I think the bad guy is Johnson or is he not since he decided on killing careers during the draft? Rex is in trouble? Or is he not since he gets more out of players than they are worth? fml...


No cohesion to the story. Very confused. That said, I'm outraged.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

What's this gentleman's name Bit?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:51 PM

it's funny and he writes in a crazy fashion but the guy makes interesting posts about every NFL team not just the Jets.

my interpretation of that post is the Jets wanted to fire Rex but keep Rex's D. That was probably baked into the extension they offered. Pettine said no to that and the organization i.e. woody turned on him. He's with the Bills now because he wouldn't push Rex under the bus.

I think Pettine said no to the extension for selfish reasons. Money or recognition or both. I dont blame him but I dont think he is a hero jumping in front of bullets for Rex. Just my $0.02

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:51 PM

What's this gentleman's name Bit?


goes by GordonGekko on TFG board. Click on "find my content" he's got interesting blurbs about Marrone, the Panthers, KC etc.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

When we first heard Pettine turned down the extension, I suggested that he might've been waiting to learn Rex's fate before he signed so that he wouldn't be stuck in the job after Rex was fired. But this article takes it a step further, that they would've fired Rex if they had Pettine under contract, and that Woody presumably wouldn't extend him once he refused to go along with the plan.

And Pettine isn't telling the story, because if it were to become public Rex would resign in disgrace?

And this has Rex -what?- suicidal?

If the Jets truly refused to resign Pettine as some form of punishment, it's idiotic.

And Tannenbaum was fired for trading Stanton? That's kinda like convicting Al Capone for tax evasion.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:58 PM

So, allegedly the Jets had already decided prior to the season that they wanted to fire Rex and subsequently promote Pettine to HC? After Pettine declined, followed by the Jets having their worst season under Rex yet, that somehow changed Woody from wanting to fire Rex to then forcing him onto whoever is the new GM? That's quite the interesting theory.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

And Pettine isn't telling the story, because if it were to become public Rex would resign in disgrace?

And this has Rex -what?- suicidal?


just to be clear Im not saying this guy GG is 100% accurate. But the fact remains Pettine was the DC of the Jets and is now the DC of the Bills, because he never got another contract. He wasn't fired, he was just let go and the question of "why" is a good one.

these are certain aspects of the story that are probably hyperbole. He never said Rex was suicidal. I also think the drew stanton comment falls in that category. but the basic premise seems sound.

the timing of the extension offer to Pettine is key. The contract wasn't offered prior to the season and it wasn't offered on December 25th. Somewhere along the way (probably after the Revis/Holmes injuries) it became clear this would be a lost year. The extension was offered to Pettine who refused it based on loyalty to Rex. Pettine was jettisoned because his loyalty to rex was greater than his loyalty to his employer.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

What's interesting about this is that the Pettine-as-mole assault was a consciously planted tidbit, coordinated for maximum release. Francesa spent an entire show screaming about it and he gets all his info from owners these days--not that he talks to Woody, but somebody at that level obviously put that in Francesa's ear.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:23 PM

This is all very far flung.

If one of us posted this here, we would be grilling that person.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:30 PM

it's funny and he writes in a crazy fashion but the guy makes interesting posts about every NFL team not just the Jets.


It's not funny, crazy, interesting, or true. Do guys who aren't either already head coaches somewhere or retired turn down NFL head coaching jobs? Are you suggesting that this is something that ever actually happens? I mean, I could say that the Jets are going to be fine because next week Brady is going to get in over his head with some kind of political intrigue and shoot himself on the field, and that would be more plausible than your ludicrous claptrap because at least it happened one time in a movie.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

So, allegedly the Jets had already decided prior to the season that they wanted to fire Rex and subsequently promote Pettine to HC? After Pettine declined, followed by the Jets having their worst season under Rex yet, that somehow changed Woody from wanting to fire Rex to then forcing him onto whoever is the new GM? That's quite the interesting theory.


We did something like that once before. Remind me how that turned out again.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

It's not funny, crazy, interesting, or true.

more plausible than your ludicrous claptrap


hey man it might be crazy and false but it's interesting. Im just trying to shed some light on the Pettine/Rex situation. I'm not seeing alot of alternative theories from the peanut gallery. Too busy crying that Rex isn't fired or whatever. Something happened for Pettine to be let go, right?

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