77DRAFT Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 No way Floyd makes it to 20, he might make it to 19. It would be very interesting if Floyd and Lynch are on the board at 19. I'd be in favor of trading up to get Floyd, he is exactly what this team needs, and Rex Ryan knows that better Mac or Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 But is he EXACTLY what this team needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 But is he EXACTLY what this team needs? He is. The very thing lacking defensively last year was our rush defense against the quarterback. Floyd's fast enough and strong enough to be able to take the position to get more sacks for this team this year and for many years to come. That's why my mock draft has the Jets trading for the for the 16th pick overall. Yes I know it's going to cost us or one and a three this year but Leonard Floyd is worth it. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 The Jets and the Bills/Rex will become another Jets and the Patriots/Bellichick dynamic. The irony of the Bills picking one spot ahead of the Jets despite beating them twice is too much to process. But in any event, I think it worth something to trade up 2 spots to pick ahead of the Bills rather than live with the spectre of the player the Bills pick before the Jets pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Lloyd had 4.5 sacks last year and he is supposed to be our pass rusher? What is going to be so different in the NFL that will make this player even an average player. first, he is too small to play on running plays so he will only be on the field on obvious passing downs. so if we are going to take a player with this high of a bust potential, I would prefer it be a QB over a one down defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Like what I've seen of him ... Happy with him at 20 ... Not a chance in h*ll I trade up for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, BaumerJet said: He is. The very thing lacking defensively last year was our rush defense against the quarterback. Floyd's fast enough and strong enough to be able to take the position to get more sacks for this team this year and for many years to come. That's why my mock draft has the Jets trading for the for the 16th pick overall. Yes I know it's going to cost us or one and a three this year but Leonard Floyd is worth it. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk I see him as being strictly a pass-rushing specialist. That means he doesn't play all three downs. That means spending a first round pick on him, or worse yet, spending multiple picks to go get him seems too cost prohibitive. Love the good tape on him, especially the clips where he stretches out and drags down the tiny college QBs by laying out. But that sh*t don't fly in the NFL. Big Ben would laugh at his arm tackles, and RBs are going to run OVER him in this league. He's put on 20 pounds since college, and he is a terror coming off the edge. But those lean, bendy types are usually more miss-than-hit when it comes to playing with the big boys. I would rather trade back and get a player with a lightening fast first-step, like Eric Striker, in the 5th round... or a really good blitzing DB, like Karl Joseph in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I prefer Randall "Pink" Floyd. The QB we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 If he's there he's worth taking but I don't see us trading up for anything other than a QB. I think he'll be gone before 19 too and we just don't have the picks to justify it, even if we got one or two for Mo. This team needs some depth. He has a lot of question marks, for all his talent. I think there's better value to be had elsewhere (unless he does fall to 20). I really like Ogbah and would rather trade down or hope he falls to us in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 36 minutes ago, varjet said: The Jets and the Bills/Rex will become another Jets and the Patriots/Bellichick dynamic. The irony of the Bills picking one spot ahead of the Jets despite beating them twice is too much to process. But in any event, I think it worth something to trade up 2 spots to pick ahead of the Bills rather than live with the spectre of the player the Bills pick before the Jets pick. After 6 years of Rex drafting poorly are you really concerned with who the Bills take? I actually feel good about having them in front of us to take the bust The 7 first round picks under Rex; Sanchez, Wilson, Wilkerson, Coples, Milner, Richardson, Pryor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, Warfish said: I prefer Randall "Pink" Floyd. The QB we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Leonard "Aaron Maybin" Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 45 minutes ago, BaumerJet said: He is. The very thing lacking defensively last year was our rush defense against the quarterback. Floyd's fast enough and strong enough to be able to take the position to get more sacks for this team this year and for many years to come. That's why my mock draft has the Jets trading for the for the 16th pick overall. Yes I know it's going to cost us or one and a three this year but Leonard Floyd is worth it. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk If you feel that way you should be pulling for Spence. He's the best edge rusher in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 He seems to be moving up everybody's boards. Looks like he's going top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 holy crap he's tiny very scary pick to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Pcola said: Lloyd had 4.5 sacks last year and he is supposed to be our pass rusher? What is going to be so different in the NFL that will make this player even an average player. first, he is too small to play on running plays so he will only be on the field on obvious passing downs. so if we are going to take a player with this high of a bust potential, I would prefer it be a QB over a one down defender. Leonard Floyd is appealing to a number of teams , not because his ability to rush the passer( in time could be elite as he has explosive first step, but needs to develop more pass rushing moves) . But in his ability to match up in coverage. At 6'6 245 he is capable of matching up with the Te's and Rb's in coverage. That is a big thing in today's Nfl( passing league). Everyone looking for those coverage Lb's as much as those pass rushing lb's. Wouldn't surprise me if the Raiders had interest in Floyd for that reason. ( Bruce Irvin going to be used more rushing the passer, and need another cover lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Leonard Floyd is a younger version of Manny Lawson of the Bills. Ex Giant great Carl Banks loves Leonard Floyd as he thinks he's the best lb in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm not a fan of Floyd, and I'm praying we draft a pass rushing OLB. Isn't he like 220 lbs at 6'4"+ or something like that!?? Give me 6'2, 245+ at the position, please. hell get manhandled, IMO. I keep thinking Dion Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 23 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: Leonard Floyd is a younger version of Manny Lawson of the Bills. Ex Giant great Carl Banks loves Leonard Floyd as he thinks he's the best lb in this draft. Agree with Banks, he knows linebackers played with LT, who was my neighbor for years, he kinda reminds me of LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 18 minutes ago, Shadetree said: I'm not a fan of Floyd, and I'm praying we draft a pass rushing OLB. Hes like 220 lbs at 6'4"+ or something like that!?? Give me 6'2, 245+ at the position, please. hell get manhandled, IMO. I keep thinking Dion Jordan The fact is Leonard Floyd showed up at the combine at 6'6 246 ( official measurements). 39' vertical . Even though !eonard Floyd still needs work in his pass rush , he has that rare first step( consistently gets off the ball first - very Von Miller like in that regard). Leonard Floyd at Georgia line up a lot inside when ever they were in the nickel defense. In the NFL defenses are in the nickel 70 % of the time. Leonard Floyd is a young Manny Lawson , and you can use him in variety of roles.( pass rusher, and as coverage Lb). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 LT weighed 241 at 6 - 3. Floyd is going to be 6 -6 255 / 260. BEAST OF BURDEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 7 hours ago, 77DRAFT said: LT weighed 241 at 6 - 3. Floyd is going to be 6 -6 255 / 260. BEAST OF BURDEN Pro football Weekly said he doesn't have the frame to put on much more weight. I don't know, I've never met the guy but if we want a coverage LB, Bowles usually likes big safeties, which there are several in this draft and don't have to be taken at 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I would be surprised if he makes it past the Giants at 10. Heard they really like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Jarvis Jones 2.0 - the production in college = bust in the NFL. HUGE underachiever. He's small and cant shed blocks. He'll be an absolute liability in the run game and for someone who's supposed to be an edge rush specialist, he barely touched the QB in the college. Someone will love the way this kid looks on the practice field. He's a slick athlete, who's got moves and bend and everything you want in a pass rusher but when it comes down to it, he gets over powered and just lacks production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Rumors are Mingo Floyd could go top 5-10. Its not a surprise though as pass rushers are always over drafted. As Ive mentioned keep your eyes out for Noah Spence or Yannick Ngakour for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Pcola said: Pro football Weekly said he doesn't have the frame to put on much more weight. I don't know, I've never met the guy but if we want a coverage LB, Bowles usually likes big safeties, which there are several in this draft and don't have to be taken at 20. He's at 246 so 9 lbs isn't a lot to get to 255, who knows if they want him ? There are a couple of decent edge LB'sout there, and we need a dominant player at the position, probably have decent depth already, we've got a big S for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 4.5 sacks vs college talent? Please let this kid be drafted before 20 to push some better players down, others have already mentioned Maybin, Mingo, Jordan ect. Jets would get more 1st year production out of Ragland for gods sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 14 hours ago, 77DRAFT said: No way Floyd makes it to 20, he might make it to 19. It would be very interesting if Floyd and Lynch are on the board at 19. I'd be in favor of trading up to get Floyd, he is exactly what this team needs, and Rex Ryan knows that better Mac or Bowles. Jets don't have enough to offer to move up. They will stay where they are and pick the BPA period. I hope Noah Spence is there, but we all know that he is exactly the kind of guy Rex Ryan has been dreaming of since they took Quentin Coples, who was supposed to be that guy. I hope Floyd is there because the Bills GM will want the more polished guy and not the guy with 'character issues'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Pcola said: Pro football Weekly said he doesn't have the frame to put on much more weight. I don't know, I've never met the guy but if we want a coverage LB, Bowles usually likes big safeties, which there are several in this draft and don't have to be taken at 20. He's at 246 so 9 lbs isn't a lot to get to 255, who knows if they want him ? There are a couple of decent edge LB'sout there, and we need a dominant player at the position, probably have decent depth already, we've got a big S for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said: Jets don't have enough to offer to move up. They will stay where they are and pick the BPA period. I hope Noah Spence is there, but we all know that he is exactly the kind of guy Rex Ryan has been dreaming of since they took Quentin Coples, who was supposed to be that guy. I hope Floyd is there because the Bills GM will want the more polished guy and not the guy with 'character issues'. Would love Noah Spence as welll, happy to take the guy Rex passes on, he obviously can't really pick corners or OLBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 21 hours ago, 77DRAFT said: Agree with Banks, he knows linebackers played with LT, who was my neighbor for years, he kinda reminds me of LT. Did he ever rob you looking for some coke money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Leonard Floyd Highlights Dion Jordan Highlights. And Dion Jordan was actually bigger than Leonard Floyd. (Dion 6'6 275, Floyd 6'4 231). Floyd weighed 250 at the combine which is 20lbs more than the weight he played at, yet still 25 lbs less than Jordan's NFL weight. No. Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 35 minutes ago, ljr said: Did he ever rob you looking for some coke money? Money was never a problem for LT. Passed him every night while running in opposite directions, he knew I was a Jet fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, 77DRAFT said: Money was never a problem for LT. Passed him every night while running in opposite directions, he knew I was a Jet fan. Hhmmmm ... Hope he wasn't stopping off at your pad to say hi to the wife while the Jet fan neighbor was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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